[Yellow/Black OneD]

Has anyone had a problem with their diesel starting when hot?
Mine seems to bog down at 500rpm for about 5 seconds before coming up to idle at about 750rpm when i start it when its warm, apart from sounding crap it probably isn't doing it any good,
Can anyone help?

[gibbon]

I'd be taking it back to the dealer as soon as they re-open after the Crimble binge

[claus]

My MOD has now almost 20.000 km on the clock. Never experienced any problem with starting the engine, even when hot.

---Claus

[JVP]

I got the same problem with mine. Already reprted it to the dealer. They told me Mini knows about this problem and is investigating it. Looks like 10 to 15 % of the cars have this problem. I'll rcontact the dealer after newyear.

[ONED]

I've mentioned this problem before also!

The car refuses to take any Rev's it's as if it is starting off 1 cylinder.

[Yellow/Black OneD]

My mini dealer is picking it up on friday, i'll let you all know the outcome!

[freedag]

Have had my MOD for 4 months and have done 6500 miles. Mine started doing that about a month ago . Let us know the outcome on Friday.

[Yellow/Black OneD]

My Mini dealer "re-coded" the engine management system on friday, and it seems to be o.k now, more willing to rev on start-up, and doesn't start on 1 cylinder anymore!

[Harpo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow/Black OneD

My Mini dealer "re-coded" the engine management system on friday, and it seems to be o.k now, more willing to rev on start-up, and doesn't start on 1 cylinder anymore!

Is there now any difference during normal driving Y/B ?

[Yellow/Black OneD]

I haven't noticed any change to the normal driving, i will have to get it chipped! Don't know if it has made any difference to the fuel until i do another full cycle!

[Yellow/Black OneD]

Stopped for fuel the other night, and guess what, when i started it, it cut out the first time, and then did the same old thing of refusing to take any revs for a few seconds!
Any more news about new injectors? I think i might call in at my local Toyota dealer and get it fixed!!

[ONED]

Hmm... same old, same old.

I was nearly going to Toyota to get my problems sorted!
Re-setting the computer does nothing I've been through this!

How many miles have you got on the car?

[Yellow/Black OneD]

Done 6000 miles (3000 miles just going back and forth to the dealer)(not moaning or anything). What is the outcome with yours now, is it still starting rubbishly?
Perhaps knicking an original fuel rail off a Yaris will fix it, will have to take a trip to tesco tomorrow, should be plenty on the car park there!

[ONED]

Our biggest problem was not on starting!, although that did happen to me on a couple on occasions!,
But the main thing was that the car would for no reason just cut out when you were driving along, and could be restarted again immediately.
From your mileage you could have the same problems as us.! We had done in the region of 6000 miles too. Nobody at Bavarian garages or BMW had a clue what was going on, and the car was off the road for 3 weeks.
They tried swapping bits from new ones in the showroom to try to diagnose the problem.
Eventually the main thing I think they done was change the fuel filter, and had tho wait for this to come from Germany cos their nor on any dealers stocks yet!, (I think there's a problem with the spec on the filter as it certainly wasn't a problem with the diesel that we were using.
Another thing they done was change the Air mass Meter, it wasn't indicating a problem! but was giving different readings to the one which the swapped it for.
The dealer also told me that they changed another engine sensor but I don't know what.

If your dealer cannot diagnose the problem, which may happen as the car does not store the fault, they could contact Bavarian in Belfast! The guy I was dealing with was John Leacock.

[Apial]

Hi everyone.

I sadly must join your gang of diesel failures too.

Not satisfied at being at the centre of the "left pull" syndrome in 2001 with my early build ONE, I have now joined the "1-cylinder Hot start Club" for ONE Ds.

The problem started at 6000 miles and has got worse since, now having reached 7000. Fuel consumption seams to have taken a dip too.

A trip to the dealers on Monday will reveal the latest knowledge.

Please keep everyone posted with as precise technical info as you can glean.

I

[Apial]

I spoke to my dealer this morning, and was told to bring it in next week. I mentioned the 6000 mile syndrome which was news to them. I said supposedely 10-14% of ONE Ds are affected, to which they replied that as they had not yet sold enough cars yet for one whole car to be 14%, they had not yet come across this problem!

On a quick scan through the Member listings I discovered that we ONE D owners are a distinguished bunch, being only 86 of us out of a membership of over 15,000. This means that around 7-9 of us will have this hot start problem. But lets not forget what they said about the "left pull syndrome", "It is a small problem affecting only one or two owners.". There could be a bigger problem than is being admitted to.

My suggestion is that we could set up a sticky poll to discover to what extent this problem really is. The faster the better. Many of us have or are about to place an order for a ONE D, including myself. We would like to know what we are letting ourselves in for before it is too late.


What do you say?

[Pepper'D]

have done 15000 in my mod havn,t had this problem!

[Yellow/Black OneD]

I seem to have started a little club on Mini 2 . com! Just goes to show, it is always better to say something! Pitty no one has been able to solve the problem yet though!!
I would be would be just as gratefull as everyone if somebody does get this irritating problem fixed!
You would wonder with the amount of money that is spent on testing how a problem like this would make it through to production. Perhaps they don't do any testing at all, and in fact they just tell us they do to make us feel more satisfied!
Keep me posted! I think a joining fee will have to be drawn up shortly for the 6000 mile club, it might get over run!

[JBA]

Haven't heard that this is a problem on Yarisii, so may be down to something such as water in diesel, or cetane/additive levels. Nearly said dodgy supermarket stuff, but I always had good results from Greenergy diesel at Sainsburys when I ran VW/Audi diesels. May be worth asking a friendly Toyota dealer - and let BMW know as a spur!

Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow/Black OneD

I seem to have started a little club on Mini 2 . com! Just goes to show, it is always better to say something! Pitty no one has been able to solve the problem yet though!!
I would be would be just as gratefull as everyone if somebody does get this irritating problem fixed!
You would wonder with the amount of money that is spent on testing how a problem like this would make it through to production. Perhaps they don't do any testing at all, and in fact they just tell us they do to make us feel more satisfied!
Keep me posted! I think a joining fee will have to be drawn up shortly for the 6000 mile club, it might get over run!

[Apial]

OneD, your car was apparently suffering from diesel starvation due to a duff filter. The airflow mass meter was not the problem. At least that is what my garage told me after speaking to Bavarian's John Leacock.

An email this morning from the Head of Technical Dept in Europe has advised that the DDE unit will need to be uploaded with a new programme, V36.1 that has been written to enhance the hot starting characterisics of the ONE D. This new disc is in transit to my dealer today. Hopefully it does what it says it would.

The Technical Service do not acknowledge a problem with ONE D hot starting at present on the 10-15% as previously suggested by one member. However there must be some sort of problem for the need to rewrite the running software?