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James Haigh · Mar 15th, 2002, 09:07 AM

Does anyone agree with me that the 0-62 time on the cooper seems to be quite a bit faster than 9.2 secs as stated.
I have unproffesionally timed it with a stop watch at around the high 7's. I also took my mate up on an offer to race him in his 2.5 V6 24v Vectra SRI and kept up with him all the way. When it came to bends the cooper took the Mick as expected but the 0-60 time on the vectra is 8 secs.
Another time was when I went out in the country side with my bird, a mate and his bird in my cooper so it was at full capacity and we were followed by another mate and his bird in a Saxo VTR. The full to bursting Cooper absolutley blitzed them off the road to say the least. I know the VTR is a bit slower but belive me this took the you know what!!

Dom · Mar 15th, 2002, 09:30 AM

Yes, it's lower than 9.2 - The official testing is done at around 3000ft above sea level in Germany. This affects results as the air is thinner at this altitude.

Check out the events section and look for Silverstone. Go to trax this year and you can find out the time tested with proper equipment.

I remember timing mine at mid-low 8's without traction control (with friend in car doing the timing), and high 9's with traction control on. I will accept though, this isn't exactly the most precise of methods!

Try search for 0-60 or 0-62, you will probably find quite a few posts...

Dom

James Haigh · Mar 15th, 2002, 09:32 AM

Cheers for that info Dom!

Dom · Mar 15th, 2002, 09:35 AM

No probs...

Oh, word of warning - don't try 0-60 with traction control on too many times, you may get whiplash!

Dom

potts · Mar 15th, 2002, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
No probs...

Oh, word of warning - don't try 0-60 with traction control on too many times, you may get whiplash!

Dom

Why is that?

Skinnyrunt · Mar 15th, 2002, 12:23 PM

Top Gear magazine has it as 8.6 seconds

Red & White Cooper 2 · Mar 15th, 2002, 05:06 PM

Auto Express magazine has it as 8.5 seconds, as does Road and Track. What Car has 8.6 seconds.

Dom · Mar 18th, 2002, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by potts

Why is that?

Well traction control tends to cut the power when the wheels are spinning. Once traction is fully regained, the power comes back. Kinda like a very long kangaroo effect from learner drivers!

Dom

MINIALEX · Mar 18th, 2002, 05:38 AM

Can anyone tell me or estimate the 0 - 100mph time? I reckon the 0-60 is about 8

potts · Mar 18th, 2002, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom

Well traction control tends to cut the power when the wheels are spinning. Once traction is fully regained, the power comes back. Kinda like a very long kangaroo effect from learner drivers!

Dom

Cheers Dom, I've never driven with traction control and am looking forward to giving it a spin - Mid May

Thanks again.

Red & White Cooper 2 · Mar 18th, 2002, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Can anyone tell me or estimate the 0 - 100mph time? I reckon the 0-60 is about 8

How do you work out the 0-60 is about 8, when the best properly measured times are 8.5 seconds?

Top gear was the only magazine to measure the 0-100 time - 28.1 seconds.

Damo · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Red & White Cooper 2

How do you work out the 0-60 is about 8, when the best properly measured times are 8.5 seconds?

Top gear was the only magazine to measure the 0-100 time - 28.1 seconds.

Hmm I suppose if you look at everybody other car manufacturer's figures then at the recorded figures you could get 8. Think about the Citroen Saxo VTS has 0-60 of 7.4 (or is it 7.0) but Top Gear only got 8.0 out of it. So if you go by Citroen's "Over estimate" say. of 0.6 seconds 0.6/8.0=0.075 and then times 0.075 by 8.6 you get 0.645 of a second. So the Citroen "offical" figures for a mini cooper would be 0-60 of 8.6-0.645= 7.955 which rounds to 8!

Yes I was Bored when I decided to do this

Dom · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo

Hmm I suppose if you look at everybody other car manufacturer's figures then at the recorded figures you could get 8. Think about the Citroen Saxo VTS has 0-60 of 7.4 (or is it 7.0) but Top Gear only got 8.0 out of it. So if you go by Citroen's "Over estimate" say. of 0.6 seconds 0.6/8.0=0.075 and then times 0.075 by 8.6 you get 0.645 of a second. So the Citroen "offical" figures for a mini cooper would be 0-60 of 8.6-0.645= 7.955 which rounds to 8!

Yes I was Bored when I decided to do this

The Saxo VTS has a claimed 7.8 time on the citroen website. But you try and find a standard one nowadays...

Dom

Damo · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom

The Saxo VTS has a claimed 7.8 time on the citroen website. But you try and find a standard one nowadays...

Dom

7.8! Is that all! My mates been telling me porkies

As I keep telling him tho, his may be quicker 0-60, but Mine'll handle better and will looke better and have 17's WITHOUT having to have the arch's shaved

Dom · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo

7.8! Is that all! My mates been telling me porkies
As I keep telling him tho, his may be quicker 0-60, but Mine'll handle better and will looke better and have 17's WITHOUT having to have the arch's shaved

If you can find a copy of January 2002 Revs magazine (yellow with red rover on front) and look at the saxo featured near the back, that's my mates. I can keep up with him on accelleration through the gears, and he has a very hard time trying to keep up through the twisties. The MINI has a far torquier engine as standard which probably helps compensate the weight difference. He's got an induction kit, manifold and straight through de-cat exhaust and we reckon mine feels as thought it's got more potential. They both go on the rollers at the end of April so we'll see what happens...

Dom

Damo · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom

If you can find a copy of January 2002 Revs magazine (yellow with red rover on front) and look at the saxo featured near the back, that's my mates. I can keep up with him on accelleration through the gears, and he has a very hard time trying to keep up through the twisties. The MINI has a far torquier engine as standard which probably helps compensate the weight difference. He's got an induction kit, manifold and straight through de-cat exhaust and we reckon mine feels as thought it's got more potential. They both go on the rollers at the end of April so we'll see what happens...

Dom

Is his a VTR or VTS tho?

Dom · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo

Is his a VTR or VTS tho?

A VTS, for sale @ £7,000 ono

Dom

Damo · Mar 19th, 2002, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom

A VTS, for sale @ £7,000 ono

Dom

Hmmm a VTS, which my mate has got or a Mini Cooper? Hmm hard decision that NOT! I mean a MINI/BMW or a Citroen come on!

NO seriously I was going to get a VTR as it was quick and free insurance, then my mate got one, (he traded it in for a VTS a month or so a go) so that went out the window, and nobody else did a simlar performance car as the VTR (they were all VTS terretory) with Free insurance. Then I happened to niop into the BMW garage to service the car and thought I'd have a look. Been hooked on having a Mini ever since! ROLL ON MAY!!!

Dom · Mar 19th, 2002, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damo

Hmmm a VTS, which my mate has got or a Mini Cooper? Hmm hard decision that NOT! I mean a MINI/BMW or a Citroen come on!

NO seriously I was going to get a VTR as it was quick and free insurance, then my mate got one, (he traded it in for a VTS a month or so a go) so that went out the window, and nobody else did a simlar performance car as the VTR (they were all VTS terretory) with Free insurance. Then I happened to niop into the BMW garage to service the car and thought I'd have a look. Been hooked on having a Mini ever since! ROLL ON MAY!!!

I was also contemplating a VTR (would've been cheaper!), but I took one look at the MINI, test drove a ONE and bought a cooper. 'Nuff said.

Dom

Damo · Mar 19th, 2002, 11:46 AM

The VTR was out of it for definate for me as soon as I tried to sit in the drivers eat of my mates. Couldn't get my legs under the steering wheel. If I moved the seat further back it was uncomfortable. Plus have you seen the pedals!! God knows how my mate drives the thing! I have size 9's and had trouble he's size 11!

Mar 15th, 2002, 09:07 AM	#1
James Haigh MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sheffield, U.K Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 230 Offline	0-60 on cooper Does anyone agree with me that the 0-62 time on the cooper seems to be quite a bit faster than 9.2 secs as stated. I have unproffesionally timed it with a stop watch at around the high 7's. I also took my mate up on an offer to race him in his 2.5 V6 24v Vectra SRI and kept up with him all the way. When it came to bends the cooper took the Mick as expected but the 0-60 time on the vectra is 8 secs. Another time was when I went out in the country side with my bird, a mate and his bird in my cooper so it was at full capacity and we were followed by another mate and his bird in a Saxo VTR. The full to bursting Cooper absolutley blitzed them off the road to say the least. I know the VTR is a bit slower but belive me this took the you know what!! DS/Black Cooper S, Chilli pack, Full leather, Climate DSC, Clear lights and 212 ponies Hartge kit.

Mar 15th, 2002, 09:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
James Haigh MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sheffield, U.K Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 230 Offline	Cheers for that info Dom! DS/Black Cooper S, Chilli pack, Full leather, Climate DSC, Clear lights and 212 ponies Hartge kit.

Mar 18th, 2002, 05:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
MINIALEX MINI2 Master Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LEICESTERSHIRE Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 1,077 Offline	Can anyone tell me or estimate the 0 - 100mph time? I reckon the 0-60 is about 8 Cometh the Hour, Cometh the MINI

Mar 19th, 2002, 04:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 10,533 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Red & White Cooper 2 How do you work out the 0-60 is about 8, when the best properly measured times are 8.5 seconds? Top gear was the only magazine to measure the 0-100 time - 28.1 seconds. Hmm I suppose if you look at everybody other car manufacturer's figures then at the recorded figures you could get 8. Think about the Citroen Saxo VTS has 0-60 of 7.4 (or is it 7.0) but Top Gear only got 8.0 out of it. So if you go by Citroen's "Over estimate" say. of 0.6 seconds 0.6/8.0=0.075 and then times 0.075 by 8.6 you get 0.645 of a second. So the Citroen "offical" figures for a mini cooper would be 0-60 of 8.6-0.645= 7.955 which rounds to 8! Yes I was Bored when I decided to do this North West Rolling Road Day 26th July

Mar 19th, 2002, 04:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 10,533 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dom The Saxo VTS has a claimed 7.8 time on the citroen website. But you try and find a standard one nowadays... Dom 7.8! Is that all! My mates been telling me porkies As I keep telling him tho, his may be quicker 0-60, but Mine'll handle better and will looke better and have 17's WITHOUT having to have the arch's shaved North West Rolling Road Day 26th July

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Mar 15th, 2002, 09:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Yes, it's lower than 9.2 - The official testing is done at around 3000ft above sea level in Germany. This affects results as the air is thinner at this altitude. Check out the events section and look for Silverstone. Go to trax this year and you can find out the time tested with proper equipment. I remember timing mine at mid-low 8's without traction control (with friend in car doing the timing), and high 9's with traction control on. I will accept though, this isn't exactly the most precise of methods! Try search for 0-60 or 0-62, you will probably find quite a few posts... Dom

Mar 15th, 2002, 09:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	No probs... Oh, word of warning - don't try 0-60 with traction control on too many times, you may get whiplash! Dom

Mar 15th, 2002, 11:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
potts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambridge and Doncas Local Time: 08:54 AM Posts: 177 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dom No probs... Oh, word of warning - don't try 0-60 with traction control on too many times, you may get whiplash! Dom Why is that?

Mar 15th, 2002, 12:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Skinnyrunt M2 Bapmaster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cheshire/staffs bord Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 3,145 Offline	Top Gear magazine has it as 8.6 seconds

Mar 15th, 2002, 05:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Red & White Cooper 2 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 08:54 AM Posts: 372 Offline	Auto Express magazine has it as 8.5 seconds, as does Road and Track. What Car has 8.6 seconds.

Mar 18th, 2002, 04:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by potts Why is that? Well traction control tends to cut the power when the wheels are spinning. Once traction is fully regained, the power comes back. Kinda like a very long kangaroo effect from learner drivers! Dom

Mar 18th, 2002, 10:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
potts MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambridge and Doncas Local Time: 08:54 AM Posts: 177 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dom Well traction control tends to cut the power when the wheels are spinning. Once traction is fully regained, the power comes back. Kinda like a very long kangaroo effect from learner drivers! Dom Cheers Dom, I've never driven with traction control and am looking forward to giving it a spin - Mid May Thanks again.

Mar 18th, 2002, 12:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
Red & White Cooper 2 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2001 Local Time: 08:54 AM Posts: 372 Offline	Quote: Can anyone tell me or estimate the 0 - 100mph time? I reckon the 0-60 is about 8 How do you work out the 0-60 is about 8, when the best properly measured times are 8.5 seconds? Top gear was the only magazine to measure the 0-100 time - 28.1 seconds.

Mar 19th, 2002, 04:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo Hmm I suppose if you look at everybody other car manufacturer's figures then at the recorded figures you could get 8. Think about the Citroen Saxo VTS has 0-60 of 7.4 (or is it 7.0) but Top Gear only got 8.0 out of it. So if you go by Citroen's "Over estimate" say. of 0.6 seconds 0.6/8.0=0.075 and then times 0.075 by 8.6 you get 0.645 of a second. So the Citroen "offical" figures for a mini cooper would be 0-60 of 8.6-0.645= 7.955 which rounds to 8! Yes I was Bored when I decided to do this The Saxo VTS has a claimed 7.8 time on the citroen website. But you try and find a standard one nowadays... Dom

Mar 19th, 2002, 04:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo 7.8! Is that all! My mates been telling me porkies As I keep telling him tho, his may be quicker 0-60, but Mine'll handle better and will looke better and have 17's WITHOUT having to have the arch's shaved If you can find a copy of January 2002 Revs magazine (yellow with red rover on front) and look at the saxo featured near the back, that's my mates. I can keep up with him on accelleration through the gears, and he has a very hard time trying to keep up through the twisties. The MINI has a far torquier engine as standard which probably helps compensate the weight difference. He's got an induction kit, manifold and straight through de-cat exhaust and we reckon mine feels as thought it's got more potential. They both go on the rollers at the end of April so we'll see what happens... Dom

Mar 19th, 2002, 04:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 10,533 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dom If you can find a copy of January 2002 Revs magazine (yellow with red rover on front) and look at the saxo featured near the back, that's my mates. I can keep up with him on accelleration through the gears, and he has a very hard time trying to keep up through the twisties. The MINI has a far torquier engine as standard which probably helps compensate the weight difference. He's got an induction kit, manifold and straight through de-cat exhaust and we reckon mine feels as thought it's got more potential. They both go on the rollers at the end of April so we'll see what happens... Dom Is his a VTR or VTS tho? North West Rolling Road Day 26th July

Mar 19th, 2002, 04:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo Is his a VTR or VTS tho? A VTS, for sale @ £7,000 ono Dom

Mar 19th, 2002, 06:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 10,533 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Dom A VTS, for sale @ £7,000 ono Dom Hmmm a VTS, which my mate has got or a Mini Cooper? Hmm hard decision that NOT! I mean a MINI/BMW or a Citroen come on! NO seriously I was going to get a VTR as it was quick and free insurance, then my mate got one, (he traded it in for a VTS a month or so a go) so that went out the window, and nobody else did a simlar performance car as the VTR (they were all VTS terretory) with Free insurance. Then I happened to niop into the BMW garage to service the car and thought I'd have a look. Been hooked on having a Mini ever since! ROLL ON MAY!!! North West Rolling Road Day 26th July

Mar 19th, 2002, 10:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Damo Hmmm a VTS, which my mate has got or a Mini Cooper? Hmm hard decision that NOT! I mean a MINI/BMW or a Citroen come on! NO seriously I was going to get a VTR as it was quick and free insurance, then my mate got one, (he traded it in for a VTS a month or so a go) so that went out the window, and nobody else did a simlar performance car as the VTR (they were all VTS terretory) with Free insurance. Then I happened to niop into the BMW garage to service the car and thought I'd have a look. Been hooked on having a Mini ever since! ROLL ON MAY!!! I was also contemplating a VTR (would've been cheaper!), but I took one look at the MINI, test drove a ONE and bought a cooper. 'Nuff said. Dom

Mar 19th, 2002, 11:46 AM	#20 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 09:54 AM Posts: 10,533 Offline	The VTR was out of it for definate for me as soon as I tried to sit in the drivers eat of my mates. Couldn't get my legs under the steering wheel. If I moved the seat further back it was uncomfortable. Plus have you seen the pedals!! God knows how my mate drives the thing! I have size 9's and had trouble he's size 11! North West Rolling Road Day 26th July

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