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Yeoda · Feb 25th, 2008, 04:13 PM

Just in case anyone is interested 5th Gear on Channel 5 tonight at 8pm will be doing a test between the MINI one and the Fiat 500.

Should be interesting to see the result....

Paul · Feb 25th, 2008, 05:30 PM

Five have seemed very much in cahoots with Fiat, and although I think this is an unfair contest based on price of the vehicles, I would be very surprised to see the 500 come out less than favourably.

MarkXR · Feb 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM

also testing the nissan gtr.

saw my first 500 today and liked it more than I though but not in a MINI way

mab01uk · Feb 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM

If it's anything like the last 5th Gear road tests of the MINI Cooper D and Clubman it will tell us nothing useful about the cars but this time it might be different....................

Paul · Feb 25th, 2008, 07:22 PM

Fiat 500 wins.

Told you so.

MarkXR · Feb 25th, 2008, 08:09 PM

missed that bit

ben__allen · Feb 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM

I thought there would have been a bit more than that - was not much coverage!

Lawrothegreat · Feb 25th, 2008, 08:58 PM

Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. Shows how good a standard MINI is. But to be fair to the Fiat, Vicki did say it felt more 'alive'. I can't wait for the test between the Abarth SS and the Cooper S.

Hugo · Feb 25th, 2008, 09:55 PM

I never really thought much of 5th Gear. TBH the 500 surely shouldn't be put up against Mini due to how small it is.

I'm going of topic but I don't think much of those 2 baffoons who can't even drive who where doing the VW campers. They just rip of other shows but there comps are good.

SteveM3 · Feb 26th, 2008, 12:52 AM

500 will be a lot quicker to the scrap yard

LMB · Feb 26th, 2008, 01:36 AM

Is the show repeated?

Goonery · Feb 26th, 2008, 06:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)

Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. Shows how good a standard MINI is. But to be fair to the Fiat, Vicki did say it felt more 'alive'. I can't wait for the test between the Abarth SS and the Cooper S.

I think 'more alive' means more likely to leave you less alive

steve cooper s · Feb 26th, 2008, 06:22 AM

The show is repeated on saturday morning, At 10.45.

Paul · Feb 26th, 2008, 09:04 AM

See it here: Fiat 500 versus MINI One track shoot out on YouTube · NF500 For a while at least!

Fizzoid · Feb 26th, 2008, 09:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)

Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track.

I don't know, I can see their point. What their saying is "For around £xxxxx you can have a MINI or a 500 and the 500 goes round the track better, so if that's what you're after (performace), the Fiat is better value for money"

mister.t · Feb 26th, 2008, 10:48 AM

I learnt to drive in an R56 One, and it was a hoot to drive, but it felt quite slow. I've driven the Cooper now, and despite the One giving away 0.2 litres and 25bhp, it feels like a lot more - The Cooper has a lot more in gear acceleration and more shove mid-top end. IMO, I believe the 500 only makes sense as a more basic version - I personally wouldn't spend more than £9.5k on one (and thats top end, it'd have to be very special), thats until the Abarth comes out - Which could be as much as £14k. I have huge respect for peoples decisions, if they want to spend £x on a 500, then good luck to them, I hope you enjoy it! Some people would say I'm mad because I would (when I've saved up) spend a lot of money on a Mini - To them its a lot of money for a Mini, but to me, it isn't - Its what I really want and hanker after, and its the same in the 500 camp. I love the 500, its a great little car, but the Mini clinches it for me, it feels more special and I have always had something to do with Mini.

Mark Elvin · Feb 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original)

Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. .

And the fact that they are both 1400's has nothing to do with it of course. I fail to see your argument, pride taken a bit of a bump?

Fact is, the 1400 500 is quicker that the 1400 Mini, whilst being around £1000 cheaper.

Mark Elvin · Feb 26th, 2008, 12:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

I think 'more alive' means more likely to leave you less alive

Not really true, as the 500 is the first small car to get an Ncap 5 star rating.

Paul · Feb 26th, 2008, 12:28 PM

Actually, with the spec of the press MINIs, I imagine the price difference (and also weight difference) was considerably more than £1k. The 500 comes with a lot more kit as standard vis-a-vis the MINI.

Mark Elvin · Feb 26th, 2008, 12:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkXR (original)

also testing the nissan gtr.

saw my first 500 today and liked it more than I though but not in a MINI way

Oh, that'll be because it's actually made by the same company as the original one!!!!

Feb 25th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#1
Yeoda It's good to torque! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frome, Somerset Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 269 Offline	MINI One vs Fiat 500 on 5th Gear tonight Just in case anyone is interested 5th Gear on Channel 5 tonight at 8pm will be doing a test between the MINI one and the Fiat 500. Should be interesting to see the result.... www.mendipminis.co.uk

Feb 25th, 2008, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 46,076 Offline	Five have seemed very much in cahoots with Fiat, and although I think this is an unfair contest based on price of the vehicles, I would be very surprised to see the 500 come out less than favourably. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Feb 25th, 2008, 07:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 46,076 Offline	Fiat 500 wins. Told you so. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Feb 26th, 2008, 12:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
SteveM3 MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malmesbury, Wilts Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 1,757 Offline	500 will be a lot quicker to the scrap yard Some people are like a Slinky ........ not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs

Feb 26th, 2008, 01:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 27,990 Offline	Is the show repeated? Global Moderator

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Feb 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
MarkXR XR3i / JCW MCS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Full Throttle Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 217 Offline	also testing the nissan gtr. saw my first 500 today and liked it more than I though but not in a MINI way

Feb 25th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
mab01uk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 466 Offline	If it's anything like the last 5th Gear road tests of the MINI Cooper D and Clubman it will tell us nothing useful about the cars but this time it might be different....................

Feb 25th, 2008, 08:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
MarkXR XR3i / JCW MCS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Full Throttle Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 217 Offline	missed that bit

Feb 25th, 2008, 08:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
ben__allen Dooper is the dogz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lancaster Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 1,395 Offline	I thought there would have been a bit more than that - was not much coverage!

Feb 25th, 2008, 08:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lawrothegreat Mini Design Philosopher Join Date: May 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 732 Offline	Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. Shows how good a standard MINI is. But to be fair to the Fiat, Vicki did say it felt more 'alive'. I can't wait for the test between the Abarth SS and the Cooper S.

Feb 25th, 2008, 09:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norn Iron Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 2,172 Offline	I never really thought much of 5th Gear. TBH the 500 surely shouldn't be put up against Mini due to how small it is. I'm going of topic but I don't think much of those 2 baffoons who can't even drive who where doing the VW campers. They just rip of other shows but there comps are good.

Feb 26th, 2008, 06:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
Goonery MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 13,602 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original) Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. Shows how good a standard MINI is. But to be fair to the Fiat, Vicki did say it felt more 'alive'. I can't wait for the test between the Abarth SS and the Cooper S. I think 'more alive' means more likely to leave you less alive

Feb 26th, 2008, 06:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
steve cooper s you twisting my melon Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: surrey. Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 23 Offline	The show is repeated on saturday morning, At 10.45. All i ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Last edited by steve cooper s : Feb 26th, 2008 at 06:25 AM. Reason: changed time

Feb 26th, 2008, 09:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 46,076 Offline	See it here: Fiat 500 versus MINI One track shoot out on YouTube · NF500 For a while at least! Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Feb 26th, 2008, 09:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
Fizzoid MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 144 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original) Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. Given the Fiat has more power and weighs 200kg less it should have been more than one second quicker than the MINI around the track. I don't know, I can see their point. What their saying is "For around £xxxxx you can have a MINI or a 500 and the 500 goes round the track better, so if that's what you're after (performace), the Fiat is better value for money"

Feb 26th, 2008, 10:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
mister.t Ambitious, but useless Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nowhere exciting Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 1,838 Offline	I learnt to drive in an R56 One, and it was a hoot to drive, but it felt quite slow. I've driven the Cooper now, and despite the One giving away 0.2 litres and 25bhp, it feels like a lot more - The Cooper has a lot more in gear acceleration and more shove mid-top end. IMO, I believe the 500 only makes sense as a more basic version - I personally wouldn't spend more than £9.5k on one (and thats top end, it'd have to be very special), thats until the Abarth comes out - Which could be as much as £14k. I have huge respect for peoples decisions, if they want to spend £x on a 500, then good luck to them, I hope you enjoy it! Some people would say I'm mad because I would (when I've saved up) spend a lot of money on a Mini - To them its a lot of money for a Mini, but to me, it isn't - Its what I really want and hanker after, and its the same in the 500 camp. I love the 500, its a great little car, but the Mini clinches it for me, it feels more special and I have always had something to do with Mini. 2007 R56 Cooper

Feb 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mark Elvin MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Lawrothegreat (original) Don't get me wrong the 500 seems like a great little car, but pitching the fastest 500 against the slowest MINI (just because they're the closest in pricing) is not the basis for a track test. . And the fact that they are both 1400's has nothing to do with it of course. I fail to see your argument, pride taken a bit of a bump? Fact is, the 1400 500 is quicker that the 1400 Mini, whilst being around £1000 cheaper.

Feb 26th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mark Elvin MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original) I think 'more alive' means more likely to leave you less alive Not really true, as the 500 is the first small car to get an Ncap 5 star rating.

Feb 26th, 2008, 12:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 11:20 PM Posts: 46,076 Offline	Actually, with the spec of the press MINIs, I imagine the price difference (and also weight difference) was considerably more than £1k. The 500 comes with a lot more kit as standard vis-a-vis the MINI. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Feb 26th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mark Elvin MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 10:20 PM Posts: 5 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkXR (original) also testing the nissan gtr. saw my first 500 today and liked it more than I though but not in a MINI way Oh, that'll be because it's actually made by the same company as the original one!!!!

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