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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #1
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MINI One vs Fiat 500 on 5th Gear tonight

Just in case anyone is interested 5th Gear on Channel 5 tonight at 8pm will be doing a test between the MINI one and the Fiat 500.

Should be interesting to see the result....
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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 05:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Five have seemed very much in cahoots with Fiat, and although I think this is an unfair contest based on price of the vehicles, I would be very surprised to see the 500 come out less than favourably.
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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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also testing the nissan gtr.

saw my first 500 today and liked it more than I though but not in a MINI way

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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If it's anything like the last 5th Gear road tests of the MINI Cooper D and Clubman it will tell us nothing useful about the cars but this time it might be different....................
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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 07:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Fiat 500 wins.





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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 08:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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missed that bit

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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I thought there would have been a bit more than that - was not much coverage!

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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. Shows how good a standard MINI is. But to be fair to the Fiat, Vicki did say it felt more 'alive'. I can't wait for the test between the Abarth SS and the Cooper S.

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Old Feb 25th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I never really thought much of 5th Gear. TBH the 500 surely shouldn't be put up against Mini due to how small it is.

I'm going of topic but I don't think much of those 2 baffoons who can't even drive who where doing the VW campers. They just rip of other shows but there comps are good.
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Old Feb 26th, 2008, 12:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
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500 will be a lot quicker to the scrap yard

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but smile when you shove them down the stairs
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Old Feb 26th, 2008, 01:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Is the show repeated?

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Old Feb 26th, 2008, 06:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)
Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. Shows how good a standard MINI is. But to be fair to the Fiat, Vicki did say it felt more 'alive'. I can't wait for the test between the Abarth SS and the Cooper S.

I think 'more alive' means more likely to leave you less alive
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Old Feb 26th, 2008, 06:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The show is repeated on saturday morning, At 10.45.


All i ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)
Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track.

I don't know, I can see their point. What their saying is "For around £xxxxx you can have a MINI or a 500 and the 500 goes round the track better, so if that's what you're after (performace), the Fiat is better value for money"
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I learnt to drive in an R56 One, and it was a hoot to drive, but it felt quite slow. I've driven the Cooper now, and despite the One giving away 0.2 litres and 25bhp, it feels like a lot more - The Cooper has a lot more in gear acceleration and more shove mid-top end. IMO, I believe the 500 only makes sense as a more basic version - I personally wouldn't spend more than £9.5k on one (and thats top end, it'd have to be very special), thats until the Abarth comes out - Which could be as much as £14k. I have huge respect for peoples decisions, if they want to spend £x on a 500, then good luck to them, I hope you enjoy it! Some people would say I'm mad because I would (when I've saved up) spend a lot of money on a Mini - To them its a lot of money for a Mini, but to me, it isn't - Its what I really want and hanker after, and its the same in the 500 camp. I love the 500, its a great little car, but the Mini clinches it for me, it feels more special and I have always had something to do with Mini.

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Old Feb 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)
Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. .

And the fact that they are both 1400's has nothing to do with it of course. I fail to see your argument, pride taken a bit of a bump?

Fact is, the 1400 500 is quicker that the 1400 Mini, whilst being around £1000 cheaper.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)
I think 'more alive' means more likely to leave you less alive

Not really true, as the 500 is the first small car to get an Ncap 5 star rating.
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Actually, with the spec of the press MINIs, I imagine the price difference (and also weight difference) was considerably more than £1k. The 500 comes with a lot more kit as standard vis-a-vis the MINI.
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Quote: Originally Posted by MarkXR (original)
also testing the nissan gtr.

saw my first 500 today and liked it more than I though but not in a MINI way

Oh, that'll be because it's actually made by the same company as the original one!!!!
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