[Swiss Sam]

Hi all!

This is my first post!

Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere else in the forums but I seached and didn't find all the info I was looking for...

A friend of mine is getting rid of his original (apart from the airfilter) "S" parts to replace them with new JCW parts. I'd like to know what would be possible for me to fit on my 2002 ONE and whether it is recommended or not, etc.

Please let me know whether I can fit the following S parts and if you would recommend it:

1. Original Cooper S suspensions: this is what I'm most interested in! Do-able? Better ride?
2. Cooper S injectors (163cv) or the "old" JCW ones (200cv): don't think this can be fitted...
3. BMC Performance Airfilter (+5 BHP): good move? high fuel consumption difference?
4. Original Cooper S brakes: any different from the ONE brakes?
5. Original Cooper S front and back seats (Blue cloth/Black leather): more comfy than standard ONE seats?

Any information you can give will be much appreciated!

Thank you!

Sam

[JpMcC]

Hi there, Welcome to MINI2

questions 1-3 No as far as I know

4 and 5 quite possible, I actually have fitted Cooper S Seats in my One

[Swiss Sam]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpsmini

Hi there, Welcome to MINI2

questions 1-3 No as far as I know

4 and 5 quite possible, I actually have fitted Cooper S Seats in my One

jpsmini, thanks for your reply

Why would the BMC airfilter not fit though?
And the suspensions won't fit either? Would I need to change another part to make them fit or they just won't fit - period?

So, what do you think about those S seats?? Are they more comfortable on longer rides or just sportier? Or was it just for looks that you changed them?

[S33BBY]

Quote: Originally Posted by Swiss Sam

Why would the BMC airfilter not fit though?

Because the air filter in the One/Cooper is different to that in the S, and so after-market S filters have different mountings and fittings to those made for a One or Cooper.

Quote: Originally Posted by Swiss Sam

And the suspensions won't fit either? Would I need to change another part to make them fit or they just won't fit - period?

I always thought you could fit S springs to a One or Cooper.

[Paul]

The brake specs are the same across the range too.

[euan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

The brake specs are the same across the range too.

That actually surprises me a bit, I thought they would be a bit beefier in an S. I remember hearing a quote somewhere that said that the first thing to do when upping BHP was upping the brakes. Mind you, thinking about it I didn't notice any real difference between the S and my old Cooper, must just have been preception.

[pocketrocketowner]

From the top:

1)The suspension (shocks, springs and rear bar) can most definitely be installed. You will have a firmer, better handling ride.

2) Injectors will fit right in (the "old" JCW are the standard S ones) question would be what is the computer gonna do about it?

3) Unless you want to be messing with a whole lot of stuff, stick to a filter upgrade designed for your model.

4) Brakes are all the same so no change there at all (In a sense, your car has a LOT BETTER brakes than the S as it does not have the HP that the S has.....!!)

5) Seats will fit.
Hope this helps.

[Swiss Sam]

Quote: Originally Posted by pocketrocketowner

From the top:

1)The suspension (shocks, springs and rear bar) can most definitely be installed. You will have a firmer, better handling ride.

2) Injectors will fit right in (the "old" JCW are the standard S ones) question would be what is the computer gonna do about it?

3) Unless you want to be messing with a whole lot of stuff, stick to a filter upgrade designed for your model.

4) Brakes are all the same so no change there at all (In a sense, your car has a LOT BETTER brakes than the S as it does not have the HP that the S has.....!!)

5) Seats will fit.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info pocketrocketowner!

I'm going to my local dealer with my friend tomorrow to see how much they'll charge to install his S suspensions on mine (while he gets his JCW suspensions installed!). Is this definitely recommended for a better ride?? I'm sure the car will handle better when cornering but the roads aren't that great out here (southern Spain) and I don't want to be feeling every little bump on the road like there's an earthquake going on!

I forgot to mention but my One's ECU has actually been upgraded (re-programed) to that of the '05 Cooper so I'm getting roughly the same performances as the Cooper...

When you say: the "old" JCW are the standard S ones - do you mean that they're just tunned up by JCW if you get the "old" 200bhp kit installed? They don't actually change them? I don't think I'm gonna mess with the injectors though... Sounds sketchy...

Any suggestions for the air filter upgrade? I know the JCW Cooper Sound Kit is coming out in March-April (this includes a new air filter, right?) and this would probably be my best option... what do you guys think?

Oh yeah, and no one's got any advice on changing the seats to the S ones?? More comfortable or just sportier/better looking?

Thanks!

[pocketrocketowner]

The S suspension is firm but totally acceptable.....of course if you go on a dirt road full of holes you will get your teeth rattled!

The "base" JCW kit does not include injectors so they just swap the original ones to the JCW head, that is why I say the "old" injectors are the same. I would not mess with them either.

I (being an old fuddy duddy) really look askance at any modification of the air intake system in a street car (race cars are a different matter). NOTHING will kill an engine faster than lack of air or crud through into the cylinders. I have kept mine original (even to the filter) and will soon be installing the JCW 210 Upgrade which comes with a new filter and air box. I say wait for the JCW (BMW approved) kit. Nothing like them dumb factory engineers I say.....

I have leather sport seats and they are VERY nice. The one thing that may be a problem is the wiring harness underneath the seats. Make sure the number and type of plugs are the same befor you tear things apart. The air bag system is controlled through there.
Buena suerte!

[Swiss Sam]

Quote: Originally Posted by pocketrocketowner

The S suspension is firm but totally acceptable.....of course if you go on a dirt road full of holes you will get your teeth rattled!

The "base" JCW kit does not include injectors so they just swap the original ones to the JCW head, that is why I say the "old" injectors are the same. I would not mess with them either.

I (being an old fuddy duddy) really look askance at any modification of the air intake system in a street car (race cars are a different matter). NOTHING will kill an engine faster than lack of air or crud through into the cylinders. I have kept mine original (even to the filter) and will soon be installing the JCW 210 Upgrade which comes with a new filter and air box. I say wait for the JCW (BMW approved) kit. Nothing like them dumb factory engineers I say.....

I have leather sport seats and they are VERY nice. The one thing that may be a problem is the wiring harness underneath the seats. Make sure the number and type of plugs are the same befor you tear things apart. The air bag system is controlled through there.
Buena suerte!

Thanks for the info!

Okay, so I'm going to put on the S suspension as after going for a ride in my friend's S and paying close attention, the improvement in handling (especially in roundabouts - at high speeds, I will add) offsets the decrease in comfort on bumpy roads due to the firmness of the springs. I think it's worth it - if anyone thinks I'm wrong, please let me know!

Regarding the leather sport seats (Cooper S), I've heard mixed reviews on them... I've read that they don't sit as low as the standard ones (which may be a problem when you're 6"1 like me!); the leather looks creased up and saggy after a few thousand miles, and that they're a 100 times less comfortable than the JCW ones!

Can anyone who made the switch from standard seats to sport seats recommend it? Also, the ones I'm looking at have the heating option... (maybe a dumb question...) can Heated Seats be retro-fitted?? Quick styling question: do you think the lapis-blue/black leather seats would look nice in an all black One??

I'm also going to get off of him the leather S steering wheel and the glove-box...
Any thoughts on that?

All of the above changes will be performed by my local dealer as my personal technical skills are limited to none...

Thanks to anyone who'll share his/her opinion with me on this - truth is, I'm really indecisive!!

Muchas gracias!
Sam

[flyfs6]

Hello folks. Another newbie here. I found this thread really informative.

I'd also like to ask if a Cooper S exhaust system can be fitted to a One / Cooper and also if a Cooper S bonnet can be fitted?

Cheers.

[S33BBY]

Quote: Originally Posted by flyfs6

I'd also like to ask if a Cooper S exhaust system can be fitted to a One / Cooper and also if a Cooper S bonnet can be fitted?

An S bonnet can, but I don't think you can fit the exhaust (as it has 2 back boxes and there aren't the right hangers, etc etc), but even if you could, there's little point. If you particularly want a centre exit exhaust, I believe there are some made specifically for the One and Cooper. I'll see what I can find.

[flyfs6]

Thanks mate...hope to hear some more soon.

[C12OGN]

u can fit an S exhaust to a one but it does require a lot of work u need brackets and other mounts and stuff, message me if u wanna no how. . .
it can be done mine proves it if u wanna c phot's i'll mail them 2 ya

[flyfs6]

PM sent mate.

Also does anyone know if the xenons and Navi can be fitted.

I'll search the forum for more info in the mean while.

Thanks in advance.

[C12OGN]

i bought xenons off ebay so i hope so lol their on there way!

[Swiss Sam]

Hi there!

Could someone PLEASE give me feedback on my last post (about the S suspensions and the S leather seats with heating).

Thanks!!!

Sam
MINI2 Aficionado

[jonnyc]

Hey

Xenons can be retro fitted, plug-and-play

Did it on my mini one... which is for sale by the way

Just to ease your mind....

Jonny