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Old Aug 16th, 2007, 08:46 PM   #1
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Pipercross Fitted, what you all think?

Hi guys. Really pleased bought a Pipercross Viper off Ade and finally got round to fitting it today, adds a really nice noise, can't wait to get the Milltek now!!

Here's the picture of my engine bay anyway


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Old Aug 16th, 2007, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looking good Sam that will sound sweet with the milltek
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looks good, FYI if you take off the cold air feed (the pipe between the filter and the front of the car) it sounds a LOT louder but obviously you lose a bit of the advantage of cold air


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Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)
looks good, FYI if you take off the cold air feed (the pipe between the filter and the front of the car) it sounds a LOT louder but obviously you lose a bit of the advantage of cold air

I've heard that, is it a VERY noticeable difference? And does performance go up or down by taking off the cold air feed?

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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 03:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It is quite a bit louder but in a nice way lol by taking it off you basically have a sandard pipercross induction kit but with a carbon fibre heat shield so in theory performance wont be as good as if you have it on but it will still be better than the standard airbox. TBH I didnt notice much performance increase from standard airbox to Viper with cold air feed attached so I took it off.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)
It is quite a bit louder but in a nice way lol by taking it off you basically have a sandard pipercross induction kit but with a carbon fibre heat shield so in theory performance wont be as good as if you have it on but it will still be better than the standard airbox. TBH I didnt notice much performance increase from standard airbox to Viper with cold air feed attached so I took it off.

Holy crap I decided to take it off at about 11 o'clock today, and jebus christ am I glad. You're right Crammy the performance gain isn't all good with the Air Feed on, but my god does it sound nice now!! Bring on the Milltek and Bluefin

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hehe good one, i dont know if youve already seen it but heres a video of my car with Viper, Milltek and Bluefin ( sounds like you're doing the same mods as me)


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Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)
hehe good one, i dont know if youve already seen it but heres a video of my car with Viper, Milltek and Bluefin ( sounds like you're doing the same mods as me)
YouTube - Mini ONE with Milltek Cat-back

Yeah I've seen it mate, was very good!! My friend's selling his MX5 today and wanted me to video some fly bys, got some of me in the Mini so once he has them I'll stick them on here Don't know how good the quality is but oh well, I'm happy with it so far!!

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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 09:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi Crammy,
I got the bad news today at the MOT center that my rear exhaust is "badly rusted", so looks like I've found the perfect excuse to put to the other half about buying the Miltek Cat back system I've drooled over for months.

And now after seeing your video I'm certainly getting one.

I also run the Bluefin with a Pipercross Viper filter but was in two minds weither to go for the Janspeed manifold too, but with no head work I'm not sure of the potential power gains?

In your video did you have the cold air feed disconnected because it sounds nice and deep or is that the tone of the Miltek?

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Hi Minione Sam,
the Vipers are a nice mod. as you now know, but I found the cold air feed pipe was just a bit fragile and after a couple of weeks it fell apart on me (reinforcing spring came apart).

I found a really good replacement on Demon Tweeks Motorsport site, they do a double skinned reinforced pipe, in red, very fexible and good for temperatures upto 300C (used for brake ducts).

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Quote: Originally Posted by REDHOT CHILLI COOPER (original)
Hi Minione Sam,
the Vipers are a nice mod. as you now know, but I found the cold air feed pipe was just a bit fragile and after a couple of weeks it fell apart on me (reinforcing spring came apart).

I found a really good replacement on Demon Tweeks Motorsport site, they do a double skinned reinforced pipe, in red, very fexible and good for temperatures upto 300C (used for brake ducts).

Cheers RHCC, I bought it secondhand and could notice the slight wearing on the air feed (spring popped out, stitching loose etc). I've disconnected anyway to give it a nice throaty roar

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In your video did you have the cold air feed disconnected because it sounds nice and deep or is that the tone of the Miltek?

Also I haven't got my Milltek yet, but just by disconnecting my PX it's got a nice throaty roar similar to the video, the Milltek will severely enhance it though when it comes to me getting it

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Old Aug 18th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by REDHOT CHILLI COOPER (original)
Hi Crammy,
I got the bad news today at the MOT center that my rear exhaust is "badly rusted", so looks like I've found the perfect excuse to put to the other half about buying the Miltek Cat back system I've drooled over for months.

And now after seeing your video I'm certainly getting one.

I also run the Bluefin with a Pipercross Viper filter but was in two minds weither to go for the Janspeed manifold too, but with no head work I'm not sure of the potential power gains?

In your video did you have the cold air feed disconnected because it sounds nice and deep or is that the tone of the Miltek?

Hi mate, I was also debating whether to get a manifold but after seeing a few in action they seem a bit too loud for me, they are supposed to give a bit more power though. in the video I did have the cold air feed disconnected but I think about 70% of the sound was the exhaust. One thing that surprised me when I got the Milltek is that you can't really hear it inside the car, however outside the car it seems you can hear it more than the Viper


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Old Aug 24th, 2007, 09:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Part Number?

Quote: Originally Posted by REDHOT CHILLI COOPER (original)
Hi Minione Sam,
the Vipers are a nice mod. as you now know, but I found the cold air feed pipe was just a bit fragile and after a couple of weeks it fell apart on me (reinforcing spring came apart).

I found a really good replacement on Demon Tweeks Motorsport site, they do a double skinned reinforced pipe, in red, very fexible and good for temperatures upto 300C (used for brake ducts).

I don't suppose you have a part number for the reinforced cold air feed pipe from Demon Tweeks? Or maybe even a photo of it fitted?

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Old Sep 4th, 2007, 12:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi everyone. I have had a scan through your comments on the viper and Milltek etc. I have a standard 06 cooper, looking at doing a few mod’s however dont want to put any crap under the bonnet! With previous cars i have put K&N induction kits on with little benefit with the exception of induction roar. In fact, performance went down and fuel consumption up!

Without spending too much cash, what would you reccommend in terms of simple mod’s. I.e. Air intake, back box, perhaps ignition (spark plugs - that kind of thing)??

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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In fact, performance went down and fuel consumption up!

Wouldn't consumption going up be a good thing? Do you mean you burnt more fuel or your fuel lasted longer?

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Hi minionesam, Nice mod looks sound! Just a couple of questions for ya! Was it easy to fit? And what's your mpg been like with it on? Also is your cold air feed completely broken? The kit costs enough you wouldn't expect it to break Ta
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Hi minionesam, Nice mod looks sound! Just a couple of questions for ya! Was it easy to fit? And what's your mpg been like with it on? Also is your cold air feed completely broken? The kit costs enough you wouldn't expect it to break Ta

Hi Lee, here's your answers lol

1) Yes was easy to fit, only problem was as I was ripping old air BOX out (bottom half) it got caught on the intake from the front and the whole plastic bit got ripped out of an unknown hole from below so had to jack it up and pop it back in (easy), but may not happen to yu

2) To be honest I haven't noticed much on MPG front, first time I fitted it I swore I lost a tank very quickly, but I'm not sure I may have just driven s*** loads!!

3) I read soomewhere the hoses all go quickly cos they bend all over the place and aren't the best material, I'm currently looking for a performance one, so if anyone could help me find one that'd be cool. I'm hopefully doing a kinda custom job with a ram pipe soon so will post some pics when that's done.

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Hi sam, what is the actual name/details of your kit, and how much it cost new??

Can u notice the sound inside??

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Quote: Originally Posted by MiniOneSam (original)
Wouldn't consumption going up be a good thing? Do you mean you burnt more fuel or your fuel lasted longer?

Consumption going up would mean it would use more fuel.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original)
I don't suppose you have a part number for the reinforced cold air feed pipe from Demon Tweeks? Or maybe even a photo of it fitted?

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