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Old Mar 17th, 2014, 10:41 AM
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Roadster UK problems

I am in the UK and about to buy a Roadster, can anyone in the UK give a heads up on any issues of keeping a soft top convertible outside in all weathers?

Any problems with ownership, noise, cold, flapping hoods etc.

I recall soft top sports cars from my yute and they were a pain, unless you were a committed sports car man, which I was back then, just not sure the wife understands the issues of keeping one on the drive

Any info appreciated.
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Old Mar 17th, 2014, 11:49 AM
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The Roadster hood needs no real care even if left outside year-round, as mine is.

You can indulge it to an occasional treatment with a roof cleaning/reproofing product (Mini sell one) but this really is only needed if you want to see rain bead on the fabric or you prefer cleaning to driving.

The one long term thing that reproofing will do is protect against mould growth that can occur on a fabric hood, particularly if regularly left unused, or parked under certain tree types.

A modern hood is as big a step forward from an older (say, Midget/Spitfire era) hood as a modern engine is from an engine of the same era. I don't think it is a good idea but for example a modern hood can go through a car wash without damage or leaks.
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I dont have the Roadster but the Convertible, I was very wary about getting a convertible with a fabric hood - heat insulation, noise insulation - fit but I am incredibly surprised with it. Yes, you get more road noise but that really is to be expected when you think that inside is not really sealed from where the hood joins the car.

As for heat insulation, granted I don't live in Canada and East Anglia is not renowned for it's arctic conditions but when it has been cold, the car has heated up nicely and stayed that way, and I am not one for driving in a coat and gloves.

I would imagine the Roadster has the same sort of hood.
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Its Lime trees you need to avoid parking it anywhere near, it will be growing green in no time.
You could always get a specialist car cover for it, I believe they can do ones that only cover the roof too?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mid Life Mini (original)
I would imagine the Roadster has the same sort of hood.

No, the Roadster has a single-layer roof, whereas the Convertible has a multi-layer roof with insulation (I believe) and an inner cosmetic lining so that you (mostly) don't see the frame.

The Roadster does have noticeably more roof-up wind noise (and noise of other vehicles!) than the Convertible but compared to an old-style Brit sports car hood it is hermetically sealed!

The single-layer Roadster roof has no heat impact that I've have felt (it's a small space, so heating it up isn't a big problem) but the extra noise is a nuisance.

The Roadster does also have more wind noise roof-down as the rear side windows of the Convertible do quite a bit of good against noise. But again, compared to an old-style sports car, the Roadster is light years ahead.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angib (original)
No, the Roadster has a single-layer roof, whereas the Convertible has a multi-layer roof with insulation (I believe) and an inner cosmetic lining so that you (mostly) don't see the frame.

The Roadster does have noticeably more roof-up wind noise (and noise of other vehicles!) than the Convertible but compared to an old-style Brit sports car hood it is hermetically sealed!

The single-layer Roadster roof has no heat impact that I've have felt (it's a small space, so heating it up isn't a big problem) but the extra noise is a nuisance.

The Roadster does also have more wind noise roof-down as the rear side windows of the Convertible do quite a bit of good against noise. But again, compared to an old-style sports car, the Roadster is light years ahead.

Hey, thanks for this, good to know as I will be looking to change my car next year and I will be looking to get a Roadster. Anything else upside/downside I need to know?
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The Roadster is definitely 'tauter' with the bulkhead behind the seats making the car stiffer and the scuttle shake that is fairly minor in the Convertible is pretty much absent in the Roadster. And of course the boot is much bigger.

Other than that, I think the Convertible is better in most ways. It's both quieter and less blustery roof-down, whereas I was hoping both of those things would be better in the Roadster. I find the loss of flexibility in the Roadster a nuisance - with the back seat and roof down, the Convertible can shift nearly anything.

I will be happy to go back to a Convertible when my Roadster needs replacing - which is useful as it looks likely it won't be replaced with a F56 variant.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angib (original)
The Roadster is definitely 'tauter' with the bulkhead behind the seats making the car stiffer and the scuttle shake that is fairly minor in the Convertible is pretty much absent in the Roadster. And of course the boot is much bigger.

Other than that, I think the Convertible is better in most ways. It's both quieter and less blustery roof-down, whereas I was hoping both of those things would be better in the Roadster. I find the loss of flexibility in the Roadster a nuisance - with the back seat and roof down, the Convertible can shift nearly anything.

I will be happy to go back to a Convertible when my Roadster needs replacing - which is useful as it looks likely it won't be replaced with a F56 variant.

Mmmm, definitely food for thought, thanks very much for that.
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