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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 10:34 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Anyone else feel they've been missold their Countryman on the basis of completely unrealistic fuel consumption claims?
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Old Mar 26th, 2012, 10:11 AM
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Sorry to hear that. Anyone else feel they've been missold their Countryman on the basis of completely unrealistic fuel consumption claims?

Yep 100%, I've even taken mine back to be told it was running OK and was nothing wrong with the figures - this was also backed up by BMW customer service. Well if there's nothing wrong why don't they at least come within 15% of the published figure that would be acceptable, but I'm / was (see other thread in Cooper D section) getting 38.9 mpg which is more like 30% out

I've also had the recall done which is the complete replacement of the fuel lines fitted to the underside of the car and guess what I'm now the proud owner of a dented Countryman, it's been repaired but it's not the point, it should not have been done in the first place - it's not a car park dent this is in the rear hatch next to the opener - I'm still trying to work out how they managed it.

Mines a Cooper D All4 just for reference - I do believe the transmission loses are a lot higher than they Mini realise, which is part of the problem.

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Quote: Originally Posted by macrotech (original)
Sorry to hear that. Anyone else feel they've been missold their Countryman on the basis of completely unrealistic fuel consumption claims?

Yep - I've recently got a Cooper D ALL4 Manual and have not got anywhere near to the 57mpg combined figure quoted - at best I've managed to get 40mpg and that's by really trying to drive conservatively. I had a Landrover Freelander diesel before and used to get 33mpg, not bad I thought when the quoted combined mpg was around 36. Hey ho - the Mini is more fun to drive than the Freelander, so as the mpg is better I don't mind too much, but I'd be interested in how on earth anyone could get 57 out of it?!
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Hi all,
I have a 2011 Countryman 2W automatic and I'm getting about 17mpg combined (mostly city). I bought it brand new last June and reset the computer each time I fill the tank. I don't drive aggressively and in fact am consciously trying to get the best MPG possible.

I had a 2008 Clubman 2W Automatic prior to this and was getting about 4mpg less than sticker (I thought this was acceptable). My Countryman is getting about 10mpg less than sticker.

I spoke with Countryman All4 stick owner and he was getting 23mpg and admitted to driving aggressively. How is it that an All4 is getting much better MPG than I am?!

I've taken it to the dealer with concern over the poor mileage. They claim it is consistent with the averages. I'm not satisfied with their answer - which is why I'm reaching out to the community. I'm savvy enough to know about the typical MPG-killers: sport mode, air conditioning, sudden acceleration, hills, frequent start/stop, etc. My driving pattern and habits have not changed since driving my Clubman. Other than the poor mileage I love my Countryman.

Any thoughts?
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ce driving my Clubman. Other than the poor mileage I love my Countryman.

Any thoughts?

As a group we make a claim to Mini that we have been missold our cars on the basis of misleading fuel consumption figures.

Basically it needs to get out in public that Mini's figures are so far from reality that they are selling cars under false pretences, and they need to be forced to modify their brochures to give more realistic figures.

I have contacted Which about this but have received no response so far.

I think the Countryman is great to drive, but the fuel consumption is taking the p**s (and I've had reliability issues but that's another story).
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I have now driven my Countryman All4S automatic for 5,000 miles, and generally get 28 MPG on the highway, and about 20 MPG in the city
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Quote: Originally Posted by macrotech (original)
I have contacted Which about this but have received no response so far.

They may reply quoting their own test figures for S and D Countrymen compared to BMW's claims:

S (combined) 42.2mpg claimed, 37.2 mpg measured
D (combined) 64.2 mpg claimed, 56.5 mpg measured

So not the night-and-day difference often stated here.
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I have now driven my Countryman All4S automatic for 5,000 miles, and generally get 28 MPG on the highway, and about 20 MPG in the city


that's shocking, I get 39-41mpg easily from my Landrover Freelander 2, which is a proper four wheel drive and about twice the weight of a Countryman.

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Hi. I'm new around here. Have had my Cooper D manual 2WD for a few weeks now, which I bought as an ex-demo with 4500 on the clock. It has now done approaching 6000, and I'm averaging around 49 mpg. I had expected much better. My previous was a Golf mk6 2.0 TDi, and I was averaging somewhere north of 65 mpg (depending largely on time of year), even better than the published stats (and yes, I'm confident that my figures are accurate).

I'm really disappointed with the consumption on the Countryman. I do around 25000 miles per year, and so economy is very important to me. I had hoped to get somewhere reasonably close to the claimed 64 mpg. I reckon the 1.6 engine is having to work too hard at motorway speeds, or on on the slightest uphill gradients. Cruising at 70 on a flat motorway, my Countryman will be doing around 45 mpg at best, whereas the 2.0 Golf would have been doing high 60s in the same conditions i.e. not having to work nearly as hard as the Mini's engine.

Anyway, other that the consumption, I'm happy with most other aspects of the car. But I just hope the MPG improves further as I put more miles on the engine, otherwise I may well have to sell the car on.
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I can't keep my finger off the sport button long enough for a accurate reading
I've owned my countryman for two weeks and have 900 miles on it .
Time to chill and figure my mileage with octane at 91
I wonder if octane makes a difference with mileage
Does anyone know ?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mechanic1 (original)
I wonder if octane makes a difference with mileage
Does anyone know ?

yes higher octane can help, however it depends on whether the engine will use it. Modern ecu's will adjust however, you might need 3 or 4 tanks before ecu notices. Although 91 isn't available over here (to my knowledge) as we have 95 as standard 98/99 premium and 102 in certain BP filling stations
But if it won't change automatically - a plug in can always advance the timings for you.

Shame I'm diesel these days...
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just found this site as this is my first 'NEW' mini , well i have a UK Mini Cooper D and so far after 650 miles i'm getting 44.1 MPG and happy with this as it takes an engine a good 8k to 'Run In' , but a good 'BURN' now and again is good to decoke an engine thats done city mileage 20k+, so far very happy with my MINI
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30 miles from me is a station that sells 93 R+M/2 without ethanol

i get 6mpg better mpg with this than 93 R+M/2 with ethanol

blame your government for the bad mileage, not the car

my overall mpg is over 28 for the first 2k miles, and i have been driving very agressively during the breakin period, full throttle to 4500 rpm for first 1200miles and then full throttle progressively building to redline over the next 600 miles

i see 34-36 mpg at 65-70 without ethanol and 28-30 with ethanol

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Our MY2012 Cooper SD All4 manual now has 4k on it and we're getting 44.6mpg. Well below the advertised.

Some may have seen recent comments in the UK motoring press that the EU & US, along with other interested parties, have just started work on a new more 'representative' method of working out the economy figures which it is intended, will come into force from 2015. Of course it will also show that emissions are higher than the current test implies. Lots of political embarrassment , and I suspect large amounts of 'spin' coming our way.

The UK Department for Transport has even said that the current system should be used for 'comparative purposes' rather than as examples of actual real world figures! Well gee, that's nice of them!! Why didn't they actually design a proper test in the first place!

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