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lawgee · May 14th, 2002, 02:34 PM

do u think a cooper s is a fast car?

Marts · May 14th, 2002, 02:37 PM

Looking at the cars available today in its price range it is relatively competitive,..... but I would n't class it as fast.

AidenL · May 14th, 2002, 02:51 PM

Havent driven one yet........cant say.......probably quickish.....

KarmanS · May 14th, 2002, 03:30 PM

really depends on what you define 'fast' is. For instance, a BMW 530i could be considered fast, but an M5 is a fast car too (understatement!

)

If you look at straight acceleration figures, you won't necessarily classify the Cooper S as a fast car although it does outperform many cars in its class (same goes for the Cooper). The one area where the Cooper S/Cooper can be considered superior to most other cars is it's road handling capability. Given the road is all twists and turns (i.e. mountain road, racetrack, etc.), the Cooper S/Cooper may turn out to be the faster type of cars to get you through it. Like others have mentioned before, the Cooper S/Cooper could use a few extra HP to make it a better all round performer especially in the acceleration department if that's what you are looking for. my 2 cents.

COOPERation · May 14th, 2002, 03:31 PM

According to what I have read, the copper s is not as fast as the Cooper S.

KarmanS · May 14th, 2002, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
According to what I have read, the copper s is not as fast as the Cooper S.

reading the subject header clearly now and reading what you've posted, what's the difference between the 'copper s' and the cooper S? I thought he meant the cooper S all along.

AidenL · May 14th, 2002, 03:41 PM

Just having a little fun, I think !!

AidenL · May 14th, 2002, 03:43 PM

And I totally agree about the importance of handling vis-a-vis point to point speed......

kcollins · May 14th, 2002, 03:50 PM

Depends how you drive too.. if you drive like a bat out of hell all the time then you'll think a laggy, turbo Subaru WRX will fit the bill (which is my daily driver). However, for USEABLE speed, the Mini Cooper wins the stop light wars from the start as the torque is available lower down in the rev range.

Kurt Collins

KarmanS · May 14th, 2002, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AidenL
Just having a little fun, I think !!

ah I see... not so fast on the uptake this afternoon

LMB · May 14th, 2002, 06:27 PM

I thought the Cooper was fast, so I can't see me being disapointed with the S.

We will see

Basil · May 14th, 2002, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by COOPERation
According to what I have read, the copper s is not as fast as the Cooper S.

There's always one........

I'll fix it ok.......

suprchrgdmini · May 14th, 2002, 09:26 PM

I HAD A NEON THAT I HAD DONE UP COMPLETELY FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER . NOS AND ALL. THE COOPER S BLOWS IT AWAY IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KILLS IN IN THE CORNERS. ME PERSONALLY THE COOPER S IS FAST ENOUGH, THEN AGAIN I LIVE IN NY AND IT IS USAULLY IT IS USAULLY BUMPER TO BUMPER OVER HERE.

Bilbo Baggins · May 14th, 2002, 10:14 PM

You bet it is! But, it is all relative. The "feel" is fast when you are driving it. The power builds, 'n builds, 'n builds as it pushes you firmly back into the seat. You are close to the ground, in a tight package, the illusion of speed is strong with this one.

But, is it fast? It does 0 - 60 mph in 6.9 sec for $19,850. An Audi A4 Quattro 1.8T manual does it in 7.9 sec for $29,000. An SVT Mustang Cobra does it in 4.9 sec for only $34,000. A Kawasaki ZX-9R does it in 2.9 sec. for $9,499. It all depends what you want. The cheapest performance is still on two wheels.

I still would rather have the MINI Cooper S!!!!!

Bilbo Baggins · May 14th, 2002, 10:15 PM

[quote]Originally posted by suprchrgdmini
I HAD A NEON THAT I HAD DONE UP COMPLETELY FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER . NOS AND ALL. THE COOPER S BLOWS IT AWAY IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KILLS IN IN THE CORNERS. ME PERSONALLY THE COOPER S IS FAST ENOUGH, THEN AGAIN I LIVE IN NY AND IT IS USAULLY IT IS USAULLY BUMPER TO BUMPER OVER HERE. [/QUOTE

Geeeeesss! Stop with the yelling already.

Basil · May 14th, 2002, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by suprchrgdmini
I HAD A NEON THAT I HAD DONE UP COMPLETELY FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER . NOS AND ALL. THE COOPER S BLOWS IT AWAY IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KILLS IN IN THE CORNERS. ME PERSONALLY THE COOPER S IS FAST ENOUGH, THEN AGAIN I LIVE IN NY AND IT IS USAULLY IT IS USAULLY BUMPER TO BUMPER OVER HERE.

As Bilbo has mentioned, typing in capitals generally means you are shouting.......doesn;t bother me, but obviously disturbs others......

BI GAL · May 15th, 2002, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basil

...........typing in capitals generally means you.....

...have CAPS LOCK switched ON.

suprchrgdmini · May 15th, 2002, 09:10 AM

The problem is that my keyboard at home is broken and the caps stay on always. Me personally cant see howe caps on can bother someone but i guess that i smy opinion.From now on i wont post at home so i dont bother anyone with the caps.

Basil · May 15th, 2002, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by suprchrgdmini
The problem is that my keyboard at home is broken and the caps stay on always. Me personally cant see howe caps on can bother someone but i guess that i smy opinion.From now on i wont post at home so i dont bother anyone with the caps.

ha ha ha ha, listen....... considering everything that's going on in the world, I reckon a few people can put up with capitals....... you keep posting at home till you get your keyboard fixed ok. The rest of us will buy some earplugs when we read your posts in the meantime.....

1963_1071_COOPER_S · May 15th, 2002, 11:24 AM

Fastest enough for me - I have only ever driven Peugeot Diesels on a regular basis. Fastest thing I driven was Henri Toivanens 1981 RAC Rally winning Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - now that were fast !

May 14th, 2002, 02:34 PM	#1
lawgee MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vancouver Local Time: 06:49 AM Posts: 111 Offline	cooper s do u think a cooper s is a fast car? Last edited by Basil : May 14th, 2002 at 08:23 PM.

May 14th, 2002, 02:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 07:49 AM Posts: 42,151 Offline	Havent driven one yet........cant say.......probably quickish..... *Global Moderator*

May 14th, 2002, 03:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
KarmanS MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 02:49 PM Posts: 1,366 Offline	really depends on what you define 'fast' is. For instance, a BMW 530i could be considered fast, but an M5 is a fast car too (understatement! ) If you look at straight acceleration figures, you won't necessarily classify the Cooper S as a fast car although it does outperform many cars in its class (same goes for the Cooper). The one area where the Cooper S/Cooper can be considered superior to most other cars is it's road handling capability. Given the road is all twists and turns (i.e. mountain road, racetrack, etc.), the Cooper S/Cooper may turn out to be the faster type of cars to get you through it. Like others have mentioned before, the Cooper S/Cooper could use a few extra HP to make it a better all round performer especially in the acceleration department if that's what you are looking for. my 2 cents. Last edited by KarmanS : May 14th, 2002 at 03:35 PM.

May 14th, 2002, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 07:49 AM Posts: 42,151 Offline	Just having a little fun, I think !! *Global Moderator*

May 14th, 2002, 03:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 07:49 AM Posts: 42,151 Offline	And I totally agree about the importance of handling vis-a-vis point to point speed...... *Global Moderator*

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May 14th, 2002, 02:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Marts MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: just moving to Great Local Time: 07:49 AM Posts: 516 Offline	Looking at the cars available today in its price range it is relatively competitive,..... but I would n't class it as fast.

May 14th, 2002, 03:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
COOPERation MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Local Time: 02:49 AM Posts: 1,401 Offline	According to what I have read, the copper s is not as fast as the Cooper S.

May 14th, 2002, 03:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
KarmanS MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 02:49 PM Posts: 1,366 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation According to what I have read, the copper s is not as fast as the Cooper S. reading the subject header clearly now and reading what you've posted, what's the difference between the 'copper s' and the cooper S? I thought he meant the cooper S all along.

May 14th, 2002, 03:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
kcollins Kaptain Krutaroo Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington, DC Local Time: 02:49 AM Posts: 396 Offline	Useable Speed? YES! Depends how you drive too.. if you drive like a bat out of hell all the time then you'll think a laggy, turbo Subaru WRX will fit the bill (which is my daily driver). However, for USEABLE speed, the Mini Cooper wins the stop light wars from the start as the torque is available lower down in the rev range. Kurt Collins Kaptain Krutaroo - Kurt Collins - Washington, DC #8 2009 MINI JCW CR/B

May 14th, 2002, 03:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
KarmanS MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: HKG Local Time: 02:49 PM Posts: 1,366 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by AidenL Just having a little fun, I think !! ah I see... not so fast on the uptake this afternoon

May 14th, 2002, 06:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 07:49 AM Posts: 24,910 Offline	I thought the Cooper was fast, so I can't see me being disapointed with the S. We will see Global Moderator

May 14th, 2002, 08:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by COOPERation According to what I have read, the copper s is not as fast as the Cooper S. There's always one........ I'll fix it ok.......

May 14th, 2002, 09:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
suprchrgdmini BOLT ON MASTER Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island NY Local Time: 01:49 AM Posts: 538 Offline	cooper s I HAD A NEON THAT I HAD DONE UP COMPLETELY FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER . NOS AND ALL. THE COOPER S BLOWS IT AWAY IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KILLS IN IN THE CORNERS. ME PERSONALLY THE COOPER S IS FAST ENOUGH, THEN AGAIN I LIVE IN NY AND IT IS USAULLY IT IS USAULLY BUMPER TO BUMPER OVER HERE.

May 14th, 2002, 10:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 02:49 AM Posts: 8,854 Offline	Cooper S fast? You bet it is! But, it is all relative. The "feel" is fast when you are driving it. The power builds, 'n builds, 'n builds as it pushes you firmly back into the seat. You are close to the ground, in a tight package, the illusion of speed is strong with this one. But, is it fast? It does 0 - 60 mph in 6.9 sec for $19,850. An Audi A4 Quattro 1.8T manual does it in 7.9 sec for $29,000. An SVT Mustang Cobra does it in 4.9 sec for only $34,000. A Kawasaki ZX-9R does it in 2.9 sec. for $9,499. It all depends what you want. The cheapest performance is still on two wheels. I still would rather have the MINI Cooper S!!!!! Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired) Last edited by Bilbo Baggins : May 16th, 2002 at 07:53 PM.

May 14th, 2002, 10:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 02:49 AM Posts: 8,854 Offline	Re: cooper s [quote]Originally posted by suprchrgdmini I HAD A NEON THAT I HAD DONE UP COMPLETELY FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER . NOS AND ALL. THE COOPER S BLOWS IT AWAY IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KILLS IN IN THE CORNERS. ME PERSONALLY THE COOPER S IS FAST ENOUGH, THEN AGAIN I LIVE IN NY AND IT IS USAULLY IT IS USAULLY BUMPER TO BUMPER OVER HERE. [/QUOTE Geeeeesss! Stop with the yelling already. Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired)

May 14th, 2002, 11:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: cooper s Quote: Originally posted by suprchrgdmini I HAD A NEON THAT I HAD DONE UP COMPLETELY FROM BUMPER TO BUMPER . NOS AND ALL. THE COOPER S BLOWS IT AWAY IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND KILLS IN IN THE CORNERS. ME PERSONALLY THE COOPER S IS FAST ENOUGH, THEN AGAIN I LIVE IN NY AND IT IS USAULLY IT IS USAULLY BUMPER TO BUMPER OVER HERE. As Bilbo has mentioned, typing in capitals generally means you are shouting.......doesn;t bother me, but obviously disturbs others......

May 15th, 2002, 07:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
BI GAL MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nottingham, England Local Time: 07:49 AM Posts: 97 Offline	Re: Re: cooper s Quote: Originally posted by Basil ...........typing in capitals generally means you..... ...have CAPS LOCK switched ON.

May 15th, 2002, 09:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
suprchrgdmini BOLT ON MASTER Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island NY Local Time: 01:49 AM Posts: 538 Offline	Caps on The problem is that my keyboard at home is broken and the caps stay on always. Me personally cant see howe caps on can bother someone but i guess that i smy opinion.From now on i wont post at home so i dont bother anyone with the caps.

May 15th, 2002, 09:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 04:49 PM Posts: 5,956 Offline	Re: Caps on Quote: Originally posted by suprchrgdmini The problem is that my keyboard at home is broken and the caps stay on always. Me personally cant see howe caps on can bother someone but i guess that i smy opinion.From now on i wont post at home so i dont bother anyone with the caps. ha ha ha ha, listen....... considering everything that's going on in the world, I reckon a few people can put up with capitals....... you keep posting at home till you get your keyboard fixed ok. The rest of us will buy some earplugs when we read your posts in the meantime.....

May 15th, 2002, 11:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
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