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dav · May 22nd, 2004, 04:14 PM

Please share your story! Like many other CA buyers, I went out of state to avoid the $1000-$2500 Cooper S dealer mark-up. For those of you in the biz, what techniques can CA buyers use to negotiate the best deal on a Mini? (Last day of the month walk in right before they close...etc.)

sequence · May 23rd, 2004, 05:48 AM

One suggestion: Go to Long Beach MINI, put your name on the list, and wait for an MSRP car.

You think the markups are high there in CA? Go to Desert MINI in Vegas--astounding!

Upwards of $5 K for a JCW!!

Anywho, to pay less than MSRP for a new MCS (if U can find them) right now is impossible, given the whacked supply/demand proportion for these cars, and the fact that the MCS has one of the lowest projected depreciation values of any car sold in America right now (right behind the BMW Z8 and M-B SLK AMG, according to JD Power 2003 survey).

Excluvisity, name recognition and heritage, and low production numbers coupled with a used market at less than 5% are adding to the mystique....

There will be those who will respond and make U think the eastern half of the country is some kind of well-stocked MCS happy-land, where the old "end-of the month" for a bargin tactic will work here. It will not. This car is different. The western US is different. BMW defintely underestimated projected demand W of the Mississippi....

Any dealer who is selling U an MCS for MSRP, given all the factors, is doing you good. You may have to wait like the rest of us, but HEY pay down bills and save up for the down $$.

And you may have noticed I didn't mention the MC--I imagine that perhaps with those yes some small nickle-dime discounts are available for cars in stock. Jimbo

Tabor Nansk · May 24th, 2004, 04:08 PM

I did the "beat Ca. markup" and got my MC at Desert Mini Las Vegas. Ordered in Feb. and picked it up in April. However at delivery, my MA said due to recent demand outstripping supply, mine was like the last one going for MSRP (he said his sales mgr was whinning, but they'd already committed to me for MSRP) Don't know about things recently. It'd be too bad if they were still marking up.

buz · May 24th, 2004, 04:19 PM

Saved enough y going out of state to have the JCW kit installed!!!!! Local dealers would not budge from premium pricing even while I was counting out cash. Put my money back in my pocket, made a bunch of calls eventually placing an order with Mini of the Hamptons. I really like the MOTH attitude and approach; they are true Mini people. Ten weeks from date of order to SoCal!!!!!

minibat · Jun 6th, 2004, 07:21 PM

To my knowledge of Ca delaers, there are only 2 in Ca that sell for MSRP...Long Beach (so cal) and East Bay Mini in Pleasanton (just east of San Fransico. One little bitty hang up, the wait for a MCS is 10-12 months....Anyone want and '06?

Pebbles · Jun 7th, 2004, 12:43 AM

You might want to call Moritz in Arlington Texas (or I guess any of the 5 Texas dealers) about ordering and buying the car there. but Moritz is close to DFW airport and you can fly in and pick it up and drive him home.

racer-x · Jun 7th, 2004, 01:25 AM

Long Beach Mini, anywhere else will cost too much DOUGHBOY!!!

EBMCS03 · Jun 7th, 2004, 03:13 AM

I thought East Bay MINI costs the same amount of doughboy as LB

sequence · Jun 7th, 2004, 03:28 AM

So do Salt Lake, Phoenix, Denver

hell, Denver has an MC40 for MSRP that's making one dandy showroom display

GreyStreet · Jun 7th, 2004, 03:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sequence

So do Salt Lake, Phoenix, Denver

hell, Denver has an MC40 for MSRP that's making one dandy showroom display

Scottsdale/Phoenix has a 1 year waiting list.

jaieism · Jun 7th, 2004, 04:03 AM

We bargained our MC to $700+ below MSPR.... no waiting list at all....

Ordered on May 24 and production complete is est. to be on June 10....

UT_Chase · Jun 7th, 2004, 04:18 AM

Got my MCS for MSRP with only a 3 month wait at Momentum Mini in Houston. But that was a year ago, I don't know if that has changed. Their prices haven't seemed to change much, but I don't pay attention as much as I did then.

Its not CA, but if you don't mind the drive, its an option.

Eric_Rowland · Jun 7th, 2004, 03:51 PM

Care to provide any details, jaieism? - Dealer, technique?

sequence · Jun 8th, 2004, 02:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GreyStreet

Scottsdale/Phoenix has a 1 year waiting list.

Denver is approaching a year, right now about 10 mos (S) 3 mos (MC)

May 22nd, 2004, 04:14 PM	#1
dav MINI2 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA; So. CA Local Time: 11:23 AM Posts: 256 Offline	Any CA Mini buyers pay less than MSRP for their new Cooper S? Please share your story! Like many other CA buyers, I went out of state to avoid the $1000-$2500 Cooper S dealer mark-up. For those of you in the biz, what techniques can CA buyers use to negotiate the best deal on a Mini? (Last day of the month walk in right before they close...etc.) 2004 MCS BORN 9-'03 http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A4%3B...C7823535wp1lsi http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A4%3B...74853%3Bwp1lsi

May 24th, 2004, 04:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tabor Nansk IB/W '04 MC Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Placerville, CA Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 82 Offline	MSRP in Vegas I did the "beat Ca. markup" and got my MC at Desert Mini Las Vegas. Ordered in Feb. and picked it up in April. However at delivery, my MA said due to recent demand outstripping supply, mine was like the last one going for MSRP (he said his sales mgr was whinning, but they'd already committed to me for MSRP) Don't know about things recently. It'd be too bad if they were still marking up.

May 24th, 2004, 04:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
buz Poco Loco Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern California Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 137 Offline	Saved enough y going out of state to have the JCW kit installed!!!!! Local dealers would not budge from premium pricing even while I was counting out cash. Put my money back in my pocket, made a bunch of calls eventually placing an order with Mini of the Hamptons. I really like the MOTH attitude and approach; they are true Mini people. Ten weeks from date of order to SoCal!!!!! Poco Loco: '04 LY/B, Works MCS, S2933

Jun 7th, 2004, 12:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pebbles MINI2 Oldie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Local Time: 02:23 PM Posts: 292 Offline	You might want to call Moritz in Arlington Texas (or I guess any of the 5 Texas dealers) about ordering and buying the car there. but Moritz is close to DFW airport and you can fly in and pick it up and drive him home. "Mr Bridger"

Jun 7th, 2004, 01:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
racer-x MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern California Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 157 Offline	Long Beach Mini, anywhere else will cost too much DOUGHBOY!!! Attached Images

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May 23rd, 2004, 05:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
sequence No Steenkin Preevileeg Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Makin' Killer Tacos Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 661 Offline	One suggestion: Go to Long Beach MINI, put your name on the list, and wait for an MSRP car. You think the markups are high there in CA? Go to Desert MINI in Vegas--astounding! Upwards of $5 K for a JCW!! Anywho, to pay less than MSRP for a new MCS (if U can find them) right now is impossible, given the whacked supply/demand proportion for these cars, and the fact that the MCS has one of the lowest projected depreciation values of any car sold in America right now (right behind the BMW Z8 and M-B SLK AMG, according to JD Power 2003 survey). Excluvisity, name recognition and heritage, and low production numbers coupled with a used market at less than 5% are adding to the mystique.... There will be those who will respond and make U think the eastern half of the country is some kind of well-stocked MCS happy-land, where the old "end-of the month" for a bargin tactic will work here. It will not. This car is different. The western US is different. BMW defintely underestimated projected demand W of the Mississippi.... Any dealer who is selling U an MCS for MSRP, given all the factors, is doing you good. You may have to wait like the rest of us, but HEY pay down bills and save up for the down $$. And you may have noticed I didn't mention the MC--I imagine that perhaps with those yes some small nickle-dime discounts are available for cars in stock. Jimbo

Jun 6th, 2004, 07:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
minibat The S stands for speed! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northern California Local Time: 11:23 AM Posts: 260 Offline	To my knowledge of Ca delaers, there are only 2 in Ca that sell for MSRP...Long Beach (so cal) and East Bay Mini in Pleasanton (just east of San Fransico. One little bitty hang up, the wait for a MCS is 10-12 months....Anyone want and '06?

Jun 7th, 2004, 03:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
EBMCS03 M5 Extraordinare! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: So Cal Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 6,768 Offline	I thought East Bay MINI costs the same amount of doughboy as LB EB/W MCS Arrived (3/26/03) SOLD 4/25/06

Jun 7th, 2004, 03:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
sequence No Steenkin Preevileeg Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Makin' Killer Tacos Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 661 Offline	msrp So do Salt Lake, Phoenix, Denver hell, Denver has an MC40 for MSRP that's making one dandy showroom display

Jun 7th, 2004, 03:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
GreyStreet MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 115 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sequence So do Salt Lake, Phoenix, Denver hell, Denver has an MC40 for MSRP that's making one dandy showroom display Scottsdale/Phoenix has a 1 year waiting list.

Jun 7th, 2004, 04:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
jaieism .::Binx::. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunni Cali Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 345 Offline	We bargained our MC to $700+ below MSPR.... no waiting list at all.... Ordered on May 24 and production complete is est. to be on June 10.... 2004 MINI Cooper Catch me if you can

Jun 7th, 2004, 04:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
UT_Chase MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Local Time: 01:23 PM Posts: 33 Offline	Got my MCS for MSRP with only a 3 month wait at Momentum Mini in Houston. But that was a year ago, I don't know if that has changed. Their prices haven't seemed to change much, but I don't pay attention as much as I did then. Its not CA, but if you don't mind the drive, its an option. Cooper S: Recently awarded the highest FunUnits per Dollar rating by JD Power and Associates.

Jun 7th, 2004, 03:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Eric_Rowland MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Local Time: 07:23 PM Posts: 182 Offline	Care to provide any details, jaieism? - Dealer, technique?

Jun 8th, 2004, 02:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
sequence No Steenkin Preevileeg Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Makin' Killer Tacos Local Time: 12:23 PM Posts: 661 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GreyStreet Scottsdale/Phoenix has a 1 year waiting list. Denver is approaching a year, right now about 10 mos (S) 3 mos (MC)

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