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Wobert · May 21st, 2008, 07:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey (original)

Wobert, I had a cooper clubman for 2 days whilst the 1er was in, and I liked it, boot far more userable than the R53's and the rear doors were just cool

If I was in the market for another car I'd look at the clubman

what do you guys think... http://www.mini2.com/forum/faults-fi...g-air-con.html

Is this on your MCS or 1er?

Do you run the a/c on 100% of the time.

If you don't I'd hazard a guess that it's trapped condensation in the heating ducts. If there is sufficient water the a/c cannot de-humidify it quickly enough, and when it does the water will vapourise. All of this would be irrespective of the setting that the heater was set on.

Best solution is just to leave it on all the time.

HTH

Robert

Washy · May 21st, 2008, 07:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Wobert (original)

What's the general consensus on the Clubman MCS?

I've seen a few ex-Thorne cars on MINI Cherished that are reasonably specc'd and low mileage for the right kind of money.

The downside is they seem to have taken a bigger hit depreciation-wise than the equivilent 2dr cars.

My gut feeling is that they are a proper "niche" car and and such may be harder to sell on later.

Practicality-wise one would offer a bit more room, passenger & boot wise, so may end being of more use than a std 2 dr MCS.

Any thoughts?

Not driven a Clubman MCS, but have had a Cooper version for the day. I thought it was ok, but interestingly all of my work colleagues without exception thought it was awful. So I wonder if it is a bit of a Marmite car...

Having said the above I am tempted to get a factory works clubman just to have something a bit different...

mad brummie · May 21st, 2008, 07:06 PM

but that ruins fuel consumption and power, the a/c that is.......

mad brummie · May 21st, 2008, 07:08 PM

i fancy a lowish spec Clubman next........ i'd probably go for an MCS tho as the fuel consumption isn't too bad on them is it?

Martin L · May 21st, 2008, 07:11 PM

Utd 1-0

Not watching the footie Brummie???
This time last year we were in Cork.....

CooperID · May 21st, 2008, 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

We were messed about something by the Abbey (who were the best rate), they could (and SHOULD) have told us three weeks before they did that Abi didn't meet their lending criteria...

Never liked them since I worked there anyway!

Good news Paul... Had some bother with the Abbey at the beginning of the year and ended up getting a good deal with the Ulster Bank (Owned by RBS) - 0.26% above BoE base rate with no fees or tie ins

I'll never go back

Washy · May 21st, 2008, 07:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original)

i fancy a lowish spec Clubman next........ i'd probably go for an MCS tho as the fuel consumption isn't too bad on them is it?

Driven sensibly the fuel consumption on the MCS is pretty good....obviously if you have some fun it drops off a bit, but it is nowhere near as low as the old MCS all IMHO of course...

Pobsey · May 21st, 2008, 07:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Wobert (original)

Is this on your MCS or 1er?

Do you run the a/c on 100% of the time.

If you don't I'd hazard a guess that it's trapped condensation in the heating ducts. If there is sufficient water the a/c cannot de-humidify it quickly enough, and when it does the water will vapourise. All of this would be irrespective of the setting that the heater was set on.

Best solution is just to leave it on all the time.

HTH

Robert

MCS, auto aircon on all the time, had another search, fingers are pointing at the heater matrix, going to check the car now, BRB!

Washy · May 21st, 2008, 07:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID (original)

Good news Paul... Had some bother with the Abbey at the beginning of the year and ended up getting a good deal with the Ulster Bank (Owned by RBS) - 0.26% above BoE base rate with no fees or tie ins

I'll never go back

We had some bother with the Abbey too.....and moved to Nationwide about 3 years ago...

mad brummie · May 21st, 2008, 07:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

Utd 1-0

Not watching the footie Brummie???
This time last year we were in Cork.....

I am, sat here with it on. I want both to lose tho!

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

Driven sensibly the fuel consumption on the MCS is pretty good....obviously if you have some fun it drops off a bit, but it is nowhere near as low as the old MCS all IMHO of course...

Thats what i'm thinking. The Dooper doesn't do it for me really, wanna stick with petrol. Want at least another 12-18 months with the Z4 first tho and then who knows what will be out there to tempt me!!!

Martin L · May 21st, 2008, 07:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID (original)

Good news Paul... Had some bother with the Abbey at the beginning of the year and ended up getting a good deal with the Ulster Bank (Owned by RBS) - 0.26% above BoE base rate with no fees or tie ins

I'll never go back

That's a great rate you got there.
I'm in the market for a new mortgage and the best out there at the moment is Barclays with 0.74% above base

mad brummie · May 21st, 2008, 07:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey (original)

MCS, auto aircon on all the time, had another search, fingers are pointing at the heater matrix, going to check the car now, BRB!

Have a word with Wincakes, she had a similar issue with her MCS

Wobert · May 21st, 2008, 07:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original)

i fancy a lowish spec Clubman next........ i'd probably go for an MCS tho as the fuel consumption isn't too bad on them is it?

Must admit until today, I'd not considered one, perhaps I need to borrow one for a day and see what I think.

Wobert · May 21st, 2008, 07:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original)

I am, sat here with it on. I want both to lose tho!

Thats what i'm thinking. The Dooper doesn't do it for me really, wanna stick with petrol. Want at least another 12-18 months with the Z4 first tho and then who knows what will be out there to tempt me!!!

Have to say I was most disappointed with the Dooper I had for 24hrs. I was a lot more impressed with the MCS I then drove afterwards.

Looks like I'd better wander down to Central sometime to take a look-see......

Martin L · May 21st, 2008, 07:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original)

Want at least another 12-18 months with the Z4 first tho and then who knows what will be out there to tempt me!!!

500 arbath
That is SO on my radar.

Followed a normal 500 with the chrome pack. It looks like a slim MINI from there rear. Chrome detailing is way too similar to the MINI....

CooperID · May 21st, 2008, 07:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

That's a great rate you got there.
I'm in the market for a new mortgage and the best out there at the moment is Barclays with 0.74% above base

It means I have to pay a £10/month fee for there special current account, but it pays for itself many times over. It was by far the best I could find at the time and they got everything transfered in less than 2 weeks

plus they paid all my fees

Abbey were going to take longer just to move onto a different product

Have a look at RBS with royalties gold current account... should be very similar

EDIT: just had a quick look and seems they changed things again

mad brummie · May 21st, 2008, 07:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original)

500 arbath
That is SO on my radar.

Followed a normal 500 with the chrome pack. It looks like a slim MINI from there rear. Chrome detailing is way too similar to the MINI....

I'm interested but they need to lower the drivers seat before its an option for me

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May 21st, 2008, 07:06 PM	#76982 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 18,320 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Wobert (original) What's the general consensus on the Clubman MCS? I've seen a few ex-Thorne cars on MINI Cherished that are reasonably specc'd and low mileage for the right kind of money. The downside is they seem to have taken a bigger hit depreciation-wise than the equivilent 2dr cars. My gut feeling is that they are a proper "niche" car and and such may be harder to sell on later. Practicality-wise one would offer a bit more room, passenger & boot wise, so may end being of more use than a std 2 dr MCS. Any thoughts? Not driven a Clubman MCS, but have had a Cooper version for the day. I thought it was ok, but interestingly all of my work colleagues without exception thought it was awful. So I wonder if it is a bit of a Marmite car... Having said the above I am tempted to get a factory works clubman just to have something a bit different... Black to the future....

May 21st, 2008, 07:11 PM	#76985 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 13,600 Offline	Utd 1-0 Not watching the footie Brummie??? This time last year we were in Cork..... MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

May 21st, 2008, 07:13 PM	#76987 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 18,320 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original) i fancy a lowish spec Clubman next........ i'd probably go for an MCS tho as the fuel consumption isn't too bad on them is it? Driven sensibly the fuel consumption on the MCS is pretty good....obviously if you have some fun it drops off a bit, but it is nowhere near as low as the old MCS all IMHO of course... Black to the future....

May 21st, 2008, 07:17 PM	#76989 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 18,320 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID (original) Good news Paul... Had some bother with the Abbey at the beginning of the year and ended up getting a good deal with the Ulster Bank (Owned by RBS) - 0.26% above BoE base rate with no fees or tie ins I'll never go back We had some bother with the Abbey too.....and moved to Nationwide about 3 years ago... Black to the future....

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May 21st, 2008, 07:01 PM	#76981
Wobert Mr 120d Sport Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chester, UK Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 4,678 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey (original) Wobert, I had a cooper clubman for 2 days whilst the 1er was in, and I liked it, boot far more userable than the R53's and the rear doors were just cool If I was in the market for another car I'd look at the clubman what do you guys think... http://www.mini2.com/forum/faults-fi...g-air-con.html Is this on your MCS or 1er? Do you run the a/c on 100% of the time. If you don't I'd hazard a guess that it's trapped condensation in the heating ducts. If there is sufficient water the a/c cannot de-humidify it quickly enough, and when it does the water will vapourise. All of this would be irrespective of the setting that the heater was set on. Best solution is just to leave it on all the time. HTH Robert

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May 21st, 2008, 07:06 PM	#76983 (permalink)
mad brummie I Just Can't Get Enough Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: end of the alphabet Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 48,483 Online	but that ruins fuel consumption and power, the a/c that is.......

May 21st, 2008, 07:08 PM	#76984 (permalink)
mad brummie I Just Can't Get Enough Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: end of the alphabet Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 48,483 Online	i fancy a lowish spec Clubman next........ i'd probably go for an MCS tho as the fuel consumption isn't too bad on them is it?

May 21st, 2008, 07:12 PM	#76986 (permalink)
CooperID JCW GP Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 5,080 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original) We were messed about something by the Abbey (who were the best rate), they could (and SHOULD) have told us three weeks before they did that Abi didn't meet their lending criteria... Never liked them since I worked there anyway! Good news Paul... Had some bother with the Abbey at the beginning of the year and ended up getting a good deal with the Ulster Bank (Owned by RBS) - 0.26% above BoE base rate with no fees or tie ins I'll never go back

May 21st, 2008, 07:13 PM	#76988 (permalink)
Pobsey The de Chromed MINI My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Staffordshire Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 3,162 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Wobert (original) Is this on your MCS or 1er? Do you run the a/c on 100% of the time. If you don't I'd hazard a guess that it's trapped condensation in the heating ducts. If there is sufficient water the a/c cannot de-humidify it quickly enough, and when it does the water will vapourise. All of this would be irrespective of the setting that the heater was set on. Best solution is just to leave it on all the time. HTH Robert MCS, auto aircon on all the time, had another search, fingers are pointing at the heater matrix, going to check the car now, BRB!

May 21st, 2008, 07:19 PM	#76990 (permalink)
mad brummie I Just Can't Get Enough Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: end of the alphabet Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 48,483 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original) Utd 1-0 Not watching the footie Brummie??? This time last year we were in Cork..... I am, sat here with it on. I want both to lose tho! Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) Driven sensibly the fuel consumption on the MCS is pretty good....obviously if you have some fun it drops off a bit, but it is nowhere near as low as the old MCS all IMHO of course... Thats what i'm thinking. The Dooper doesn't do it for me really, wanna stick with petrol. Want at least another 12-18 months with the Z4 first tho and then who knows what will be out there to tempt me!!!

May 21st, 2008, 07:20 PM	#76991 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 13,600 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CooperID (original) Good news Paul... Had some bother with the Abbey at the beginning of the year and ended up getting a good deal with the Ulster Bank (Owned by RBS) - 0.26% above BoE base rate with no fees or tie ins I'll never go back That's a great rate you got there. I'm in the market for a new mortgage and the best out there at the moment is Barclays with 0.74% above base MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

May 21st, 2008, 07:20 PM	#76992 (permalink)
mad brummie I Just Can't Get Enough Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: end of the alphabet Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 48,483 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Pobsey (original) MCS, auto aircon on all the time, had another search, fingers are pointing at the heater matrix, going to check the car now, BRB! Have a word with Wincakes, she had a similar issue with her MCS

May 21st, 2008, 07:21 PM	#76993 (permalink)
Wobert Mr 120d Sport Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chester, UK Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 4,678 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original) i fancy a lowish spec Clubman next........ i'd probably go for an MCS tho as the fuel consumption isn't too bad on them is it? Must admit until today, I'd not considered one, perhaps I need to borrow one for a day and see what I think.

May 21st, 2008, 07:24 PM	#76994 (permalink)
Wobert Mr 120d Sport Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chester, UK Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 4,678 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original) I am, sat here with it on. I want both to lose tho! Thats what i'm thinking. The Dooper doesn't do it for me really, wanna stick with petrol. Want at least another 12-18 months with the Z4 first tho and then who knows what will be out there to tempt me!!! Have to say I was most disappointed with the Dooper I had for 24hrs. I was a lot more impressed with the MCS I then drove afterwards. Looks like I'd better wander down to Central sometime to take a look-see......

May 21st, 2008, 07:26 PM	#76995 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 13,600 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by mad brummie (original) Want at least another 12-18 months with the Z4 first tho and then who knows what will be out there to tempt me!!! 500 arbath That is SO on my radar. Followed a normal 500 with the chrome pack. It looks like a slim MINI from there rear. Chrome detailing is way too similar to the MINI.... MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

May 21st, 2008, 07:26 PM	#76996 (permalink)
CooperID JCW GP Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the move.... Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 5,080 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original) That's a great rate you got there. I'm in the market for a new mortgage and the best out there at the moment is Barclays with 0.74% above base It means I have to pay a £10/month fee for there special current account, but it pays for itself many times over. It was by far the best I could find at the time and they got everything transfered in less than 2 weeks plus they paid all my fees Abbey were going to take longer just to move onto a different product Have a look at RBS with royalties gold current account... should be very similar EDIT: just had a quick look and seems they changed things again

May 21st, 2008, 07:28 PM	#76997 (permalink)
mad brummie I Just Can't Get Enough Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: end of the alphabet Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 48,483 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin L (original) 500 arbath That is SO on my radar. Followed a normal 500 with the chrome pack. It looks like a slim MINI from there rear. Chrome detailing is way too similar to the MINI.... I'm interested but they need to lower the drivers seat before its an option for me

May 21st, 2008, 07:34 PM	#76998 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 09:55 AM Posts: 13,600 Offline