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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 04:34 PM   #1
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Pepper White residuals

Looking to upgrade my MC to a MCS next March but can't decide between HB/B or PW/B. Only concern with the PW/B is the effect on the residual value of the car after 2/3 years when I come to sell.

Has anyone recently traded in their PW MCS and been offered a derisory price or been met with the salesman saying it's a bad choice and they would offered a bit more if the car was in a more popular colour?

I've seen a few threads discussing this but no one's actually come up with any definitive trade-in prices they're getting now for, say, a 2 year old example. Anyone had experience of part-exing???

BTW, looking to spend Ģ17,500-18k in total including Chili pack, DSC, MFSW, stripes and a few other niceties.

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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 05:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can tell you this, the PW color is VERY popular in Atlanta, GA. It seems every other one I see is that color, (I could be seeing the same car, different drivers).
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 06:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Can't help you out on it, but there aren't too many PWs around here in SE Michigan.

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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I faced exactly the same dilema myself and in the end, I chickened out and went for HB/W.

You could argue until you're blue in the face about how good PW/B looks on the Mini (and you wouldn't hear me disagree) but the bottom line is that the motor trade hammers white cars savagely.

This is a fact, and I have personal experience to back it up. Once bitten, twice shy as they say.

At the end of the day it all depends on how much you love the colour versus are you prepared to accept, say for example, Ģ500-Ģ1000 less when you come to trade in or have the car lingering around in the Autotrader for months trying to sell it.
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 08:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm trying to decide now between CR/W, PW/B or full PW

I asked my dealer about the resale difference and was told the white would be lower (specific prices not mentioned), but when they do have a PW for sale, they have no trouble selling them on as they look so good.

I don't think you'd struggle selling private, but trading it in you (and possibly me ) would suffer most.
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 08:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree with Neil. White cars in the UK lose lots of money. I had a white car before I got my first MINI. Looked stunning, but hardly got anything for it when I sold it.

I too was thinking of a PW/B S but in the end have bottled it and gone for red/white for my new S. I did ask the dealer if residuals were lower for PW MINIs but he gave a very non-commital answer. They do look stunning though.
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 08:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Blue Cooper Re Pepper White residuals

I was in the same boat. I really like the PW/B combo, but was never a white car fan in the past.. Ended up going with my origional instinct and ordered HB/B ... but sill love that PW/B combo.. hardest part is choosing the color ... and waiting (tick-tock)

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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 08:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by tnoy66
I'm trying to decide now between CR/W, PW/B or full PW

I asked my dealer about the resale difference and was told the white would be lower (specific prices not mentioned), but when they do have a PW for sale, they have no trouble selling them on as they look so good.

I don't think you'd struggle selling private, but trading it in you (and possibly me ) would suffer most.

Was that at Almondbury?
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 08:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by pob
Was that at Almondbury?

nope, Scotthall Leeds
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 09:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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As Pepper White isn't a true white (it's slightly off-colour), I'm not so sure that it would suffer as other White cars do. Personally, I think the PW/B with Cordoba interior looks fantastic! I'd buy what YOU like - so what if you lose a couple of extra dollars - you'll be the one living with it for a while.
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 09:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Mmm...still undecided...agree that it's an "off-white" and that I can see that a dealer wouldn't have a problem selling it once it's on the forecourt and they see it "in the metal". But bargaining with a main stealer (MINI/BMW/whoever) come trade-in, I'm just worried they'd try and pull a fast one and argue the price down.

However, saying that, just did a quick web search via the MINI cherished site & comes up with a couple of examples similarly priced to colours like DS, EB etc. Wonder whether these were traded in and how much they got???
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 09:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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very interesting - why do white cars sell for lower values? this is the first i've heard...i was thinking of getting a pw/b combo...
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would you still feel the same if the colour was called " cream " or "ivory "

a dealer would try to find a reason to give you less no matter what the colour .
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you could always buy a "dark silver " like Tom

or a "blue " like Richard

or a " red " like Harry
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Old Oct 12th, 2004, 09:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think if you have an unpopular car and its white you may struggle,if you have a popular car and its white you may struggle but if you have the extremely popular three month wait MINI its not going to be a problem.More and more people are opting for PW and that means it is a popular colour, which means dealers won't have a problem selling them second hand and if they say its not worth as much because of the colour then they are trying it on.If its that bad they should make metallic paint Ģ250 and red,black and yellow free,and they should then pay YOU Ģ250 to have PW .
The author of this post would like to point out that he is slightly biased and drives a PW MINI.

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Old Oct 13th, 2004, 07:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by steve1968
you could always buy a "dark silver " like Tom

or a "blue " like Richard

or a " red " like Harry



i'm buying pepper white (with cordoba beige) because it looks stunning & i love it, bugger the residuals

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Old Oct 13th, 2004, 07:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I parked up next to an 02 PW ONE with black stripes and pepperpots at the local Co-op the other night.

It looked FG.


54 Plate All Black Cooper S with Chilli, BoostCD, MFSW, Heated bits.

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Way to go Hat! It really is one of the better combinations.
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Old Oct 13th, 2004, 03:03 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i've just bought one, can email pics if anyone is unsure just how good pepper white can look.
mine has painted aero kit, viper stripes etc.
actually like all the colours but you do see some alot more than others .
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Hi Steve1968(it was a good year) can you post some piccies,i've got PW with vipers but no aero just interested to check it out.
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