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LMB · Nov 21st, 2004, 01:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

Back to speccing

I was playing around with the Golf GTi configurator. All the recent good press reports on the GTi got me thinking

I told you it'd be a cracking car.

I think the price is quite competitive. It's on par with the Mini.

CooperID · Nov 21st, 2004, 01:58 PM

Washy, Glad to hear things are looking better…

If you’re considering a high spec tin top with the works kit, I’d be tempted to speak to JCG, as when I spoke to them last week they mentioned that they were planning a special edition which came with all the JCW stuff (tuning kit, seats, wheels, suspension and brakes) for a price which was less that the total of each if the dealer was to fit them… very

and extremely elitist

CooperID · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

Back to speccing

I was playing around with the Golf GTi configurator. All the recent good press reports on the GTi got me thinking

Anyway they're far from cheap

Spec'd it up to over £26k for a similar spec to my Roxy

No way is that a "peoples" car price"

That's S2000 territory

I think I looked at a spec for one of those and It came to £25k without trying too hard... but I'll probably end up spending that on the mini, so probably competitive enough... although the review in CAR magazine did say that the JCW MCS was better

Martin L · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:05 PM

What you would all consider hieracy, I doubt I'll ever return to MINI

Yes a fully kitted 210JCW would be very nice but at around £25k it's far from good value for money IMHO.
A few more thousand and you're into decent roadster territory e.g. Z4, S2000

Martin L · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

I think the price is quite competitive. It's on par with the Mini.

That's the problem I think.
Both are too expensive for what they are

You can easily pick up a Clio 182 for much less then either.

£20-£25k for either a MINI of Golf is a bit rich for me

CooperID · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

What you would all consider hieracy, I doubt I'll ever return to MINI

Yes a fully kitted 210JCW would be very nice but at around £25k it's far from good value for money IMHO.
A few more thousand and you're into decent roadster territory e.g. Z4, S2000

I agree... especially when you look at resale... as all the options that take the JCW MCS up to 25k are probably not even considered when looking at the residual price... TBH I think it's hard to compare a fully fitted JCW to many other cars, especially at that price level. It's very much a specialist car and not at all main stream, unlike the new golf GTI which is a hot hatch for the masses. I know that if I actually fit the JCW kit and a few other bits, I'll be committing myself to keeping the car for quite a few years to try and get the 'value' out of it, as it certainly not a wise financial decision

I do sometimes wonder if I would have been better off, putting the money into a second hand boxster or lotus ellise/ exige, but when I look at total running costs and fun factor, I think the MCS is hard to beat!!

ABG · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL

The damage I'd say probably happened here - think I'll see if I can get a price on a new door.........

Ots the freezer side, but one of the LCDs is misbehaving too the top of the number 2 has disappeared................

If the door with the LCD is the one with the damage I'd call out the repair guy and see what happens. The bloke that did our icemaker didn't spend more than 2 minutes in deciding to replace the whole unit. You might find that it's easier for them to change door than the electronics.

Martin L · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID

I do sometimes wonder if I would have been better off, putting the money into a second hand boxster or lotus ellise/ exige, but when I look at total running costs and fun factor, I think the MCS is hard to beat!!

I've always looked into the possibility of running a MINI as a weekend car since I got rid of my last, as I just can't take the risk again of living with one on a day to day basis again

Then I thought if I get a weekend car why get a MINI

An Elise or a more specialist car would be far more fun....but then having two cars again would be daft

Hence my decision why run two cars, take the budget of two and get one quality car that does it all. Hence my plan to get a porsche boxster coupe in two years time

CooperID · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

I've always looked into the possibility of running a MINI as a weekend car since I got rid of my last, as I just can't take the risk again of living with one on a day to day basis again

Then I thought if I get a weekend car why get a MINI

An Elise or a more specialist car would be far more fun....but then having two cars again would be daft

Hence my decision why run two cars, take the budget of two and get one quality car that does it all. Hence my plan to get a porsche boxster coupe in two years time

Sounds like a good plan

... How much are those Boxster Coupes again???

For me at the moment, insurance is a big driver in the car choice, but that'll be changing next year when I move to Scotland, and even more so in 2006 when Sarah turns 30. We also need to have two cars and both semi-practical... so the mini is perfect at the moment... but I'd love a porker at some point... but then again, wouldn't everyone

Martin L · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:40 PM

I'm budgeting £40-45k at the moment

Thinking I can get away with around £35k if I don't go for an S. I really need to see if it's worth the additional £6k.

Personal circumstances could all change in two years time that could scupper this idea but at least for now it's a goal I've set

LMB · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

You can easily pick up a Clio 182 for much less then either.

Aye but the built quality isn't quite on par.

LMB · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

I've always looked into the possibility of running a MINI as a weekend car since I got rid of my last, as I just can't take the risk again of living with one on a day to day basis again

None of my Mini's have every missed a heart beat so I think you're safe.

Martin L · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

Aye but the built quality isn't quite on par.

Agreed, but I have don't have much faith in MINI quality anymore

Besides they just don't "do it for me". Ever since the suspension changes back in early 2003, the soul has been removed from the MINI

LMB · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

Agreed, but I have don't have much faith in MINI quality anymore

Sit in a Clio and you'll realise how good it is.

CooperID · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L

Besides they just don't "do it for me". Ever since the suspension changes back in early 2003, the soul has been removed from the MINI

Were they softened up that much???!!

CooperID · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

Sit in a Clio and you'll realise how good it is.

Tell me about it.... I have to every day!!!... albeit a 1.2 Grande

... really soft, but a decend run about.

LMB · Nov 21st, 2004, 02:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID

Were they softened up that much???!!

I think so - it took some getting used to.

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Sham the car ho, who is lurking in the far north	183	3.65%
Washy who's still on course to set a record for most MINIs owned !	231	4.61%
Soggy who shacked up with Rakey, then thought better of it	242	4.83%
Aiden, who's got litres & litres in the drive,	174	3.47%
Cat Eating Rakey - he who spec's best at the pub	187	3.73%
ABG , who has Mod Mania ! and Porsche fever	149	2.98%
MartinL, back in a MINI, still the official beanie-type	136	2.72%
Mo who's binning his Works and going even more elitist with a Cooper S LE	108	2.16%
jimskater, who had to make a choice between a GP & MTI.... so he's doing both.	32	0.64%
puck, who's pullied, painted, and wants a new job !	185	3.69%
Shane, who's years too late.... and gone far, far away	2	0.04%
mad brummie, who ate all of his alphabet soup and was left with a Zed	2015	40.24%
ONED, the diesel loving, Annie beating handyman !	198	3.95%
lavs, who needs to start Speccin' something soon	178	3.55%
pappillon , who looks very good in all black	232	4.63%
CooperID who wants some big stoppers !	139	2.78%
Wobert, who needs to do some last-minute Speccin.....	146	2.92%
Goonery, who is busy with very complicated recipies...	204	4.07%
Ruthie, who is constantly smiling whilst driving her Lippy Red S !	267	5.33%
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Nov 21st, 2004, 01:51 PM	#30081
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 23,664 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L Back to speccing I was playing around with the Golf GTi configurator. All the recent good press reports on the GTi got me thinking I told you it'd be a cracking car. I think the price is quite competitive. It's on par with the Mini. Global Moderator

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:05 PM	#30084 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	What you would all consider hieracy, I doubt I'll ever return to MINI Yes a fully kitted 210JCW would be very nice but at around £25k it's far from good value for money IMHO. A few more thousand and you're into decent roadster territory e.g. Z4, S2000 MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:10 PM	#30085 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB I think the price is quite competitive. It's on par with the Mini. That's the problem I think. Both are too expensive for what they are You can easily pick up a Clio 182 for much less then either. £20-£25k for either a MINI of Golf is a bit rich for me MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:22 PM	#30088 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID I do sometimes wonder if I would have been better off, putting the money into a second hand boxster or lotus ellise/ exige, but when I look at total running costs and fun factor, I think the MCS is hard to beat!! I've always looked into the possibility of running a MINI as a weekend car since I got rid of my last, as I just can't take the risk again of living with one on a day to day basis again Then I thought if I get a weekend car why get a MINI An Elise or a more specialist car would be far more fun....but then having two cars again would be daft Hence my decision why run two cars, take the budget of two and get one quality car that does it all. Hence my plan to get a porsche boxster coupe in two years time MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

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Nov 21st, 2004, 01:58 PM	#30082 (permalink)
CooperID ///M Power Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 5,096 Offline	Washy, Glad to hear things are looking better… If you’re considering a high spec tin top with the works kit, I’d be tempted to speak to JCG, as when I spoke to them last week they mentioned that they were planning a special edition which came with all the JCW stuff (tuning kit, seats, wheels, suspension and brakes) for a price which was less that the total of each if the dealer was to fit them… very and extremely elitist

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:01 PM	#30083 (permalink)
CooperID ///M Power Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 5,096 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L Back to speccing I was playing around with the Golf GTi configurator. All the recent good press reports on the GTi got me thinking Anyway they're far from cheap Spec'd it up to over £26k for a similar spec to my Roxy No way is that a "peoples" car price" That's S2000 territory I think I looked at a spec for one of those and It came to £25k without trying too hard... but I'll probably end up spending that on the mini, so probably competitive enough... although the review in CAR magazine did say that the JCW MCS was better

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:15 PM	#30086 (permalink)
CooperID ///M Power Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 5,096 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L What you would all consider hieracy, I doubt I'll ever return to MINI Yes a fully kitted 210JCW would be very nice but at around £25k it's far from good value for money IMHO. A few more thousand and you're into decent roadster territory e.g. Z4, S2000 I agree... especially when you look at resale... as all the options that take the JCW MCS up to 25k are probably not even considered when looking at the residual price... TBH I think it's hard to compare a fully fitted JCW to many other cars, especially at that price level. It's very much a specialist car and not at all main stream, unlike the new golf GTI which is a hot hatch for the masses. I know that if I actually fit the JCW kit and a few other bits, I'll be committing myself to keeping the car for quite a few years to try and get the 'value' out of it, as it certainly not a wise financial decision I do sometimes wonder if I would have been better off, putting the money into a second hand boxster or lotus ellise/ exige, but when I look at total running costs and fun factor, I think the MCS is hard to beat!!

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:19 PM	#30087 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 8,362 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AidenL The damage I'd say probably happened here - think I'll see if I can get a price on a new door......... Ots the freezer side, but one of the LCDs is misbehaving too the top of the number 2 has disappeared................ If the door with the LCD is the one with the damage I'd call out the repair guy and see what happens. The bloke that did our icemaker didn't spend more than 2 minutes in deciding to replace the whole unit. You might find that it's easier for them to change door than the electronics.

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:32 PM	#30089 (permalink)
CooperID ///M Power Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 5,096 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L I've always looked into the possibility of running a MINI as a weekend car since I got rid of my last, as I just can't take the risk again of living with one on a day to day basis again Then I thought if I get a weekend car why get a MINI An Elise or a more specialist car would be far more fun....but then having two cars again would be daft Hence my decision why run two cars, take the budget of two and get one quality car that does it all. Hence my plan to get a porsche boxster coupe in two years time Sounds like a good plan ... How much are those Boxster Coupes again??? For me at the moment, insurance is a big driver in the car choice, but that'll be changing next year when I move to Scotland, and even more so in 2006 when Sarah turns 30. We also need to have two cars and both semi-practical... so the mini is perfect at the moment... but I'd love a porker at some point... but then again, wouldn't everyone

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:40 PM	#30090 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	I'm budgeting £40-45k at the moment Thinking I can get away with around £35k if I don't go for an S. I really need to see if it's worth the additional £6k. Personal circumstances could all change in two years time that could scupper this idea but at least for now it's a goal I've set MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:41 PM	#30091 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 23,664 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L You can easily pick up a Clio 182 for much less then either. Aye but the built quality isn't quite on par. Global Moderator

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:44 PM	#30092 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 23,664 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L I've always looked into the possibility of running a MINI as a weekend car since I got rid of my last, as I just can't take the risk again of living with one on a day to day basis again None of my Mini's have every missed a heart beat so I think you're safe. Global Moderator

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:45 PM	#30093 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB Aye but the built quality isn't quite on par. Agreed, but I have don't have much faith in MINI quality anymore Besides they just don't "do it for me". Ever since the suspension changes back in early 2003, the soul has been removed from the MINI MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:48 PM	#30094 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 23,664 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L Agreed, but I have don't have much faith in MINI quality anymore Sit in a Clio and you'll realise how good it is. Global Moderator

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:49 PM	#30095 (permalink)
CooperID ///M Power Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 5,096 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L Besides they just don't "do it for me". Ever since the suspension changes back in early 2003, the soul has been removed from the MINI Were they softened up that much???!!

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:50 PM	#30096 (permalink)
CooperID ///M Power Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 5,096 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB Sit in a Clio and you'll realise how good it is. Tell me about it.... I have to every day!!!... albeit a 1.2 Grande ... really soft, but a decend run about.

Nov 21st, 2004, 02:54 PM	#30097 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 23,664 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID Were they softened up that much???!! I think so - it took some getting used to. Global Moderator