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Take a deep breath Paul and count to 10.

[Paul]

Seriously though, what a load of crap.

[zyo]

I used to like fifth gear when it wasn't trying to be edgey and 'wiv it' shakey cameras and all. The guy who was doing the clubman road test is useless and I haven't warmed to him since he first appeared. I don't mind the rest of the presenters but you have to wonder how much input they have to the show and it's 'style'. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it but don't want to loose the mother of all petrol head gigs. I mean the last series with Tim Lovejoy? nice bloke but who thought a chap that obviously doesn't have that much interest in cars and didn't like to travel quickly was the ideal bloke to front a motoring programme..
Presenters will quite often overlook a cars frailties if they really like it i.e Tom Ford and the Fiat 500. 'I know my knees are around my ears but if I say its roomy in the back people will believe me'...and to some extent the MINI, when it first came out there were a lot of problems which non of the journalists seemed to pick up on. I just wish they would go back to the old format with people road testing cars and leave the funny stuff to Top Gear. But you just know there is a Tarquin with a clipboard somewhere telling the fifth gear team how great it will be if they race a Lotus Elise against a Salmon rowing a boat to see who gets up stream first..."we will be as successful as Top Gear"...NO YOU WON'T

[Paul]

Exactly, Fifth Gear has become a cheap knock-off of Top Gear and there doesn't seem to be (from what I've seen) any genuine "car consumers" show left?

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

...there doesn't seem to be (from what I've seen) any genuine "car consumers" show left?

There aren't any

But you're not alone in wishing that there was...

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

Much as I love Top Gear, it's a shame there isn't something on TV any more that's more akin to the old style, that actually do proper reviews of cars that people actually buy without having to do silly stunts all the time

[Paul]

I don't miss it, I prefer to make my own mind up and do all buying research from asking friends and looking online. I've never taken the advice of a TV show on any buying decision. I like top gear as it's like a glossy mag for cars online. You don't really get much from it, apart from pretty pictures and silly jokes.

[Jordan210]

I wish i was getting payed to drive around nice cars and talk a load of crap !!!

Lend me a clubman il get a camera from college and i bet i could do a far better job then that !!!

I have not driven a lot of cars but i have driven a Hummer H3 and did not find the size any difference. So i dont see hwo he can cut people up with a 26 cm longer car !!!

[Shaun]

Pulling Power, Sunday 2PM, ITV4
Mike Brewer road-tests the new MINI Clubman and finds out how Lexus has created an orchestra using LS460s.

Short notice sorry!
Brewers always been a Mini Fan anyone else remember him reversing into a wall in one on Driven yeras ago?

[NicPlusOne]

Quote: Originally Posted by Shaun (original)

Pulling Power, Sunday 2PM, ITV4
Mike Brewer road-tests the new MINI Clubman and finds out how Lexus has created an orchestra using LS460s.

Short notice sorry!
Brewers always been a Mini Fan anyone else remember him reversing into a wall in one on Driven yeras ago?

I didn't see that but mike brewer is an absolute don. Have you seen the programmes he does on discovery like wheeler dealers, auto trader etc. they're amazing! (before i get told i have said this before )