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G8BAD_COOPER · May 21st, 2002, 04:02 AM

I am thinking very seriously in buying an original mini and a trailer and use it for hill climbs, sprints etc.....

does anyone have any experiance of this? who i should get in touch with to get a licence (if i need one)

ive got a budget of about £3000 to get started (is that enough)????

any advice or past experience would be great.

Thanx in advance
Lee

Racer · May 21st, 2002, 04:17 AM

Lee

As it happens I've got a classic sitting waiting for the same to be done! - never happened bought the club -sport instead - If you're interested PM me

With regard to liciences etc. If you are only doing hillclimbs and sprints you will need a non-race national B (I don't think you even have to do an ARDS course for that) just phone MSA or go to web site msa.org

£3000 would be plenty regs are pretty relaxed and you can be cometitive in most cars - At Wiscombe one guy ran a Citreon BX diesel estate! and won his class

monsta · May 21st, 2002, 04:22 AM

Lee,

You should get in touch with the Southern Mini Owners Club, there are a few people who race their minis in hillclimbs and stuff like that.

Post on their message board: www.miniboard.co.uk

http://www.smocweb.demon.co.uk/pics/racer.jpg

G8BAD_COOPER · May 21st, 2002, 04:33 AM

cheers Racer,

before i start looking at particular mini's to buy, i'd like to do my research etc... to know what i'll be getting into. im going to be looking to start in around 2 1/2 to 3 monthes...

although if you have any pictures of your mini, that could interest me......

Lee.

P.S
thanx monsta i'll check it out...

G8BAD_COOPER · May 21st, 2002, 05:11 AM

does anyone know of a web site that sells car trailers please????

Dom · May 21st, 2002, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER
does anyone know of a web site that sells car trailers please????

You could try looking in your autotrader to similar...

Dom

AndyW · May 21st, 2002, 08:03 AM

And you could come along to Abingdon to see the sprint there on 8th June - there'll be plenty of other cars (prob including Mini's as well as our MINI's) - that'll give you some clues as to what to do, and people there will no doubt be glad to give you some pointers.

G8BAD_COOPER · May 21st, 2002, 08:11 AM

yeah i might just do that, only prob is that im going to Beaulieu on Sunday and i was 'trying' to keep the mileage down.... anyway where is it exactly?? a post code would be great so i can look it up on the web...

Cheers
Lee.

P.S
Already looked at the trailers and £1500.00 would buy me a good one...

P.P.S
Does anyone know the maximum (braked) weight the Cooper can tow??

ELISEBOY · May 21st, 2002, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Racer
At Wiscombe one guy ran a Citreon BX diesel estate! and won his class

that may of had something to do with the fact that he was the only one in his class

if i remember rightly his Mrs ran a Golf up the hill

Racer · May 21st, 2002, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER
does anyone know of a web site that sells car trailers please????

Brian James trailers have a web site very informative but far easier to call them they are very good

R

Racer · May 21st, 2002, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ELISEBOY

that may of had something to do with the fact that he was the only one in his class

if i remember rightly his Mrs ran a Golf up the hill

Small details bloody paparazi journalists

nobody listen to him he's a reporter

ELISEBOY · May 21st, 2002, 05:10 PM

G8BAD_COOPER · May 22nd, 2002, 03:41 AM

thanx everyone for your help

Ive looked into what championships are avalible and ive seen on http://www.mini7.co.uk the mini miglia challenge which looks quite good.... 0-60 in 3.5s is appealing aswell...

but i'd love to do the JC Challenge but i just cant afford to buy another mini...

also looked at the Caterham 7 one make race series.... but both this and the mini miglia challenge are only round tracks (not a bad thing though) but i'd like to get involved in something that has a mixture of events (just like the JCC) sprints, Hill Climbs and track races aswell....

ELISEBOY · May 22nd, 2002, 04:49 AM

well i think that you have answered your own question there then

save up and join the challenge next year

well worth waiting for

G8BAD_COOPER · May 22nd, 2002, 04:58 AM

Quote:

save up and join the challenge next year

save?

save £20,000!!! i could never do that....

Racer · May 22nd, 2002, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER
thanx everyone for your help

Ive looked into what championships are avalible and ive seen on http://www.mini7.co.uk the mini miglia challenge which looks quite good.... 0-60 in 3.5s is appealing aswell...

but i'd love to do the JC Challenge but i just cant afford to buy another mini...

also looked at the Caterham 7 one make race series.... but both this and the mini miglia challenge are only round tracks (not a bad thing though) but i'd like to get involved in something that has a mixture of events (just like the JCC) sprints, Hill Climbs and track races aswell....

I used to do some support work for the mini7 and it's very 'car' based as opposed to driver - If you like tinkering and stuff great - Miglia is serious and expensive business be warned

Plus on the down side there was 1 death and a couple of very serious injuries last year which has made it slightly less popular

Any questions about it let me know I'll try and help

I considered it for a couple of years before the JCC -

G

G8BAD_COOPER · May 22nd, 2002, 07:42 AM

oh

cheers Racer

I didnt realise that it was that dangerous, all i want is a 'cheap' form of motorsport that i can enjoy and play around with the car.... with minimal expence.

MINI7 seem to think that this is an affordable motorsport (although 'affordable' can only be determined by the amount of 'wedge' that the person has who wrote it...)

still undceided on what i should do... but now that you said that, i might look more seriously at the Caterham 7's. but it would be nice to keep the mini thing going...

Hmmmm decisions decisions????

Racer · May 22nd, 2002, 07:48 AM

The Miglias just got faster and faster and became very expensive - I know this year they have moved the seats improved them and reduced the track width (of the car)

I'm sure you would have an excellent time in them but unless you bought and maintained at top place car you would struggle

Now Caterhams - well I looked at them as well - IMHO (at this present time) I think that the Caterham Academy is run much better than the JCC (but it is JCC first year and there is obviously a learning curve + I havn't been a competitor in Cats' so I might be being unfair)

However they too have a somewhat dodgy history of personal injury (lack of roof and sides doesn't help)

The fact that the JCC used brand new cars prepared to highest std convinced me that whilst motor racing is generally dangerous JCC was about as safe as it could be for a novice

Caterhams will probably cost about the same as JCC all in

Perhaps you should convert your existing car to Club Sport spec and ask if you can race in non-points scoring scenario later this year ready for next year?
G

Racer · May 22nd, 2002, 07:50 AM

Have you checked out Hot or Stock Hatch(750MC) championships - Std 205GTi say £1500 would do well in stock hatch

G8BAD_COOPER · May 22nd, 2002, 07:58 AM

well i'd love to do the JCC but (although i could afford to mine converted) i couldnt really afford the extra insurance or if i stacked it!!

the good thing about the Cat7's is that because its been going for a while i should be able to pick up a second hand race prepared one?? that should sort out the money problems with that.

whats this Hot/Stock Hatch about then?? do you have a web address to find out more??

May 21st, 2002, 04:02 AM	#1
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	Original mini hill climb, ADVICE PLEASE... I am thinking very seriously in buying an original mini and a trailer and use it for hill climbs, sprints etc..... does anyone have any experiance of this? who i should get in touch with to get a licence (if i need one) ive got a budget of about £3000 to get started (is that enough)???? any advice or past experience would be great. Thanx in advance Lee

May 21st, 2002, 04:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Lee As it happens I've got a classic sitting waiting for the same to be done! - never happened bought the club -sport instead - If you're interested PM me With regard to liciences etc. If you are only doing hillclimbs and sprints you will need a non-race national B (I don't think you even have to do an ARDS course for that) just phone MSA or go to web site msa.org £3000 would be plenty regs are pretty relaxed and you can be cometitive in most cars - At Wiscombe one guy ran a Citreon BX diesel estate! and won his class JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 21st, 2002, 04:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
monsta MINI2 Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brighton Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 4,669 Offline	Lee, You should get in touch with the Southern Mini Owners Club, there are a few people who race their minis in hillclimbs and stuff like that. Post on their message board: www.miniboard.co.uk http://www.smocweb.demon.co.uk/pics/racer.jpg the MINI has gone...

May 21st, 2002, 04:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER does anyone know of a web site that sells car trailers please???? Brian James trailers have a web site very informative but far easier to call them they are very good R JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 21st, 2002, 04:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by ELISEBOY that may of had something to do with the fact that he was the only one in his class if i remember rightly his Mrs ran a Golf up the hill Small details bloody paparazi journalists nobody listen to him he's a reporter JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

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May 21st, 2002, 04:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	cheers Racer, before i start looking at particular mini's to buy, i'd like to do my research etc... to know what i'll be getting into. im going to be looking to start in around 2 1/2 to 3 monthes... although if you have any pictures of your mini, that could interest me...... Lee. P.S thanx monsta i'll check it out...

May 21st, 2002, 05:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	does anyone know of a web site that sells car trailers please????

May 21st, 2002, 05:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dom Test thread infiltrator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Swindon Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 8,543 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER does anyone know of a web site that sells car trailers please???? You could try looking in your autotrader to similar... Dom

May 21st, 2002, 08:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
AndyW Ex-Mini2 Racer & Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Surrey Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 568 Offline	And you could come along to Abingdon to see the sprint there on 8th June - there'll be plenty of other cars (prob including Mini's as well as our MINI's) - that'll give you some clues as to what to do, and people there will no doubt be glad to give you some pointers.

May 21st, 2002, 08:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	yeah i might just do that, only prob is that im going to Beaulieu on Sunday and i was 'trying' to keep the mileage down.... anyway where is it exactly?? a post code would be great so i can look it up on the web... Cheers Lee. P.S Already looked at the trailers and £1500.00 would buy me a good one... P.P.S Does anyone know the maximum (braked) weight the Cooper can tow??

May 21st, 2002, 01:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
ELISEBOY MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 2,163 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Racer At Wiscombe one guy ran a Citreon BX diesel estate! and won his class that may of had something to do with the fact that he was the only one in his class if i remember rightly his Mrs ran a Golf up the hill

May 21st, 2002, 05:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
ELISEBOY MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 2,163 Offline	LOL

May 22nd, 2002, 03:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	thanx everyone for your help Ive looked into what championships are avalible and ive seen on http://www.mini7.co.uk the mini miglia challenge which looks quite good.... 0-60 in 3.5s is appealing aswell... but i'd love to do the JC Challenge but i just cant afford to buy another mini... also looked at the Caterham 7 one make race series.... but both this and the mini miglia challenge are only round tracks (not a bad thing though) but i'd like to get involved in something that has a mixture of events (just like the JCC) sprints, Hill Climbs and track races aswell....

May 22nd, 2002, 04:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
ELISEBOY MINI2 Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 2,163 Offline	well i think that you have answered your own question there then save up and join the challenge next year well worth waiting for

May 22nd, 2002, 04:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	Quote: save up and join the challenge next year save? save £20,000!!! i could never do that....

May 22nd, 2002, 07:33 AM	#16 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by G8BAD_COOPER thanx everyone for your help Ive looked into what championships are avalible and ive seen on http://www.mini7.co.uk the mini miglia challenge which looks quite good.... 0-60 in 3.5s is appealing aswell... but i'd love to do the JC Challenge but i just cant afford to buy another mini... also looked at the Caterham 7 one make race series.... but both this and the mini miglia challenge are only round tracks (not a bad thing though) but i'd like to get involved in something that has a mixture of events (just like the JCC) sprints, Hill Climbs and track races aswell.... I used to do some support work for the mini7 and it's very 'car' based as opposed to driver - If you like tinkering and stuff great - Miglia is serious and expensive business be warned Plus on the down side there was 1 death and a couple of very serious injuries last year which has made it slightly less popular Any questions about it let me know I'll try and help I considered it for a couple of years before the JCC - G JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 22nd, 2002, 07:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	oh cheers Racer I didnt realise that it was that dangerous, all i want is a 'cheap' form of motorsport that i can enjoy and play around with the car.... with minimal expence. MINI7 seem to think that this is an affordable motorsport (although 'affordable' can only be determined by the amount of 'wedge' that the person has who wrote it...) still undceided on what i should do... but now that you said that, i might look more seriously at the Caterham 7's. but it would be nice to keep the mini thing going... Hmmmm decisions decisions????

May 22nd, 2002, 07:48 AM	#18 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	The Miglias just got faster and faster and became very expensive - I know this year they have moved the seats improved them and reduced the track width (of the car) I'm sure you would have an excellent time in them but unless you bought and maintained at top place car you would struggle Now Caterhams - well I looked at them as well - IMHO (at this present time) I think that the Caterham Academy is run much better than the JCC (but it is JCC first year and there is obviously a learning curve + I havn't been a competitor in Cats' so I might be being unfair) However they too have a somewhat dodgy history of personal injury (lack of roof and sides doesn't help) The fact that the JCC used brand new cars prepared to highest std convinced me that whilst motor racing is generally dangerous JCC was about as safe as it could be for a novice Caterhams will probably cost about the same as JCC all in Perhaps you should convert your existing car to Club Sport spec and ask if you can race in non-points scoring scenario later this year ready for next year? G JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 22nd, 2002, 07:50 AM	#19 (permalink)
Racer Sponsor,Moderator & Racer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kent Local Time: 04:35 AM Posts: 1,373 Offline	Have you checked out Hot or Stock Hatch(750MC) championships - Std 205GTi say £1500 would do well in stock hatch JCW Club Sport Kawasaki Green / White Unofficial John Cooper Challenge Site

May 22nd, 2002, 07:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
G8BAD_COOPER MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gravesend, Kent Local Time: 03:35 AM Posts: 494 Offline	well i'd love to do the JCC but (although i could afford to mine converted) i couldnt really afford the extra insurance or if i stacked it!! the good thing about the Cat7's is that because its been going for a while i should be able to pick up a second hand race prepared one?? that should sort out the money problems with that. whats this Hot/Stock Hatch about then?? do you have a web address to find out more??

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