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SNJ · Feb 27th, 2007, 09:50 AM

I read AUTOCAR yesterday in which it did a test of the top hot hatches. Although the Cooper S was in the group test it did not make it through to the top seven finalists, losing to cars such as the SEAT Cupra, Civic Type-R, Focus ST, Golf GTi, Clio 197, Audi S3, and the eventual winner, the Megane R26.

Should the Cooper S have been in this test considering it is a lot cheaper to buy than some of the other cars, and is less powerful too?

Personally I prefer the looks of the Cooper S - both inside and out, to the other cars. I like the S3 and the Golf GTi but they are in a different price bracket to the Mini (especially the S3).

I was disappointed to see that the S wasn't in the final though......

marx87 · Feb 27th, 2007, 10:07 AM

The s3 should be, to be fair, in a different class to the Mini based only on the fact of the price. Nothing to do with the drive or performance.

SNJ · Feb 27th, 2007, 03:22 PM

I could swear I posted this topic earlier today but cannot find the thread anywhere so I'm having another go! If this is a duplicate then MODS please delete.

Yesterday's AUTOCAR magazine had a big group test to see which is the best hot hatch.

Although the Cooper S was in the starting group it did not make the last seven, with cars like the Focus ST, Leon Cupra, Civic Type-R, Golf GTi, Clio 197, Audi S3 and (the winner) Megane R26 making the final stages.

I was disappointed that the Cooper S was not included - I think that it's much nicer inside and out than most of the other cars in the test, and I can't believe it lost out on the twisty roads to some of the cars. Another thing is that it has less BHP than many of the cars and is also cheaper (£27,000+ for the S3??) so maybe it shouldn't have been included or maybe some of the other cars shouldn't have been included!

Has anyone read the article and if so, any comments?

mister.t · Feb 27th, 2007, 03:28 PM

Its a terrible write up. I could do better IMO. Its £2600 cheaper than Civic too.

Griffer · Feb 27th, 2007, 03:52 PM

Who cares? If you are reading this forum and are an active subscriber you probably will buy the Cooper S anyway.

Paul · Feb 27th, 2007, 05:47 PM

I emailed explaining the last move, merged with your previous thread.

SNJ · Feb 27th, 2007, 06:22 PM

Thanks, Paul - I didn't see your email till I got home just now so thought I'd failed to click the submit button on the first one, hence my second post - doh!

Paul · Feb 27th, 2007, 06:39 PM

No problem.

Feb 27th, 2007, 09:50 AM	#1
SNJ MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SE London Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Autocar hot hatch test - Cooper S not even in top 7 I read AUTOCAR yesterday in which it did a test of the top hot hatches. Although the Cooper S was in the group test it did not make it through to the top seven finalists, losing to cars such as the SEAT Cupra, Civic Type-R, Focus ST, Golf GTi, Clio 197, Audi S3, and the eventual winner, the Megane R26. Should the Cooper S have been in this test considering it is a lot cheaper to buy than some of the other cars, and is less powerful too? Personally I prefer the looks of the Cooper S - both inside and out, to the other cars. I like the S3 and the Golf GTi but they are in a different price bracket to the Mini (especially the S3). I was disappointed to see that the S wasn't in the final though......

Feb 27th, 2007, 03:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
SNJ MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SE London Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 42 Offline	AUTOCAR group test - Cooper S fails to make last 7 I could swear I posted this topic earlier today but cannot find the thread anywhere so I'm having another go! If this is a duplicate then MODS please delete. Yesterday's AUTOCAR magazine had a big group test to see which is the best hot hatch. Although the Cooper S was in the starting group it did not make the last seven, with cars like the Focus ST, Leon Cupra, Civic Type-R, Golf GTi, Clio 197, Audi S3 and (the winner) Megane R26 making the final stages. I was disappointed that the Cooper S was not included - I think that it's much nicer inside and out than most of the other cars in the test, and I can't believe it lost out on the twisty roads to some of the cars. Another thing is that it has less BHP than many of the cars and is also cheaper (£27,000+ for the S3??) so maybe it shouldn't have been included or maybe some of the other cars shouldn't have been included! Has anyone read the article and if so, any comments?

Feb 27th, 2007, 03:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
mister.t Useless... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nowhere exciting Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 4,577 Offline	Its a terrible write up. I could do better IMO. Its £2600 cheaper than Civic too. A dream can only become a reality if you chase it... MINI2 Karting

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Feb 27th, 2007, 10:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
marx87 R56 MCS Works For Sale! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Carlisle UK Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 472 Offline	The s3 should be, to be fair, in a different class to the Mini based only on the fact of the price. Nothing to do with the drive or performance.

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Griffer Now Cooper D Clubman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Somerset Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 659 Offline	Who cares? If you are reading this forum and are an active subscriber you probably will buy the Cooper S anyway.

Feb 27th, 2007, 05:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 40,709 Offline	I emailed explaining the last move, merged with your previous thread.

Feb 27th, 2007, 06:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
SNJ MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SE London Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 42 Offline	Thanks, Paul - I didn't see your email till I got home just now so thought I'd failed to click the submit button on the first one, hence my second post - doh!

Feb 27th, 2007, 06:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 06:52 AM Posts: 40,709 Offline	No problem.

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