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The General · Mar 31st, 2002, 04:42 PM

Does anyone have any ideas what the trade in is like for a new Cooper against a Cooper S.

My dealer has put me down in the diary for a test drive of the S when it arrives and I will naturally ask him for a trade in price. My car is ONLY 4 weeks old (at the moment) but as I am not even on the waiting list for an S I reckon I will have my Cooper for a good few months yet.

And that brings me to another point - do I really need the S? I love the Cooper but feel I would love the S even more. Decisions, decisions!

T G.

kshapiro · Mar 31st, 2002, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The General
Does anyone have any ideas what the trade in is like for a new Cooper against a Cooper S.

My dealer has put me down in the diary for a test drive of the S when it arrives and I will naturally ask him for a trade in price. My car is ONLY 4 weeks old (at the moment) but as I am not even on the waiting list for an S I reckon I will have my Cooper for a good few months yet.

And that brings me to another point - do I really need the S? I love the Cooper but feel I would love the S even more. Decisions, decisions!

T G.

You definitely do not NEED the "S"...but yer gonna WANT one REAL bad!!!

LMB · Mar 31st, 2002, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by kshapiro
You definitely do not NEED the "S"...but yer gonna WANT one REAL bad!!!

Well put

ELISEBOY · Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:12 PM

i would love an S
would love a Works S even more!!!

KarmanS · Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:28 PM

thoughts are running through my head if I should get a Cooper first, given it's only a 2 month wait at my dealer at the moment. Then I could trade it for the S, which is about a 5-6 months after. I would probably stick with the wait since I don't want to spoil myself with the handling of the Cooper and driving the S would not feel that much more different other than the additional 'go' with the higher hp. I'd rather experience the S from scratch

Martin L · Apr 3rd, 2002, 02:36 AM

Supposed to be pretty good, well that's what my dealer promised!
Had my car a couple of weeks now and gonna get my S in September. Dealer said at worst it would depreciate 1,500 notes. Not bad I thought, slower depreciation than my old golf, so that's why I swapped and not regretting it at all

I love my Cooper but I will change to an S as I do find the Cooper does lack grunt at low revs. I haven't had the chance to run my Cooper at full thottle yet though, 500 miles to go before the run in period is over

Darn work keeps on getting in the way and spoiling things!

BI GAL · Apr 3rd, 2002, 07:37 AM

Sounds good to me Martin.

I'll just tell the dealer that the less he gives me for the Cooper, the less i have to spend on the 'S'

toombs · Apr 3rd, 2002, 06:40 PM

Trade in for a Cooper (mine is only 5 weeks old)

I have been told to expect 12k back for it. It cost 14k new. This is for July/August. So if you take the VAT off it isnt all that bad!!

I have been blatting the Cooper for about a week now. In a word Gripping!!

Martin L · Apr 4th, 2002, 02:37 AM

Don't buy the old trick from the dealer of them deducting the VAT. That's ********.

If they take your car for £12k they'll sell it for at least £13k. They won't need to charge VAT on it and probably make more money on it than a new car!

It's all about demand, supply, economics and all that crap.
If you take two similar cars, a brand new one and a second hand one say with only delivery milage, they are worth the same amount of money as people will be willing to pay probably the same amount for either because they're is no difference apart from one been "pre-owned".

Somebody please correct me if my logic is wrong as I haven't studied economics for at least 10 years!

Hang on...
I suppose you could haggle a better deal on the "pre-owned" one as the dealer has a better margin to work with, i.e the VAT.

Hmmmmm...
Anyone a car dealer who would like to shed light on this? I seem to be confusing myself

Basil · Apr 4th, 2002, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by Martin L
Don't buy the old trick from the dealer of them deducting the VAT. That's ********.( <---DUNG reference)

If they take your car for £12k they'll sell it for at least £13k. They won't need to charge VAT on it and probably make more money on it than a new car!

It's all about demand, supply, economics and all that crap. <----- another DUNG reference )
If you take two similar cars, a brand new one and a second hand one say with only delivery milage, they are worth the same amount of money as people will be willing to pay probably the same amount for either because they're is no difference apart from one been "pre-owned".

Somebody please correct me if my logic is wrong as I haven't studied economics for at least 10 years!

Hang on...
I suppose you could haggle a better deal on the "pre-owned" one as the dealer has a better margin to work with, i.e the VAT.

Hmmmmm...
Anyone a car dealer who would like to shed ( <----FARM reference )--- light on this? I seem to be confusing myself

your not a farmer by any chance are you Martin ?

Martin L · Apr 4th, 2002, 01:41 PM

Cheers Basil, now I know my calling in life.
Can't really do much farming in London though and until they introduce a 4x4 mini, I think I'll stay in my current profession thank you very much!
I suppose been a farmer's got its plus points though - all those country lanes to blast around in

p.s I hope there are no "farmer" references in there, well not that I can notice. If there are I might as well get me wellies out and start work at 4a.m.!

Basil · Apr 14th, 2002, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Martin L
Cheers Basil, now I know my calling in life.
Can't really do much farming in London though and until they introduce a 4x4 mini, I think I'll stay in my current profession thank you very much!
I suppose been a farmer's got its plus points though - all those country lanes to blast around in

p.s I hope there are no "farmer" references in there, well not that I can notice. If there are I might as well get me wellies out and start work at 4a.m.!

Mar 31st, 2002, 04:42 PM	#1
The General MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2002 Local Time: 07:19 PM Posts: 47 Offline	Cooper trade in for S Does anyone have any ideas what the trade in is like for a new Cooper against a Cooper S. My dealer has put me down in the diary for a test drive of the S when it arrives and I will naturally ask him for a trade in price. My car is ONLY 4 weeks old (at the moment) but as I am not even on the waiting list for an S I reckon I will have my Cooper for a good few months yet. And that brings me to another point - do I really need the S? I love the Cooper but feel I would love the S even more. Decisions, decisions! T G.

Mar 31st, 2002, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
kshapiro MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Local Time: 07:19 PM Posts: 937 Offline	Re: Cooper trade in for S Quote: Originally posted by The General Does anyone have any ideas what the trade in is like for a new Cooper against a Cooper S. My dealer has put me down in the diary for a test drive of the S when it arrives and I will naturally ask him for a trade in price. My car is ONLY 4 weeks old (at the moment) but as I am not even on the waiting list for an S I reckon I will have my Cooper for a good few months yet. And that brings me to another point - do I really need the S? I love the Cooper but feel I would love the S even more. Decisions, decisions! T G. You definitely do not NEED the "S"...but yer gonna WANT one REAL bad!!! Ken Shapiro Electric Blue w/ Sport Package...first "S" delivered in Maryland (5/10/02) I've been everywhere but the electric chair...I've seen everything but the wind.

Mar 31st, 2002, 06:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 08:19 PM Posts: 23,664 Offline	Re: Re: Cooper trade in for S Quote: Originally posted by kshapiro You definitely do not NEED the "S"...but yer gonna WANT one REAL bad!!! Well put Global Moderator

Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
KarmanS MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 03:19 AM Posts: 1,366 Offline	thoughts are running through my head if I should get a Cooper first, given it's only a 2 month wait at my dealer at the moment. Then I could trade it for the S, which is about a 5-6 months after. I would probably stick with the wait since I don't want to spoil myself with the handling of the Cooper and driving the S would not feel that much more different other than the additional 'go' with the higher hp. I'd rather experience the S from scratch Last edited by KarmanS : Apr 2nd, 2002 at 05:30 PM.

Apr 3rd, 2002, 06:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
toombs MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: uk Local Time: 07:19 PM Posts: 24 Offline	Trade in for a Cooper (mine is only 5 weeks old) I have been told to expect 12k back for it. It cost 14k new. This is for July/August. So if you take the VAT off it isnt all that bad!! I have been blatting the Cooper for about a week now. In a word Gripping!! Cooper s Dark Silver/Black Roof Full blue/black leather Xenon HL,17" s Alloys,DSC,Comp,MF s/wheel auto aircon Del. End July

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Apr 2nd, 2002, 05:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
ELISEBOY MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex Local Time: 08:19 PM Posts: 2,163 Offline	i would love an S would love a Works S even more!!!

Apr 3rd, 2002, 02:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:19 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	Supposed to be pretty good, well that's what my dealer promised! Had my car a couple of weeks now and gonna get my S in September. Dealer said at worst it would depreciate 1,500 notes. Not bad I thought, slower depreciation than my old golf, so that's why I swapped and not regretting it at all I love my Cooper but I will change to an S as I do find the Cooper does lack grunt at low revs. I haven't had the chance to run my Cooper at full thottle yet though, 500 miles to go before the run in period is over Darn work keeps on getting in the way and spoiling things!

Apr 3rd, 2002, 07:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
BI GAL MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nottingham, England Local Time: 08:19 PM Posts: 97 Offline	Sounds good to me Martin. I'll just tell the dealer that the less he gives me for the Cooper, the less i have to spend on the 'S'

Apr 4th, 2002, 02:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:19 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	Don't buy the old trick from the dealer of them deducting the VAT. That's ********. If they take your car for £12k they'll sell it for at least £13k. They won't need to charge VAT on it and probably make more money on it than a new car! It's all about demand, supply, economics and all that crap. If you take two similar cars, a brand new one and a second hand one say with only delivery milage, they are worth the same amount of money as people will be willing to pay probably the same amount for either because they're is no difference apart from one been "pre-owned". Somebody please correct me if my logic is wrong as I haven't studied economics for at least 10 years! Hang on... I suppose you could haggle a better deal on the "pre-owned" one as the dealer has a better margin to work with, i.e the VAT. Hmmmmm... Anyone a car dealer who would like to shed light on this? I seem to be confusing myself

Apr 4th, 2002, 09:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 05:19 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Martin L Don't buy the old trick from the dealer of them deducting the VAT. That's *******.( <---DUNG reference) If they take your car for £12k they'll sell it for at least £13k. They won't need to charge VAT on it and probably make more money on it than a new car! It's all about demand, supply, economics and all that crap. <----- another DUNG reference ) If you take two similar cars, a brand new one and a second hand one say with only delivery milage, they are worth the same amount of money as people will be willing to pay probably the same amount for either because they're is no difference apart from one been "pre-owned". Somebody please correct me if my logic is wrong as I haven't studied economics for at least 10 years! Hang on... I suppose you could haggle a better deal on the "pre-owned" one as the dealer has a better margin to work with, i.e the VAT. Hmmmmm... Anyone a car dealer who would like to shed ( <----FARM reference )--- light on this? I seem to be confusing myself your not a farmer by any chance are you Martin ? Last edited by Basil : Apr 4th, 2002 at 09:25 AM.*

Apr 4th, 2002, 01:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:19 PM Posts: 13,619 Offline	Cheers Basil, now I know my calling in life. Can't really do much farming in London though and until they introduce a 4x4 mini, I think I'll stay in my current profession thank you very much! I suppose been a farmer's got its plus points though - all those country lanes to blast around in p.s I hope there are no "farmer" references in there, well not that I can notice. If there are I might as well get me wellies out and start work at 4a.m.!

Apr 14th, 2002, 06:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 05:19 AM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Martin L Cheers Basil, now I know my calling in life. Can't really do much farming in London though and until they introduce a 4x4 mini, I think I'll stay in my current profession thank you very much! I suppose been a farmer's got its plus points though - all those country lanes to blast around in p.s I hope there are no "farmer" references in there, well not that I can notice. If there are I might as well get me wellies out and start work at 4a.m.!

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