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andrewcfm · Feb 2nd, 2004, 10:47 AM

Hi guys,

Firstly, let me say great forum - there's a good community spirit here

Me and the missus are on the verge of ordering a Cooper. We're going for a test drive on Saturday and expect to be placing a order for one. I was wondering tho, if someone could be so kind as to clear a few things up for moi.

1)Engine noise - in a couple of reviews, I've noticed that there's quite a bit mentioned about engine noise after 3.5/4K revs. At the moment, we own a Corolla Tsport with an engine loud enough to wake up the dead!. We do a few miles at motorway speeds and as our hearing is still recovering from the Corolla, we don't fancy the same kind of noise again.

2)Dealer - obviously, there's little leeway for negotiating a discount for the car, but what are the chances of getting something else thrown in (TLC pack for example) - our local dealer is Vines of Guildford, so if anyone has any experience of getting any goodies from them......

3)Aircon - is it worth splashing out the extra 200quid for the auto aircon?

Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided.

Andrew

JTT · Feb 2nd, 2004, 11:38 AM

With regards to free tlc you should be able to get it free.

I asked my local dealer and they said no, I replied that i bet I could find another local dealer who would, and then they decided to give it to me free, funny that!

They won't want to miss a sale over something so small

brett · Feb 2nd, 2004, 11:53 AM

I think that you will find it really good highway car. Where I livein the country, The closest Mc Donalds is about 300km away. So When i'm in the Mini it's for a long time. I find it quiet and comfy. Although I have fitted sound proofing to the rear hatch floor and the doors and now the front wheel wells. Even without this, the car was quiet. Now it is actually quieter than my parents new 318i

Mega Mini · Feb 2nd, 2004, 12:05 PM

Tlc should be free i wish i had known this. Nothing is ever off the price but you may be able to get super guard and rubber mats thrown in. It depends on the value of your order. Each time you want an extra spec ask for something else free. there is a thread on here on the search about free stuff. I think manual air con is fine. Put the money towards the visability pack which i think is far better value. No scraping in winter and auto wipers.

KJ_daGreenMini · Feb 2nd, 2004, 12:08 PM

i got TLC free plus £250 off the car and 3 fluffy mini ruck sacks. lol. Push em hard.

MarkW19 · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:23 PM

I got some white indicator repeaters and alloy footrest! They're really generous these MINI dealers!!

It varies from dealer to dealer. No harm in trying though - TLC ISN'T free, it's just it seems to be one of things a lot of people get thrown in if they ask.

dcfkan · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:32 PM

Climate Control is well worth the extra, you get a good looking set of dials on the dash on top of hassle free operation

DK

:apple:

jason.mullins · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:34 PM

What is the TLC?

Jason

Mega Mini · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:38 PM

Not sure if they call it tlc in america. It stands for tender loving care and is an extra over here costing £100 although some people blag it for free. It basically gives you three years servicing for the £100 which is great value.

DJC · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:43 PM

Hello, with regard to the noise issue, i do not think the Cooper is bad at all. And yes you should get the Climate ! Hope this helps, Damian.

badboyzbadboyz · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:48 PM

1) All the MINI's I have driven I have found to be very well insulated and sound no different to my dads 320D BMW. If you rev the Cooper over 4,000 rpm then the sound does pickup but in a sporty way which suits the car IMO.

2) At my dealer there isn't much chance of getting anything for free, and not so long ago it wasn't rare to find dealers selling MINI's for more than the normal price. Still, you should try it - you never know they might throw something in for free.

3) You didn't have a flag under your name so I'm not sure where you are from. If you are from the UK I would say that you never need auto air con to an extent where you pay extra for it. If auto air con came standard I wouldn't mind it but otherwise I wouldn't pay more. Also, the air con is said to drain a fair bit of power off the Cooper - so I know I would have it turned off most of the time and would pretty much use it like manual air con.

JTT · Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mega Mini

Not sure if they call it tlc in america. It stands for tender loving care and is an extra over here costing £100 although some people blag it for free. It basically gives you three years servicing for the £100 which is great value.

5 years!

TMini · Feb 3rd, 2004, 12:42 AM

In the US, three years maintenance is included with all cars at no charge.

Mega Mini · Feb 4th, 2004, 08:11 AM

Yes sorry it is five years. what excellent value.

andrewcfm · Feb 5th, 2004, 12:02 PM

Thanks for the advice guys. Am going for my test drive this Saturday - haven't felt this exciting since the time I went to Hamleys when i was 12 years old.

Pippin · Feb 5th, 2004, 02:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by TMini

In the US, three years maintenance is included with all cars at no charge.

WARRANTY INFO

4-year/50,000 Mile Warranty
At MINI, our commitment to quality, durability and customer satisfaction is clearly demonstrated by a 4-year/50,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty and a 6-year/unlimited-mileage warranty against rust and corrosion perforation.

Feb 2nd, 2004, 10:47 AM	#1
andrewcfm Soon to be one Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, UK Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Cooper questions Hi guys, Firstly, let me say great forum - there's a good community spirit here Me and the missus are on the verge of ordering a Cooper. We're going for a test drive on Saturday and expect to be placing a order for one. I was wondering tho, if someone could be so kind as to clear a few things up for moi. 1)Engine noise - in a couple of reviews, I've noticed that there's quite a bit mentioned about engine noise after 3.5/4K revs. At the moment, we own a Corolla Tsport with an engine loud enough to wake up the dead!. We do a few miles at motorway speeds and as our hearing is still recovering from the Corolla, we don't fancy the same kind of noise again. 2)Dealer - obviously, there's little leeway for negotiating a discount for the car, but what are the chances of getting something else thrown in (TLC pack for example) - our local dealer is Vines of Guildford, so if anyone has any experience of getting any goodies from them...... 3)Aircon - is it worth splashing out the extra 200quid for the auto aircon? Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided. Andrew

Feb 2nd, 2004, 11:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
brett 1st MINI Owner in QLD !!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St George Local Time: 07:03 PM Posts: 2,233 Offline	I think that you will find it really good highway car. Where I livein the country, The closest Mc Donalds is about 300km away. So When i'm in the Mini it's for a long time. I find it quiet and comfy. Although I have fitted sound proofing to the rear hatch floor and the doors and now the front wheel wells. Even without this, the car was quiet. Now it is actually quieter than my parents new 318i 1968 Mk1 Morris Cooper S 1310cc Downton Lake Green - White 1974 Leyland Mini 1098c Country Cream 2008 MINI Cooper S Chilli Pepper White - Black Roof

Feb 5th, 2004, 02:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
Pippin MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Local Time: 03:03 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Well actually - Quote: Originally Posted by TMini In the US, three years maintenance is included with all cars at no charge. WARRANTY INFO 4-year/50,000 Mile Warranty At MINI, our commitment to quality, durability and customer satisfaction is clearly demonstrated by a 4-year/50,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty and a 6-year/unlimited-mileage warranty against rust and corrosion perforation.

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Feb 2nd, 2004, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
JTT Mini B'atch Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Da Club Local Time: 09:03 AM Posts: 217 Offline	With regards to free tlc you should be able to get it free. I asked my local dealer and they said no, I replied that i bet I could find another local dealer who would, and then they decided to give it to me free, funny that! They won't want to miss a sale over something so small

Feb 2nd, 2004, 12:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mega Mini Proud New Mini Owner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bath Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 187 Offline	Tlc should be free i wish i had known this. Nothing is ever off the price but you may be able to get super guard and rubber mats thrown in. It depends on the value of your order. Each time you want an extra spec ask for something else free. there is a thread on here on the search about free stuff. I think manual air con is fine. Put the money towards the visability pack which i think is far better value. No scraping in winter and auto wipers.

Feb 2nd, 2004, 12:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
KJ_daGreenMini what happened to that boy Join Date: Feb 2003 Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 1,636 Offline	i got TLC free plus £250 off the car and 3 fluffy mini ruck sacks. lol. Push em hard.

Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 3,396 Offline	I got some white indicator repeaters and alloy footrest! They're really generous these MINI dealers!! It varies from dealer to dealer. No harm in trying though - TLC ISN'T free, it's just it seems to be one of things a lot of people get thrown in if they ask.

Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
dcfkan In exile, down SOUTH! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London WC1 Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 13,228 Offline	Climate Control is well worth the extra, you get a good looking set of dials on the dash on top of hassle free operation DK :apple:

Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
jason.mullins MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Local Time: 05:03 AM Posts: 3 Offline	What is the TLC? Jason

Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mega Mini Proud New Mini Owner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bath Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 187 Offline	Not sure if they call it tlc in america. It stands for tender loving care and is an extra over here costing £100 although some people blag it for free. It basically gives you three years servicing for the £100 which is great value.

Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
DJC MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 329 Offline	Hello, with regard to the noise issue, i do not think the Cooper is bad at all. And yes you should get the Climate ! Hope this helps, Damian.

Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
badboyzbadboyz MINI2 Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 09:03 AM Posts: 1,231 Offline	1) All the MINI's I have driven I have found to be very well insulated and sound no different to my dads 320D BMW. If you rev the Cooper over 4,000 rpm then the sound does pickup but in a sporty way which suits the car IMO. 2) At my dealer there isn't much chance of getting anything for free, and not so long ago it wasn't rare to find dealers selling MINI's for more than the normal price. Still, you should try it - you never know they might throw something in for free. 3) You didn't have a flag under your name so I'm not sure where you are from. If you are from the UK I would say that you never need auto air con to an extent where you pay extra for it. If auto air con came standard I wouldn't mind it but otherwise I wouldn't pay more. Also, the air con is said to drain a fair bit of power off the Cooper - so I know I would have it turned off most of the time and would pretty much use it like manual air con.

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Feb 2nd, 2004, 09:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
JTT Mini B'atch Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Da Club Local Time: 09:03 AM Posts: 217 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Mega Mini Not sure if they call it tlc in america. It stands for tender loving care and is an extra over here costing £100 although some people blag it for free. It basically gives you three years servicing for the £100 which is great value. 5 years!

Feb 3rd, 2004, 12:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
TMini Minisotan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota Local Time: 04:03 AM Posts: 61 Offline	In the US, three years maintenance is included with all cars at no charge.

Feb 4th, 2004, 08:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mega Mini Proud New Mini Owner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bath Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 187 Offline	Yes sorry it is five years. what excellent value.

Feb 5th, 2004, 12:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
andrewcfm Soon to be one Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, UK Local Time: 10:03 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Thanks for the advice guys. Am going for my test drive this Saturday - haven't felt this exciting since the time I went to Hamleys when i was 12 years old.