[mace]

After reading all the raves between these two springs, I can't choose which one to pick. Can someone here provide me with an explanation which one I should buy and why? Thanks in advance!

[cooper_s_flyer]

Quote: Originally Posted by mace

After reading all the raves between these two springs, I can't choose which one to pick. Can someone here provide me with an explanation which one I should buy and why? Thanks in advance!

...forget the springs option and save up for a proper set of coilovers. You will be much happier in the longrun and your car will be "happier" as well.

The springs only route often achieves a lower car with a more unrefined ride and skewed camber than that which coilovers would yield. This is one area where one really should not exercise the axiom of "trying to save money". The adage "bang for your buck" may be "literally achieved" with the springs only option. Camber plates should be a serious consideration as well.

I hope it works out for you whatever your decision...

[CooperSAZ]

I have also read about these two sets of springs being very good! I also read somewhere that coilovers might be overkill for the average enthusiast... The shocks that the MINI comes with are pretty good as far as compression and rebound. But agreed, camber plates will come into play once the car starts to get closer to the ground!

I am sizing up a good set of springs (probably H-Sport) and rear swaybar!!!

[CooperSAZ]

Sorry to read about your '95 M3, those are fun cars!

[mace]

Eh? How'd u know about that?

[cooper_s_flyer]

Quote: Originally Posted by CooperSAZ

I have also read about these two sets of springs being very good! I also read somewhere that coilovers might be overkill for the average enthusiast... The shocks that the MINI comes with are pretty good as far as compression and rebound. But agreed, camber plates will come into play once the car starts to get closer to the ground!

I am sizing up a good set of springs (probably H-Sport) and rear swaybar!!!

I have been chastized in the past for just "doing springs" by the SCCA racequip crowd. "The pros" tell me that stock shocks with aftermarket springs is not a good idea. But, you seem to have your info from sources you respect and in the end you must go with your own gut feeling. H-Sport is a very respected company and their products are widely utilized with, from what I understand, very few issues.

Hope your upgrade turns out to be highly rewarding. Keep us posted !

[CooperSAZ]

Quote: Originally Posted by cooper_s_flyer

I have been chastized in the past for just "doing springs" by the SCCA racequip crowd. "The pros" tell me that stock shocks with aftermarket springs is not a good idea. But, you seem to have your info from sources you respect and in the end you must go with your own gut feeling. H-Sport is a very respected company and their products are widely utilized with, from what I understand, very few issues.

Hope your upgrade turns out to be highly rewarding. Keep us posted !

If you are hanging out with SCCA and possibly autocrossing, then I see where you get your opinion. I would also agree that the coilovers would suit you best since you sound like you will "use" the full benefit it provides! Cheers to that!

[UnderRadar]

Most MCS drivers--including ethusiasts and light autocrossers--won't be able to realize the real potential of coilovers on their cars. The MCS handles very well for a stock FWD car, and adding a rear sway bar with springs (as well as proper tires) will provide a ride that exceeds most people's needs.

I had PSS9's and fr/rr sway bars on my 2000 Golf 1.8t because that car handled like butt without them. WIth my MCS I'm going with H-Sport springs and a rear sway bar, and I think I'll be very happy. I'm going to take the $1000 I save and go to a racing school. That's where the real handling of my car will be improved.

As far as which spring, I would say the H-Sports because I have never heard a bad thing about them. Everyone who has them goes on and on about how great they are. I also know quite a few people who are autocrossing these with stock struts and no problems. When the stock ones go, you can just buy some Koni adjustables. I mean, if you're serious about tracking your car, you're going to be going through parts anyway. Might as well use up the stock parts when possible and just keep adding on as you wear and tear.

[mace]

Thanx for the all the answers guys! I'll get the H-Sport springs and Mini Madness rear sway bar.

[SFJAMES]

hello there, no one has mentioned anything about the m7's besides hearing how good they are.
I have m7 springs on my ride and like them alot. My 02 came with some pretty stiff springs that sucked on the bumpier roads and freeways, basically because you feel the jumping between the front and back. M7's pretty much killed all the jumpiness. Perfect for cruising and aggressive driving IMO.

A few buddies of mine have h-sports and like em alot too, but admit that they get kinda rough. I'm sure because they are a progressive spring, they are intitially softer, but it's not by very much. Remember that your options will also determine how the springs feel too. Good luck man!

James

[mace]

Hey this may be a dumb question, but if I change to lowering springs, can I still get alignment under warranty? I mean I know the camber/caster will be off, but can dealer still adjust the toe under warranty? Thanks!

[CooperSAZ]

Quote: Originally Posted by mace

Hey this may be a dumb question, but if I change to lowering springs, can I still get alignment under warranty? I mean I know the camber/caster will be off, but can dealer still adjust the toe under warranty? Thanks!

While I have no experience in this yet... I would venture to say no... It will not be covered! They could easily argue that you needed the alignment because you "altered" the suspension from the way it came from the factory!

Could be wrong though....