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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 09:52 AM   #1
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next time I would choose a Cooper not MCS

currently running arround in the dealers base cooper - it doesnt have any extra options.
the only things I would add would be a/c and sport seats plus leather steering wheel.

I have been in the car a week and have to say I am very impressed & am even beginning to be swayed towards the cooper, its equally as fun as my MCS (although i do miss the supacharger whine!) far better on fuel, I prefer the gear box, although i do keep crunching reverse when looking for 6th!

Yep me thinks I might now be in the market for specced MC for £10k!
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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 10:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski
Yep me thinks I might now be in the market for specced MC for £10k!

Do you think you'll find one for that? Don't think I've seen any on Autotrader etc for as little as that.

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 10:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Makes sense financially, but in all honesty I've fallen in love with the supercharger whine


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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 11:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski
currently running arround in the dealers base cooper - it doesnt have any extra options.
the only things I would add would be a/c and sport seats plus leather steering wheel.

I have been in the car a week and have to say I am very impressed & am even beginning to be swayed towards the cooper, its equally as fun as my MCS (although i do miss the supacharger whine!) far better on fuel, I prefer the gear box, although i do keep crunching reverse when looking for 6th!

Yep me thinks I might now be in the market for specced MC for £10k!

Hi Bob

I have a Cooper and just had a Cooper S on loan for the weekend, When I got back in my Cooper I realised how good it really is I will not be rushing out to get an S, it may be quicker but it does not mean its better Coopers here come with a/c, sports seats and a leather wheel along with 16's, everyone orders them so they made it standard.

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 12:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It's a strange thing, but there is something about the Cooper that just doesn't exist in the S. I only had my Cooper for 8 months, but I still miss it.
One of the reasons I went for the JCW conversion on my S was the fact I always felt a little disappointed with the standard S. Yes it is quicker, but not that much in the real world and it just never seemed to be as much fun.
My other half is getting a convertible...and you have guessed it she is having a Cooper


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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 12:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have a MCS on order but there is something I did really like about the MC. The gearbox is by far smoother in the MC and I liked the way that although the acceleration was slower it had a real rapidness above 4,500rpm. I must admit I couldn't really tell much difference in the harshness of ride between the SS Cooper on 16" wheels and SS+ Cooper S on 16" wheels but maybe thats just me. They are both great cars though and because of the way my insurance and extras worked out the MCS cost very little more than the MC for me so I changed my order.
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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 03:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've never driven as S but i've always preferred the look of the cooper to the S. Its more 'pure' somehow, more 'mini' than the S.

Plus theres the added benefits of much lower fuel consumption & almost half the insurance cost

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 06:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Cooper S rules

True gearbox is bit harsh on the S than the Cooper - but it is a beast to drive and the noise of that supercharger is wicked - well worth my money just for that!

Going for the Cooper you will always feel that you opted for the lesser of the 3.

I did that with my Saxo VTR rather than VTS but that was as i was young and without any No Claims.

Copper S rules!!

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 06:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scooby212

Going for the Cooper you will always feel that you opted for the lesser of the 3.

Eh?
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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 06:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobnobski
currently running arround in the dealers base cooper - it doesnt have any extra options.
the only things I would add would be a/c and sport seats plus leather steering wheel.

I have been in the car a week and have to say I am very impressed & am even beginning to be swayed towards the cooper, its equally as fun as my MCS (although i do miss the supacharger whine!) far better on fuel, I prefer the gear box, although i do keep crunching reverse when looking for 6th!

Yep me thinks I might now be in the market for specced MC for £10k!

£10k! You'll be lucky.

My specced 02 Cooper is going for £13.5k to a dealer.

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 07:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The Cooper S is by far a better car IMO.

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 07:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scooby212
except the sperm of satan being the Civic Type R

Why do you say that? Civic type-R is an excellent car.

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 07:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have a MCS! two weeks old! I did test drive a cooper. It was good, but nothing compared to the S. They're both good cars, but the s is better!! and more expensive!
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Why do you say that? Civic type-R is an excellent car.

I used to own a CTR, great engine and gearbox but basic and bland inside.
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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 07:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Coooooper, Cooooper!! The "S" boys are converting!!!

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 08:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scooby212
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Going for the Cooper you will always feel that you opted for the lesser of the 3.



Seeing as there are 4 different models at present, I couldn't figure out what you were meaning, so I consulted my owners manual and was surprised to read the following:

page 135

PERFORMANCE

50-75 in 5th gear ONE 17.1s, Cooper 14.5s, ONE D, 13.1s, COOPER S 8.7s



So there we have it, the "lesser of the (first) 3" means MCS 1st, ONE D 2nd, and COOPER 3rd.

Unless of course you were meaning fuel consumption then the ONE D wins that one easy!

I'm sure that others might have a slightly different opinion......
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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 08:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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New loaded MC for 10k???

I thought a basic ONE starts at over 10k

Good luck btw

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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 08:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
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True, the MCS rules. The cooper may look cuter, but as I'm coming from an E46 M3, I REALLY need the power of the S. And the cooper's engine is barely audible!(again, I'm used to the scream of the M3) But I suppose it's personal.
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Old Feb 11th, 2004, 08:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
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True, the MCS rules. The cooper may look cuter, but as I'm coming from an E46 M3, I REALLY need the power of the S. And the cooper's engine is barely audible!(again, I'm used to the scream of the M3) But I suppose it's personal.

I wouldn't have bought any of them. I'd have stuck with the M3!

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