After a horrid 14 months I have decided to bin the Countryman Cooper SD all4 Auto, I was really looking forward to taking delivery of Winnie and having a few years of great motoring ahead, wow, how wrong could i have been.
The car that I test drove, which made my decision easy could only have been another brand with a MINI body on top as My car turned out nothing like it, and is without doubt the worst car I have ever owned
The diesel is louder than a tractor and can be heard down the road.
Has worse fuel consumption than an Aston Martin (yes i am aware of MPG in an AM)
Has the most awful auto box ever encountered, refusing to change gear, even when using the paddles at 3,000+rpm.
Has a fuel consumption record that would be illegal in the US, claimed against actual, and I drive very economically.
Has the hardest suspension set ups this side of an F1 car and wants to rip your spine out.
Has more hard plastics inside than 1970's Granada.
The Bluetooth fails EVERYtime to connect until i manually do it.
The seats wouldnt support a family of illegal immigrants as they are far to hard.
Has the 2nd worse hand brake lever ever encountered (MG6 has the worse).
For a top of the range car, it has less kit than a standard family hatchback.
Very limited to none covered storage, especially as it is a family orientated car.
The fuel consumption is teh main issue for me, yes I know it is a 4x4 and an auto, but no matter how I drive it I get nowhere near that "claimed" (less 10%) figure that MINI state, it is the most uncomfortable, on anything other than a local drive, car ever driven, try a 1977 vauxhall Viva 1.3 deluxe, and then you will know who poor the Mini is.
I am in the process of trying a vast number of alternatives
To name but a few, but it is looking like the Yeti, B-Max or Volvo, but my overall feeling is I will have nearly anything just to get rid of this supposed quality car, it is far from that, and thats a shame, MINI tries to give it's self a good reputation for a decent car, and this one in my opinion has failed to live up to that.
I am sure that there are a vast number of people that are happy with their cars and I am pleased for them, but my experiences are far from that and I would appreciate that if you don't agree, please accept my opinions and not flame for them.
Wouldn't but a countryman as to be honest in think they look horrible. But I have to say I have had two minis now one cooper s and one jcw just the classic style mini and both have been the most fun to drive reliable cars I have owned.
Mine so far has been reasonable.
I fixed a slightly mushroomed strut (by a previous owner, and common BMW issue), and when changing the suspension found that the rear shocks were dead.
And when replacing the suspension I had the dreaded hub pinch bolt shear - VERY BAD design.
Any one of those things make it the most unreliable car I've owned - but then I've had 4 Japanese cars, they seem to know how to build & design cars
Would agree about the mpg being dire... 30mpg in my cooper s! Also that the plastics are a bit cheap inside, but the car you test drove wouldnt have been any different in that respect.
As for the ride and handling, i dont agree with you there. Love the way mine handles and chucking it round bends. Its probably the most fun car ive driven actually. I also dont have any problems with the seats. Never had a problem with the bluetooth (maybe its your phone - mines a galaxy s3) and the handbrake doesnt cause me any problems either.
However, wouldnt buy another one as the fuel consumption is terrible and the car has been plagued with niggly faults. In fact, my dad who was considering buying a normal mini has been put off buying one because of my experiences.
Virtually every car on the planet will never match the figures that the government test produces; manufacturers build their cars to perform all their party tricks to perform brilliantly in the artificial conditions of the test, not normal road use. Blame the government's test for being irrelevant and ignore the official MPG figures, they are worthless - even when comparing cars.
However, just how bad was the MPG in real life?
It's a shame (if understandable) for your dad to dismiss all MINIs on the weaknesses of your own Clubman. The Cowley built MINIs are really very different from this odd looking, contract built, Austrian oddball.
Be very careful if choosing a Citroen diesel; two friends have had some catastrophic problems with DPF's on 1.6D Citroen DS3's - even those that do long motorway journeys. Both have been traded long before the warranty ran out.
May '04 - Feb '07 R50, Feb '07 - May '10 R53. Enjoyed our time with MINI's, but ran out of space! Now Focus RS, Triumph Tiger 1200 & Land Rover powered...
I have to say that the fuel economy on my Dooper was very disappointing when I got it, no where near what the manufacturers figures quoted, even allowing for them being obtained in a vacuum.
It had done just on 5000 miles when I got it, it has now done just under 25k and the economy has shot up. Did a 120 mile round trip this week with 4 of us in the car and a fair bit of spirited driving on dual carriage way and some country lanes and got 58mpg. Just driven down to my other half's on A and B roads and got 64mpg so I'm not complaining about that.
You know this is the Countryman section of the Forum? I'm assuming you're talking about a mini r56 etc?
If you're saying you got that mpg from a Countryman than I would say, take it back to the dealer & get the MPG thing recalibrated, because its lieing to you. Those figures you quoted are only attainable by the manufacturer in very specific conditions.
Your list is hardly a list of problems, or for that matter stuff you wouldn't have picked up from the test drive
I've had 2 Mini's, now I drive a BMW 116i Sport (The new one, had from new on a 12 plate) in 14 months I've been back to the dealers over 20 times, have had around 14 different problems solved under warranty claims but the car has been a headache. I now desperately want to come back to Mini and get a Countryman or Paceman and I'm stuck in a PCP with massive Neg Equity regretting the BMW Purchase!
I wish MPG was my only problem
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