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Paul · Oct 6th, 2007, 11:49 AM

"Let’s get something important out the way. The diesel Mini is no where near as good as the Cooper, S or even the One. But a small diesel will never (well maybe not never) be as good as a petrol equivalent so that’s not a fair comparison."

Mini Cooper D review Review - Pocket-lint.co.uk - gadget news and reviews

Each to their own I guess?!

iain cooper · Oct 6th, 2007, 02:00 PM

give it time, it's still early days.

Paul · Oct 6th, 2007, 02:03 PM

Personally I think the character of the Dooper is far better than the One and better than the Cooper. It's amazing how the diesel noise and the simple fact it's a diesel seems to have ruined the D for the reviewer. Lets ignore the performance, the torque and pull, the economy... It's still a diesel.

I think the summary makes it clear the Dooper didn't stand a chance:

"Small diesels are notoriously crap. This one isn’t but it’s no where near as much fun as its petrol-powered stablemates"

mikbmini · Oct 6th, 2007, 06:26 PM

I hafta say I had a diesel cooper for a couple of days and I was quite impressed with it. It was a world away from the old 2001 Clio DCi I owned a year ago. I also had a petrol R56 Cooper for 2 days, and IMO I preferred it slightly, but it was close. Still like my R53 Cooper S best of all though

That review does show how narrow minded some people are though. It really gets me annoyed when people hate things for no good reason.

mikbmini · Oct 6th, 2007, 06:34 PM

Plus whats that all about:

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I think this sums up how good the car reviews on this site are! Cos evryone considering buying a Cooper D is also probably looking at getting a soft top Porsche!

pbarclay · Oct 8th, 2007, 08:39 PM

I think Pocket Lint should stick to reviewing GPS systems and MP4 players and leave cars to proper motoring journalists. Mind you, I wouldn't choose a new computer by reading Autocar either.

I have changed from a 1st gen MINI Cooper S to a new MINI Cooper Diesel myself. There is no getting away from the fact that if I was asked to choose between the two as an all-expenses paid vehicle car, I would choose the Cooper S and enjoy having the extra bhp. But those halycon days of company motoring are long gone with all manner of taxes being determined by how green your car is. As a private motorist, I positively enjoy achieving an average 70 mpg on my motorway commute to work - it used to be 28 mpg in the Cooper S! The diesel is quieter than the Cooper S at 70 mph. The only time it makes a nasty noise is at tickover but the auto start stop sees to that very quickly as well.

But the most stupid statement of all is his "Small diesels are crap". I think the Dooper's engine is absolutely amazing. I still can't understand how I can cruise around town at 1000 rpm and generate sufficient torque to keep running smoothly, off turbo. If it was a great big 3.0 litre diesel engine, it would make sense but a small 1.6?

I rated the MINI Cooper diesel as 10/10 on their website. Strangely there was no way I could rate the reviewer...

Oct 6th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Poorest Dooper review ever? "Let’s get something important out the way. The diesel Mini is no where near as good as the Cooper, S or even the One. But a small diesel will never (well maybe not never) be as good as a petrol equivalent so that’s not a fair comparison." Mini Cooper D review Review - Pocket-lint.co.uk - gadget news and reviews Each to their own I guess?!

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Oct 6th, 2007, 02:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
iain cooper MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: near Glasgow Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 275 Offline	give it time, it's still early days.

Oct 6th, 2007, 02:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Personally I think the character of the Dooper is far better than the One and better than the Cooper. It's amazing how the diesel noise and the simple fact it's a diesel seems to have ruined the D for the reviewer. Lets ignore the performance, the torque and pull, the economy... It's still a diesel. I think the summary makes it clear the Dooper didn't stand a chance: "Small diesels are notoriously crap. This one isn’t but it’s no where near as much fun as its petrol-powered stablemates"

Oct 6th, 2007, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
mikbmini No MINI no more :( My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tunbridge Wells Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 245 Offline	I hafta say I had a diesel cooper for a couple of days and I was quite impressed with it. It was a world away from the old 2001 Clio DCi I owned a year ago. I also had a petrol R56 Cooper for 2 days, and IMO I preferred it slightly, but it was close. Still like my R53 Cooper S best of all though That review does show how narrow minded some people are though. It really gets me annoyed when people hate things for no good reason.

Oct 6th, 2007, 06:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
mikbmini No MINI no more :( My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tunbridge Wells Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 245 Offline	Plus whats that all about: You may also like... Honda Accord Tourer Auto Skoda Octavia TDi Cooper S Porsche 997 Carrera S Cabrio? NICE Electric Car I think this sums up how good the car reviews on this site are! Cos evryone considering buying a Cooper D is also probably looking at getting a soft top Porsche!

Oct 8th, 2007, 08:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
pbarclay MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hale, Cheshire Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 32 Offline	I think Pocket Lint should stick to reviewing GPS systems and MP4 players and leave cars to proper motoring journalists. Mind you, I wouldn't choose a new computer by reading Autocar either. I have changed from a 1st gen MINI Cooper S to a new MINI Cooper Diesel myself. There is no getting away from the fact that if I was asked to choose between the two as an all-expenses paid vehicle car, I would choose the Cooper S and enjoy having the extra bhp. But those halycon days of company motoring are long gone with all manner of taxes being determined by how green your car is. As a private motorist, I positively enjoy achieving an average 70 mpg on my motorway commute to work - it used to be 28 mpg in the Cooper S! The diesel is quieter than the Cooper S at 70 mph. The only time it makes a nasty noise is at tickover but the auto start stop sees to that very quickly as well. But the most stupid statement of all is his "Small diesels are crap". I think the Dooper's engine is absolutely amazing. I still can't understand how I can cruise around town at 1000 rpm and generate sufficient torque to keep running smoothly, off turbo. If it was a great big 3.0 litre diesel engine, it would make sense but a small 1.6? I rated the MINI Cooper diesel as 10/10 on their website. Strangely there was no way I could rate the reviewer...

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