R56 MCS versus Clio 197 test in Evo

[PW/B_JCW210]

Latest Evo mag arrived in the post this morning, there is a comparison test in there between the R56 MCS, and the Clio 197.

The MINI gets 4.5 stars and the Clio 4.

Towards the end they say "the grippier, gruntier and more entertaining Cooper S deserves your attention".

Roll on the JCw version! It should be awesome

[Tonyt3]

Quote: Originally Posted by PW/B_JCW210 (original)

Latest Evo mag arrived in the post this morning, there is a comparison test in there between the R56 MCS, and the Clio 197.

The MINI gets 4.5 stars and the Clio 4.

Towards the end they say "the grippier, gruntier and more entertaining Cooper S deserves your attention".

Roll on the JCw version! It should be awesome

That is indeed a very good result, considering the clios bhp advantage.....

Would be interested to see if the new car has better brakes than the old, as the Clio has a great set of Brembo stoppers now....

[PW/B_JCW210]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 (original)

That is indeed a very good result, considering the clios bhp advantage.....

Would be interested to see if the new car has better brakes than the old, as the Clio has a great set of Brembo stoppers now....

Earlier in the article they describe a run going up and over a mountain, the MINI pulls away from the Clio even though it (the Clio) is being wrung out on the way up.

On the way down they appear to be evenly matched until the tarmac becomes steeper and more tortuous at which point the MINI eases away again.

They put this down to the greater torque of the MINI's engine, but I would say that if the MINI's brakes weren't as good as the Clio's then the two would have cancelled each other out, so it looks as if the brakes in the new MINI are probably almost as good as the Brembos in the Clio...

[M1OY CS]

Well i drove the new 197 on the weekend my friend has just got one and to tell you the truth i think the current cooper s is better. One thing i will say is them BREMBOs on the clio are very good.

[PGN-1]

Early scan on article? Mag coming to stores only next week, cant wait to see it.
How the new Mini fairs in Evo will largely deside whether I buy one next year.

[PW/B_JCW210]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGN-1 (original)

Early scan on article? Mag coming to stores only next week, cant wait to see it.
How the new Mini fairs in Evo will largely deside whether I buy one next year.

Sorry don't have a scanner

Sounds as if you are like me, I always reckon that if Evo rate something then it should be good!

[Martin F]

Quote: Originally Posted by PW/B_JCW210 (original)

so it looks as if the brakes in the new MINI are probably almost as good as the Brembos in the Clio...

My dealer has just told me that the R56 MCS has JCW brakes as standard. This was news to me but is consistent with comments on this thread. I hope he is right

[LMB]

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin F (original)

My dealer has just told me that the R56 MCS has JCW brakes as standard. This was news to me but is consistent with comments on this thread. I hope he is right

That's news to me also.

[PW/B_JCW210]

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB (original)

That's news to me also.

I thought that I had seen a comment somewhere else on MINI2 saying that the R56 was getting the JCW brakes as standard. That could explain why its brakes are on a par with the Brembos in the Clio.

[minigolf]

Quote: Originally Posted by PW/B_JCW210 (original)

Latest Evo mag arrived in the post this morning, there is a comparison test in there between the R56 MCS, and the Clio 197.

The MINI gets 4.5 stars and the Clio 4.

Towards the end they say "the grippier, gruntier and more entertaining Cooper S deserves your attention".

Roll on the JCw version! It should be awesome

Wow, that's a pretty good scalp for the MINI.

[Fabio]

Quote: Originally Posted by PW/B_JCW210 (original)

I thought that I had seen a comment somewhere else on MINI2 saying that the R56 was getting the JCW brakes as standard. That could explain why its brakes are on a par with the Brembos in the Clio.

are those brembos 4-pot??