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Mutts · Jan 23rd, 2002, 04:01 AM

Looking at all the different specs and prizes quoted for the MINI COOPER S, I was just wondering if we could get one thread to put it all together. Therefore I request all of you out there to help me with the following:
Please state the standard spec of the Cooper S in your country (i.e. Suspension Plus, Sport Seats, Cloth/leather, Alarm, WAVE radio, 16" X-spoke alloys, etc.). Also include the price (including and/or excluding tax) of that standard spec. Please also state the country you are giving the spec for.
Reason I ask is that there is a lot of discussion going on in Holland regarding the price vs. the spec. The dealers claim that our spec will be better then others in Europe (see below) but our price is higher as well. Partly this is due to taxes in Holland being high, so (or at least they claim) prices excluding tax are kept low here. I'm not so sure this is true for the S, given all the information quoted here on Mini2. To confront my dealer with this, your help / information is highly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,
Mutts.

Here is an example:

Holland:
Price (including tax): 27.200 EUR
Price (excluding tax): unknown

Standard Spec:
Sport Seats
Sport Suspension Plus
Cloth/Leather interior (not 100% sure)
Manual Airco
Tacho on Steering column
Board Computer
ASC+T
Fog lights
16" X-spoke WHITE alloys

Not included:
Radio WAVE
Alarm
Additional Airbags

I think that's about it, did I miss anything OnlyS4me?

Paul · Jan 23rd, 2002, 04:51 AM

That is one of the things I am currently working on for the new layout tech section, internation specs and comparisons etc.

Basil · Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:32 AM

The full Australian spec should be available VERY shortly. Price is fixed, and a basic minimum specification we/you already know about.

I'm sure either myself, or one of the other members in oz will forward details to you as as soon as we get them.

Better fight it out between yourselves and let us know whether MUTTS or Paul or MINIAC get's it. (The oz spec that is)

Maybe to be fair we'll throw it to the wind......

Mutts · Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil
The full Australian spec should be available VERY shortly. Price is fixed, and a basic minimum specification we/you already know about.

...

Doesn't anybody find it extremely weird, to say the least, that the base price is already fixed, but no one at BMW can tell us what we get for that...???

Basil · Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutts

Doesn't anybody find it extremely weird, to say the least, that the base price is already fixed, but no one at BMW can tell us what we get for that...???

We know what we get mutts, but it's a minimum spec to get our $1000 deposits.

Six Airbags
16" Alloys W/- Run flats & Compressor
Cloth/Leather Sports Seats
Central Tacho / Column mounted speedo
Air-conditioning
ABS
Traction Control
SS+
Front Foglights
Air conditioned glovebox
On board Computer
Car/key memory

It's the options & their prices we don't know about yet and whether we may get CC air as standard.

More news soon............ (don't hold your breath though)

oops......should have said. All for $39,990AU + options and on road costs. A base Cooper S drives away for $42,958.00AU

BMW Australia charge a wooping $1,650AU for Delivery
Stamp duty on RRP = $800 AU
Registration is $518AU

Mutts · Jan 23rd, 2002, 06:53 AM

Thanks Basil,

this is exactly what I mean.
Here no one has heard of the glovebox yet... so I just wonder why the US and Australia get one and we are out of the loop (can't even get it as an option...)

I forgot the extra costs:
Registration: 41.52 EUR
Delivery: 485 EUR
Environmental costs: 45 EUR (in Dutch: verwijderingsbijdrage)

All these are for the ONE and COOPER, I haven't seen any official price slide for the S, but I assume they are all equal...

MacCooper · Jan 23rd, 2002, 08:12 AM

Hi Mutts,
this is the standard spec. in Germany:

Sport Seats
Sport Suspension Plus (optional without add. fee)
Cloth interior "satelite"
ASC+T
16" X-spoke alloys
4 Airbags

Price including tax 19.800€

Markus

MINIAC · Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:55 PM

See updated comparison of 'S' specs and pricing further down in thread

Basil · Jan 23rd, 2002, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MINIAC
See updated comparison of 'S' specs and pricing further down in thread.

Just a little update having seen what you have started above MINIAC. Oz cars will also have the following as standard:

5-star 16" Alloys
Front Fog lights
Leather Steering wheel
Alloy Patina dash
Boost CD (only 4 speakers we think)
On Board Computer
Head Air bags

cheers

rich · Jan 24th, 2002, 01:18 AM

Miniac - Your table of options is great

On the Aus list, everything you have as a "?" can be replaced with an "O", with the following exceptions:

Seats
- Ht adj (driver) S
- Ht adj (passenger) ?
- Heated ?
- Leatherette ?
- Cloth ?

SW and Trim
- Wood ?

Aircon Manual S

Rain-sensing wipers ?
Auto-dimming mirror ?
Heated windshield ?
Heated washer jets
+ wing mirrors ?

Stowage Pack S

Roof decal (not listed) is an "O".
You may want to put warranty terms in there somewhere too...
Aus is 2 yr unlimited + 2 yr Roadside

To the best of my knowledge that's the current score, as advised by dealer in lieu of official final spec

Goodonya!

Mutts · Jan 24th, 2002, 02:58 AM

MINIAC,

THANK YOUOUOUOUOU

This is great, if you don't mind, I would like to edit your post with all the specs to update some of the ? in the Dutch colomn.

Thanks everybody, you are a great help. I wouldn't know what to do without the internet...

MacCooper · Jan 24th, 2002, 05:24 AM

See update for Germany further down in thread.

cheers

markus

Mutts · Jan 24th, 2002, 05:47 AM

See update for Netherlands further down in thread.

This is bl**dy briljant, THANKS everyone

Basil · Jan 24th, 2002, 05:57 AM

Yes Mutt's, your right. It's an incredibly simple way of getting the specs across the world, and saves you and MINIAC and Paul a considerable amount of initial leg work.....

Well done.

Viscount Charles · Jan 24th, 2002, 11:46 AM

See update for UK further down in thread.

Viscount Charles · Jan 24th, 2002, 02:19 PM

Sorry, should have said something about pricing:

GB base Cooper S (ASC, 16" wheels, alarm, radio WAVE, cloth seats)
23,500 euros on the road (£14,500)

Can I move to America please? I'll settle for Australia if I have to. Both are getting more car for about the same amount of money

Basil · Jan 25th, 2002, 02:46 AM

Told my dealer to put the pressure on BMW Australia for full specs and prices which we were told would be available at the end of January, which is fast approaching.

That table is excellent MINIAC, well done.

minicoopersgirl · Jan 25th, 2002, 11:44 AM

Nice table MINIAC!! Thanks

Mini Chopo "S" · Jan 25th, 2002, 05:02 PM

hey amigos, here in th USA go to MINI USA.com my "S" will go for $22,900 with both Premium and sport pkg and the stereo sytm included. good luck with ur vehicles

Basil · Jan 25th, 2002, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mini Chopo "S"
hey amigos, here in th USA go to MINI USA.com my "S" will go for $22,900 with both Premium and sport pkg and the stereo sytm included. good luck with ur vehicles

You lucky B*****d's...... thats about $44,900AU.

Good grief. Thats just a tiny bit more than a bog standard oz spec S on the road......

You guys have got yourselves a bargain......

Jan 23rd, 2002, 04:01 AM	#1
Mutts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 78 Offline	Cooper S Spec & Price Comparison Looking at all the different specs and prizes quoted for the MINI COOPER S, I was just wondering if we could get one thread to put it all together. Therefore I request all of you out there to help me with the following: Please state the standard spec of the Cooper S in your country (i.e. Suspension Plus, Sport Seats, Cloth/leather, Alarm, WAVE radio, 16" X-spoke alloys, etc.). Also include the price (including and/or excluding tax) of that standard spec. Please also state the country you are giving the spec for. Reason I ask is that there is a lot of discussion going on in Holland regarding the price vs. the spec. The dealers claim that our spec will be better then others in Europe (see below) but our price is higher as well. Partly this is due to taxes in Holland being high, so (or at least they claim) prices excluding tax are kept low here. I'm not so sure this is true for the S, given all the information quoted here on Mini2. To confront my dealer with this, your help / information is highly appreciated. Thanks and Regards, Mutts. Here is an example: Holland: Price (including tax): 27.200 EUR Price (excluding tax): unknown Standard Spec: Sport Seats Sport Suspension Plus Cloth/Leather interior (not 100% sure) Manual Airco Tacho on Steering column Board Computer ASC+T Fog lights 16" X-spoke WHITE alloys Not included: Radio WAVE Alarm Additional Airbags I think that's about it, did I miss anything OnlyS4me? Mutts goes nutts

Jan 23rd, 2002, 04:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 41,268 Online	That is one of the things I am currently working on for the new layout tech section, internation specs and comparisons etc. There aint no party like my nana's tea party

Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	The full Australian spec should be available VERY shortly. Price is fixed, and a basic minimum specification we/you already know about. I'm sure either myself, or one of the other members in oz will forward details to you as as soon as we get them. Better fight it out between yourselves and let us know whether MUTTS or Paul or MINIAC get's it. (The oz spec that is) Maybe to be fair we'll throw it to the wind...... Last edited by Basil : Jan 24th, 2002 at 05:32 AM.

Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mutts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 78 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Basil The full Australian spec should be available VERY shortly. Price is fixed, and a basic minimum specification we/you already know about. ... Doesn't anybody find it extremely weird, to say the least, that the base price is already fixed, but no one at BMW can tell us what we get for that...??? Mutts goes nutts

Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Mutts Doesn't anybody find it extremely weird, to say the least, that the base price is already fixed, but no one at BMW can tell us what we get for that...??? We know what we get mutts, but it's a minimum spec to get our $1000 deposits. Six Airbags 16" Alloys W/- Run flats & Compressor Cloth/Leather Sports Seats Central Tacho / Column mounted speedo Air-conditioning ABS Traction Control SS+ Front Foglights Air conditioned glovebox On board Computer Car/key memory It's the options & their prices we don't know about yet and whether we may get CC air as standard. More news soon............ (don't hold your breath though) oops......should have said. All for $39,990AU + options and on road costs. A base Cooper S drives away for $42,958.00AU BMW Australia charge a wooping $1,650AU for Delivery Stamp duty on RRP = $800 AU Registration is $518AU Last edited by Basil : Jan 23rd, 2002 at 05:59 AM.

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Jan 23rd, 2002, 06:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mutts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 78 Offline	Thanks Basil, this is exactly what I mean. Here no one has heard of the glovebox yet... so I just wonder why the US and Australia get one and we are out of the loop (can't even get it as an option...) I forgot the extra costs: Registration: 41.52 EUR Delivery: 485 EUR Environmental costs: 45 EUR (in Dutch: verwijderingsbijdrage) All these are for the ONE and COOPER, I haven't seen any official price slide for the S, but I assume they are all equal... Mutts goes nutts

Jan 23rd, 2002, 08:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
MacCooper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamburg Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 16 Offline	Hi Mutts, this is the standard spec. in Germany: Sport Seats Sport Suspension Plus (optional without add. fee) Cloth interior "satelite" ASC+T 16" X-spoke alloys 4 Airbags Price including tax 19.800€ Markus

Jan 23rd, 2002, 05:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 8,707 Offline	See updated comparison of 'S' specs and pricing further down in thread

Jan 23rd, 2002, 09:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by MINIAC See updated comparison of 'S' specs and pricing further down in thread. Just a little update having seen what you have started above MINIAC. Oz cars will also have the following as standard: 5-star 16" Alloys Front Fog lights Leather Steering wheel Alloy Patina dash Boost CD (only 4 speakers we think) On Board Computer Head Air bags cheers

Jan 24th, 2002, 01:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 1,586 Offline	Miniac - Your table of options is great On the Aus list, everything you have as a "?" can be replaced with an "O", with the following exceptions: Seats - Ht adj (driver) S - Ht adj (passenger) ? - Heated ? - Leatherette ? - Cloth ? SW and Trim - Wood ? Aircon Manual S Rain-sensing wipers ? Auto-dimming mirror ? Heated windshield ? Heated washer jets + wing mirrors ? Stowage Pack S Roof decal (not listed) is an "O". You may want to put warranty terms in there somewhere too... Aus is 2 yr unlimited + 2 yr Roadside To the best of my knowledge that's the current score, as advised by dealer in lieu of official final spec Goodonya!

Jan 24th, 2002, 02:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mutts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 78 Offline	MINIAC, THANK YOUOUOUOUOU This is great, if you don't mind, I would like to edit your post with all the specs to update some of the ? in the Dutch colomn. Thanks everybody, you are a great help. I wouldn't know what to do without the internet... Mutts goes nutts

Jan 24th, 2002, 05:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
MacCooper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamburg Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 16 Offline	See update for Germany further down in thread. cheers markus

Jan 24th, 2002, 05:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mutts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam Local Time: 02:09 PM Posts: 78 Offline	See update for Netherlands further down in thread. This is bl**dy briljant, THANKS everyone Mutts goes nutts

Jan 24th, 2002, 05:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Yes Mutt's, your right. It's an incredibly simple way of getting the specs across the world, and saves you and MINIAC and Paul a considerable amount of initial leg work..... Well done.

Jan 24th, 2002, 11:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
Viscount Charles MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 449 Offline	See update for UK further down in thread. Ordered my "S" August '01. Arrived July '02. EB with white roof, wheels and stripes, Chili pack, DSC and climate control. Hate those 17" runflats though. Can now be seen all over the West Midlands, as a blue blur passing everything at speed

Jan 24th, 2002, 02:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
Viscount Charles MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 01:09 PM Posts: 449 Offline	Sorry, should have said something about pricing: GB base Cooper S (ASC, 16" wheels, alarm, radio WAVE, cloth seats) 23,500 euros on the road (£14,500) Can I move to America please? I'll settle for Australia if I have to. Both are getting more car for about the same amount of money Ordered my "S" August '01. Arrived July '02. EB with white roof, wheels and stripes, Chili pack, DSC and climate control. Hate those 17" runflats though. Can now be seen all over the West Midlands, as a blue blur passing everything at speed

Jan 25th, 2002, 02:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Told my dealer to put the pressure on BMW Australia for full specs and prices which we were told would be available at the end of January, which is fast approaching. That table is excellent MINIAC, well done.

Jan 25th, 2002, 11:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
minicoopersgirl Loves MINI2 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Melbourne, FL Local Time: 09:09 AM Posts: 856 Offline	Nice table MINIAC!! Thanks

Jan 25th, 2002, 05:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mini Chopo "S" MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Jacksonville, Florid Local Time: 08:09 AM Posts: 126 Offline	hey amigos, here in th USA go to MINI USA.com my "S" will go for $22,900 with both Premium and sport pkg and the stereo sytm included. good luck with ur vehicles

Jan 25th, 2002, 05:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 11:09 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Mini Chopo "S" hey amigos, here in th USA go to MINI USA.com my "S" will go for $22,900 with both Premium and sport pkg and the stereo sytm included. good luck with ur vehicles You lucky B*****d's...... thats about $44,900AU. Good grief. Thats just a tiny bit more than a bog standard oz spec S on the road...... You guys have got yourselves a bargain......

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