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lex76 · Feb 16th, 2004, 11:41 AM

As all of you certainly know the JCW mod has been out now for a while.
But when I bought my MCS it was still a concept that mini2 was talking about.
Recently I've seen lots of people say they have JCW MCS's.
What I'd like to know is if they bought their MCS JCW from BMW dealer from Jcw?
And also how many and who made the JCW mod after they bought the original MCS?

Since I'd like to do the mod, do you guys think I should maybe give in my MCS and order the same car with JCW maybe with more accessories (my car is 1 year and a half)?
Or just accept the HIGH price for the JCW kit. Cause I think it would cost less if i get a MCS with JCW instead of gettin' the mod done after you buy the car...

Intrepid · Feb 16th, 2004, 01:53 PM

Hello... I got my JCW MCS straight from my dealer - I'd been thinking about selling my Cooper and getting an S but then decided on JCW S - so the 'Works' was fitted at my dealer 2 days after the car was delivered.

I think what you do is up to you! Can you handle waiting for a new car - or is it easier just to upgrade your existing one..? Yours is a great colour - I've seen a Works in the Electirc blue with the Aero kit - it looked awesome!

ABG · Feb 16th, 2004, 02:36 PM

I was all set to order the MCS with Works pack from a BMW dealer until they told me they wanted over £3800 fitted. I can't recall the exact figures but it was around £300 more than John Cooper Garages. The dealer (Victoria - Milton Keynes) said they would get back to me later that day. Three days later with still no word I placed the order over the phone with JCG. Not only did I save money but I have a really authentic Works Cooper S.

I'd agree with Interpidmini that how it's done (and even if you choose Works or another engine mod) is a very personal decision. Whatever you decide have fun!

lex76 · Feb 16th, 2004, 02:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ABG

I was all set to order the MCS with Works pack from a BMW dealer until they told me they wanted over £3800 fitted. I can't recall the exact figures but it was around £300 more than John Cooper Garages. The dealer (Victoria - Milton Keynes) said they would get back to me later that day. Three days later with still no word I placed the order over the phone with JCG. Not only did I save money but I have a really authentic Works Cooper S.

I'd agree with Interpidmini that how it's done (and even if you choose Works or another engine mod) is a very personal decision. Whatever you decide have fun!

Jcg? Who might that be?...
How much did you spend for it all in the end?

ABG · Feb 16th, 2004, 03:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lex76

Jcg? Who might that be?...
How much did you spend for it all in the end?

Sorry - JCG= John Cooper Garages. It was going to be over £23k - however when the car arrived it was missing the sunroof. That lowered the price by £500, and JCG offered a further £500 discount on the price as well as a free roof decal and fitting. All in all it was mid £22k. I have a feeling that if I had bought from my local BMW dealer and they found the car was not delivered to spec they would have had "a take it or leave it" attitude. To be fair to other BMW dealers the Milton Keynes one is especially bad (IMO).

Intrepid · Feb 16th, 2004, 04:18 PM

Not that I've had ANY probs with the engine, but if I'd been sharper, I would have opted for John Cooper works/garage to fit the Works kit too... There's just a greater element of trust I think. You still get your certificate of authenticity if you don't have it fitted there... but the staff, attitude, professionalism at JCW (IMO) is of a higher quality than your average dealer, and they're so enthusiastic!

let us know what you decide!

Dave · Feb 16th, 2004, 04:53 PM

Unless you get a serious price break on getting the JCW new I recommend breaking the car in without it, learning what the car drives like and then getting the upgrade to gain a true appreciation for the difference. (By chance that's what I did)

Dave

snarl · Feb 16th, 2004, 08:29 PM

I attempted to get my JCW from the start but the Meister Mechanic was sick, so I had a weekend with the "S". A short 600 miles later I had the JCW installed. We take delivery of my wife's MCS in a few months so it will be interesting to compare the two.

Shawnster · Feb 17th, 2004, 12:41 AM

Mine was born a JCW's. I had to do it that way so I could finance it in.

Shawn
04 JCW #S1797

CooperS4us · Feb 17th, 2004, 03:37 AM

Since the JCW kit is not installed at the factory, all MCS' are "converted" not born regardless of whether you got the car new with it at the dealer or was installed afterwards.

Dave · Feb 17th, 2004, 03:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperS4us

Since the JCW kit is not installed at the factory, all MCS' are "converted" not born regardless of whether you got the car new with it at the dealer or was installed afterwards.

So true - Couldn't help thinking the same when I first read this post - but I think I got the drift.

lex76 · Feb 17th, 2004, 06:32 AM

The post as intended that there are two different prices for the same installation:
1) is if you buy the car with JCW (from the dealer)
2) the other is if you get JCW mod installed as an "aftermarket part"
The difference is over the 500$ (don't rember how much exactly...

)

Washy · Feb 17th, 2004, 07:24 AM

Mine should have been delivered with the kit....unfortunately a backlog meant it was fitted a couple of weeks late. Still I got to know my car as a standard S for a while

I agree with some of the other posters though. If I did it again I would get JCG to do the conversion themselves

lex76 · Feb 17th, 2004, 07:47 AM

Problem is I live in Italy...

Intrepid · Feb 17th, 2004, 08:56 AM

Great excuse to come over to sunny England for a long wekend?!

MichaelK · Feb 17th, 2004, 12:08 PM

Got mine direct from JCW (no7 joint first customer car

, in fact its over a year old now

)

They were originally going to have a seperate numbering system for cars direct from JCW, would have been nice

Cheers

Michael

CooperS4us · Feb 17th, 2004, 02:03 PM

To me, the JCW kit should be a factory installed option.

Ratty · Feb 17th, 2004, 08:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperS4us

To me, the JCW kit should be a factory installed option.

Got my Works S new directly from JCW, top service, much better than the average BMW / Mini dealer fit IMO (then I am biased !)

LMB · Feb 17th, 2004, 10:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnster

Mine was born a JCW's. I had to do it that way so I could finance it in.

Shawn
04 JCW #S1797

Like wise.

So I sold my S and bought a Works S.

loosecannon · Nov 25th, 2005, 08:49 AM

I ordered mine with the JCW package and according to John Cooper Works, it was the 38th one installed by the factory-I love the car!!

Feb 16th, 2004, 11:41 AM	#1
lex76 MINI LOVER Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Padova,Italy Local Time: 11:12 AM Posts: 147 Offline	Was yours born JCW? Or did it become JCW? As all of you certainly know the JCW mod has been out now for a while. But when I bought my MCS it was still a concept that mini2 was talking about. Recently I've seen lots of people say they have JCW MCS's. What I'd like to know is if they bought their MCS JCW from BMW dealer from Jcw? And also how many and who made the JCW mod after they bought the original MCS? Since I'd like to do the mod, do you guys think I should maybe give in my MCS and order the same car with JCW maybe with more accessories (my car is 1 year and a half)? Or just accept the HIGH price for the JCW kit. Cause I think it would cost less if i get a MCS with JCW instead of gettin' the mod done after you buy the car... My car - THE BEAST - A BESTIA

Feb 16th, 2004, 01:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Intrepid Gutter Princess Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Planet Hoff Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 3,454 Offline	Hello... I got my JCW MCS straight from my dealer - I'd been thinking about selling my Cooper and getting an S but then decided on JCW S - so the 'Works' was fitted at my dealer 2 days after the car was delivered. I think what you do is up to you! Can you handle waiting for a new car - or is it easier just to upgrade your existing one..? Yours is a great colour - I've seen a Works in the Electirc blue with the Aero kit - it looked awesome! http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/11588/54205.jpg

Feb 16th, 2004, 02:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
lex76 MINI LOVER Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Padova,Italy Local Time: 11:12 AM Posts: 147 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ABG I was all set to order the MCS with Works pack from a BMW dealer until they told me they wanted over £3800 fitted. I can't recall the exact figures but it was around £300 more than John Cooper Garages. The dealer (Victoria - Milton Keynes) said they would get back to me later that day. Three days later with still no word I placed the order over the phone with JCG. Not only did I save money but I have a really authentic Works Cooper S. I'd agree with Interpidmini that how it's done (and even if you choose Works or another engine mod) is a very personal decision. Whatever you decide have fun! Jcg? Who might that be?... How much did you spend for it all in the end? My car - THE BEAST - A BESTIA

Feb 16th, 2004, 04:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Intrepid Gutter Princess Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Planet Hoff Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 3,454 Offline	Not that I've had ANY probs with the engine, but if I'd been sharper, I would have opted for John Cooper works/garage to fit the Works kit too... There's just a greater element of trust I think. You still get your certificate of authenticity if you don't have it fitted there... but the staff, attitude, professionalism at JCW (IMO) is of a higher quality than your average dealer, and they're so enthusiastic! let us know what you decide! http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/11588/54205.jpg

Feb 16th, 2004, 08:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
snarl NON STOP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pacific NW, USA Local Time: 10:12 AM Posts: 210 Offline	I attempted to get my JCW from the start but the Meister Mechanic was sick, so I had a weekend with the "S". A short 600 miles later I had the JCW installed. We take delivery of my wife's MCS in a few months so it will be interesting to compare the two. Now this is fun:

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Feb 16th, 2004, 02:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 10:12 AM Posts: 8,385 Offline	I was all set to order the MCS with Works pack from a BMW dealer until they told me they wanted over £3800 fitted. I can't recall the exact figures but it was around £300 more than John Cooper Garages. The dealer (Victoria - Milton Keynes) said they would get back to me later that day. Three days later with still no word I placed the order over the phone with JCG. Not only did I save money but I have a really authentic Works Cooper S. I'd agree with Interpidmini that how it's done (and even if you choose Works or another engine mod) is a very personal decision. Whatever you decide have fun!

Feb 16th, 2004, 03:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
ABG Yatta!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Local Time: 10:12 AM Posts: 8,385 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by lex76 Jcg? Who might that be?... How much did you spend for it all in the end? Sorry - JCG= John Cooper Garages. It was going to be over £23k - however when the car arrived it was missing the sunroof. That lowered the price by £500, and JCG offered a further £500 discount on the price as well as a free roof decal and fitting. All in all it was mid £22k. I have a feeling that if I had bought from my local BMW dealer and they found the car was not delivered to spec they would have had "a take it or leave it" attitude. To be fair to other BMW dealers the Milton Keynes one is especially bad (IMO).

Feb 16th, 2004, 04:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dave MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Western WA Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 425 Offline	Unless you get a serious price break on getting the JCW new I recommend breaking the car in without it, learning what the car drives like and then getting the upgrade to gain a true appreciation for the difference. (By chance that's what I did) Dave

Feb 17th, 2004, 12:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Shawnster The Works! My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Local Time: 04:12 AM Posts: 151 Offline	Mine was born a JCW's. I had to do it that way so I could finance it in. Shawn 04 JCW #S1797 04 John Cooper Works MCS *Grab a gear and GO !* Quaife LSD - Madness Intake - Mania Stage 2 Clutch - Short Shift Kit - Ultrik Aluminum Flywheel

Feb 17th, 2004, 03:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
CooperS4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Florida Local Time: 05:12 AM Posts: 948 Offline	Since the JCW kit is not installed at the factory, all MCS' are "converted" not born regardless of whether you got the car new with it at the dealer or was installed afterwards. '02 Cooper CVT PW/B Leatherette, MFSW, 15" 8-spokes '05 MCS CR/W

Feb 17th, 2004, 03:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dave MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Western WA Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 425 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CooperS4us Since the JCW kit is not installed at the factory, all MCS' are "converted" not born regardless of whether you got the car new with it at the dealer or was installed afterwards. So true - Couldn't help thinking the same when I first read this post - but I think I got the drift.

Feb 17th, 2004, 06:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
lex76 MINI LOVER Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Padova,Italy Local Time: 11:12 AM Posts: 147 Offline	The post as intended that there are two different prices for the same installation: 1) is if you buy the car with JCW (from the dealer) 2) the other is if you get JCW mod installed as an "aftermarket part" The difference is over the 500$ (don't rember how much exactly... ) My car - THE BEAST - A BESTIA

Feb 17th, 2004, 07:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Washy seventh heaven? Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 10:12 AM Posts: 18,488 Offline	Mine should have been delivered with the kit....unfortunately a backlog meant it was fitted a couple of weeks late. Still I got to know my car as a standard S for a while I agree with some of the other posters though. If I did it again I would get JCG to do the conversion themselves Black to the future....

Feb 17th, 2004, 07:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
lex76 MINI LOVER Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Padova,Italy Local Time: 11:12 AM Posts: 147 Offline	Problem is I live in Italy... My car - THE BEAST - A BESTIA

Feb 17th, 2004, 08:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
Intrepid Gutter Princess Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Planet Hoff Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 3,454 Offline	Great excuse to come over to sunny England for a long wekend?! http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/11588/54205.jpg

Feb 17th, 2004, 12:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
MichaelK MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 342 Offline	Got mine direct from JCW (no7 joint first customer car , in fact its over a year old now ) They were originally going to have a seperate numbering system for cars direct from JCW, would have been nice Cheers Michael JCW Works S, DS/DS, Chilli, DSC, HAB, HK, panther black/lapis blue (Cloth) S0007

Feb 17th, 2004, 02:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
CooperS4us MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Florida Local Time: 05:12 AM Posts: 948 Offline	To me, the JCW kit should be a factory installed option. '02 Cooper CVT PW/B Leatherette, MFSW, 15" 8-spokes '05 MCS CR/W

Feb 17th, 2004, 08:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ratty MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Local Time: 09:12 AM Posts: 257 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CooperS4us To me, the JCW kit should be a factory installed option. Got my Works S new directly from JCW, top service, much better than the average BMW / Mini dealer fit IMO (then I am biased !)

Feb 17th, 2004, 10:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 10:12 AM Posts: 22,993 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnster Mine was born a JCW's. I had to do it that way so I could finance it in. Shawn 04 JCW #S1797 Like wise. So I sold my S and bought a Works S. Global Moderator

Nov 25th, 2005, 08:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
loosecannon MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Local Time: 03:12 AM Posts: 74 Offline	I ordered mine with the JCW package and according to John Cooper Works, it was the 38th one installed by the factory-I love the car!!

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