MINI One vs Fiat 500 on 5th Gear tonight

[Prowse]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

The MINI is smaller than I think you think, it's dimensions are not considerably bigger than a Ford Ka, and quite a bit smaller than the Golf class of cars.

I'm amused that 5th Gear commented that the 500 has more room in the rear of the car. Not true. I (at 6' 2") can easily fit in any Mini. I do not fit at all in the 500, not even close, there is no rear headroom, I'd estimate anyone over 5'8" won't fit in the back.

Different class of car at the end of the day, not really in competition.

When the Arbarth comes out, I'm betting they'll pitch-it against the current Cooper, in which case the 500 will win again. Guess they won't want to lose all of that lovely advertising money from the Fiat group.


*** What would be interesting to see would be the lap times for the old MINI One, Cooper, Cooper S and JCW on similar spec tyres, etc.

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mark Elvin (original)

Not really true, as the 500 is the first small car to get an Ncap 5 star rating.

Well if its NCAP ratings that keep you on the road when cornering a bit too hard sometimes then the 500 is a much better car

[The Red Baron]

Is there still a repeat of the programme?

The last series was repeated at midnight on a Tuesday?

[mister.t]

Paul, when you say that both cars 'fail' as modern equivalents - I think the word fail can be held to the VW Beetle Besides, has there ever been a successful resurrection that was exactly the same as its predecessor? Once again, I like, and respect both cars greatly, I just prefer the Mini. Why? Because I can/do

[Shaun]

Predictable as Paul said.

Wonder if they are ever going to point out that many great road cars dont do well on racetracks and Vice Versa. Its totally unsubjective they dont even give a record of lap times to compare.

On the originality according to The Mail on Sunday the front engined fiat is a truer recreation of the original than the Mini.

I saw one of those Campers yesterday too I saw the 07 plate and did a double take.

[Paul]

Quote: Originally Posted by mister.t (original)

Paul, when you say that both cars 'fail' as modern equivalents - I think the word fail can be held to the VW Beetle Besides, has there ever been a successful resurrection that was exactly the same as its predecessor? Once again, I like, and respect both cars greatly, I just prefer the Mini. Why? Because I can/do

I said it could be argued they both fail, not they both do. I think they both work really well, in different ways, as modern interpretations of an old classic.

Now, if they made a modern/retro camper van that looks anything like some of the concepts they've come up with, powered in carrot juice or some such eco-fuel, then sign me up too!

[Shaun]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul (original)

I said it could be argued they both fail, not they both do. I think they both work really well, in different ways, as modern interpretations of an old classic.

Now, if they made a modern/retro camper van that looks anything like some of the concepts they've come up with, powered in carrot juice or some such eco-fuel, then sign me up too!

oh yeah
http://www.autospies.com/images/user...t-1280x960.jpg

[Smokingkills]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

Well if its NCAP ratings that keep you on the road when cornering a bit too hard sometimes then the 500 is a much better car

Ncap won't keep it on the road if you take a corner a little too hard. But the new Bosch 8.1 abs system will! 500 really is a fantastically safe, agile car.

Still find it pointless putting the 2 1.4s against each other. Cooper S Vs Abarth now thats the interesting one. Fiat need to pull their finger out and hurry up release it.

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smokingkills (original)

Ncap won't keep it on the road if you take a corner a little too hard.

It takes a while to get used to when Goonery is being sarcastic or not, but once you do it's pretty obvious!

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

It takes a while to get used to when Goonery is being sarcastic or not, but once you do it's pretty obvious!

Sarcasm is apparently the lowest form of wit, but at least it is wit

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

Sarcasm is apparently the lowest form of wit, but at least it is wit

How can it be the lowest form when stupid people rarely understand it?

[Goonery]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

How can it be the lowest form when stupid people rarely understand it?

Its only just above what stupid people understand, but I aim to be all inclusive instead of mutually exclusive.

Sorry abot the off topic stuff here , but I'm happy to indulge my good friend Scrogg whom I regard as an intellect almost on a par with my own

[Scrogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

I'm happy to indulge my good friend Scrogg whom I regard as an intellect almost on a par with my own

[Goonery]

We've killed a thread between us

[Scrogg]

It didn't take much!

Shall we do another one?