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snid · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:19 AM

As some of you know, the brown MINI did not entirely survive my most recent weekend of driving.

I did manage to get a sub-minute time in it on Saturday at the go-kart tack. That's a time I didn't expect to be able to accomplish.

Sunday, I was stupid. I went out way too hard on cold tires on my first lap in the morning.

I did my braking at the end of the front straight, and made the first right turn of the chicane. I do not remember what happened immediately after that.

The next thing I do remember is sliding sideways, 180° from the direction the car should have been pointed, towards the two big trees near the swamp.

Somehow, I managed to make contact with a large rock that sits between the two big trees. I never knew that rock was there before. The rock clipped the front bumper and clobbered the right front wheel.

The wheel moved back a bit and closed the gap between the quarter panel and door

The door will open, but it makes nasty sounds as the door contacts the body panel in front of it.

The inside of the wheel made contact with the strut

The suspension on that corner of the car is done. The control arm is bent, the ball joint popped off, the half shaft pulled out of the transmission, and probably more.

I also seem to have take a bite out of one of the pulleys

And on the inside, both front airbags deployed

which caused some damage to my helmet (which doesn't photograph well)

And, if you really need to see it, there's video:
caution, contains adult language

YouTube - crash

Like I said, I was stupid.

But, I'm fairly certain the brown MINI can be put back together... time will tell...

MGB Boy · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:28 AM

Shnikeys, that airbag looked like a bag of overcooked microwave popcorn! Glad to hear that you're okay, though. Can't really tell what sent you off there, did you hook a tire on the inside curb or something?

If you put it back together, will it be faster, stronger, better? Will it be... Bionic Brown MINI?

-Ricardo

blalor · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:44 AM

Wow, dude. Your narrative(s) did *nothing* to prepare me for the video! "****" just about sums it up. That impact looked really hard, too. I'm sorry the Brown MINI is bruised, but I have a feeling it'll be back better than before. I do kind of wonder about that broken pulley, however; if that's the crank pulley, is there a chance it could have damaged the crank itself?

I'm glad you are ok!

yellowmininy · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:46 AM

Sorry to hear about the Mini, Jason, but I'm glad you're OK. Those damn rocks!

snid · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MGB Boy (original)

Can't really tell what sent you off there, did you hook a tire on the inside curb or something?

Stupidity did it. I went too fast for cold tires.
Bouncing off of curbs didn't help, but with more heat in the tires it would have worked.

I didn't post this thread looking for sympathy, or because I'm proud of what I did.

I'm horrible at asking for help. I cannot stand feeling like I am imposing upon other people. I like to take care of things myself as much as possible.

But, in this case, I think I may wind up needing help. I'm not entirely sure what that will entail right now. But, if anyone has spare parts laying around I can have / get cheap... I'll probably be looking.

The first step is going to be making it drivable again. Not at speed, just under its own power. Then, I need to find out if anything frame-like is bent. At some point, a new bumper will be needed, possibly some other body parts for the car.

And I still haven't found an enclosed location to store the car at in the meantime.

Cape Cod MINI · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:54 AM

A number of things come to mind:

-But for the grace of of a wet track while doing a 360 at Lime Rock there go I.
-But for dumb luck at ending up facing pit out in the grass affter going into turn 1 way too hot at NHIS there go I.
-If we want to play we sometimes have to pay and that's just the way it is.

Sure we feel dumb, but there's no shame in learning a lesson.

Glad you are OK. (Get an S.

)

Sheenabea · Sep 6th, 2007, 02:26 AM

Glad you are ok. That crash came on quick! I don't have any spare parts for a Cooper though...

ScottyB · Sep 6th, 2007, 04:12 AM

Damn Jason!!

Sorry to read this!

That looked a terribly sudden impact too.. ouch! Glad to hear that you are okay though..!

Best of luck with the repairs. Hope the Brown MINI is back, better than ever, very soon

ravioliworld · Sep 6th, 2007, 04:36 AM

Don't forget, NoNo's selling brown paint!

rfinprc · Sep 6th, 2007, 05:59 AM

Holey shimolies! Glad you're okay.

Venno · Sep 6th, 2007, 10:18 AM

OUch!!! glad to see you're okay......
So question...I got a open face helmet for auto crossing...(still on backorder through)...looking at the video/pictures....should i be getting a closed face???

snid · Sep 6th, 2007, 10:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Venno (original)

OUch!!! glad to see you're okay......
So question...I got a open face helmet for auto crossing...(still on backorder through)...looking at the video/pictures....should i be getting a closed face???

I'm not an expert, but my next helmet is going to be full face.

Oldpaint · Sep 6th, 2007, 10:46 AM

Sorry to see this. Glad you could walk away.

snid · Sep 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM

If anyone has an outdoor car cover for a MINI that they are not using, that would come in handy for me.

NoNo · Sep 6th, 2007, 11:45 AM

Can't see pictures or view the video yet, but I'm glad you're ok. You must rebuild! Brown still lives. Johnny 5 - ALIVE!

:: Jon :: · Sep 6th, 2007, 12:00 PM

saw the picks on flickr dude.. glad your ok..

GBMINI · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:04 PM

Jason,
Thanks for the video ... brings it all home in a completely different way.

I have an unused GP car cover - it will probably fit reasonably well and you're very welcome to it. Give me an address and I'll get it shipped to you.

Apart from that, as I said before all I have is a white 16" X-lite wheel. And lots of support.

I know it's irrelevant really, but I'm hoping we can still catch up with each other sometime next weekend (British Invasion)?

jwardell · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:30 PM

I can't help but watch it over and over. (You've already had my condolences in email) Such a tiny mistake has such a large cost. I think however you might have been better off hitting it on the side than on the front. There's a good chance your frame is OK (and even that is fixable...but not by yourself) because the suspension sacrificed itself. If you had hit the trees instead of the rock, you would have had a lot more damage, and still have suspension damage as well.
I know you are thinking of slowly doing it yourself (as I try to do as well), but if not Julian has told me several times he is very happy to send a flatbed to northern new england, and he certainly works with you on price of repairs when insurance is not paying.
And I still think that helmet is fine, with just a small bruise on the chin.

GMINI · Sep 6th, 2007, 01:37 PM

Tough run there, Jason. I am very glad you are unharmed. I wish you the best!

Meg · Sep 6th, 2007, 02:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jonmorgan (original)

saw the picks on flickr dude.. glad your ok..

Saw the pics there as well. Glad you came out of it ok!

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:19 AM	#1
snid brown is back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 4,221 Offline	The reason for the increased interest in finding a new car As some of you know, the brown MINI did not entirely survive my most recent weekend of driving. I did manage to get a sub-minute time in it on Saturday at the go-kart tack. That's a time I didn't expect to be able to accomplish. Sunday, I was stupid. I went out way too hard on cold tires on my first lap in the morning. I did my braking at the end of the front straight, and made the first right turn of the chicane. I do not remember what happened immediately after that. The next thing I do remember is sliding sideways, 180° from the direction the car should have been pointed, towards the two big trees near the swamp. Somehow, I managed to make contact with a large rock that sits between the two big trees. I never knew that rock was there before. The rock clipped the front bumper and clobbered the right front wheel. The wheel moved back a bit and closed the gap between the quarter panel and door The door will open, but it makes nasty sounds as the door contacts the body panel in front of it. The inside of the wheel made contact with the strut The suspension on that corner of the car is done. The control arm is bent, the ball joint popped off, the half shaft pulled out of the transmission, and probably more. I also seem to have take a bite out of one of the pulleys And on the inside, both front airbags deployed which caused some damage to my helmet (which doesn't photograph well) And, if you really need to see it, there's video: caution, contains adult language YouTube - crash Like I said, I was stupid. But, I'm fairly certain the brown MINI can be put back together... time will tell... jtross \| snid \| jason - bloggage (including videos)

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
MGB Boy heterochromic & loving it Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: at the rink Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 4,242 Offline	Shnikeys, that airbag looked like a bag of overcooked microwave popcorn! Glad to hear that you're okay, though. Can't really tell what sent you off there, did you hook a tire on the inside curb or something? If you put it back together, will it be faster, stronger, better? Will it be... Bionic Brown MINI? -Ricardo 06 MCS-W/77 MGB/69 MGB-GT "2 minutes by yourself and...you feel shame, you know...and then you get free"

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
snid brown is back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 4,221 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MGB Boy (original) Can't really tell what sent you off there, did you hook a tire on the inside curb or something? Stupidity did it. I went too fast for cold tires. Bouncing off of curbs didn't help, but with more heat in the tires it would have worked. I didn't post this thread looking for sympathy, or because I'm proud of what I did. I'm horrible at asking for help. I cannot stand feeling like I am imposing upon other people. I like to take care of things myself as much as possible. But, in this case, I think I may wind up needing help. I'm not entirely sure what that will entail right now. But, if anyone has spare parts laying around I can have / get cheap... I'll probably be looking. The first step is going to be making it drivable again. Not at speed, just under its own power. Then, I need to find out if anything frame-like is bent. At some point, a new bumper will be needed, possibly some other body parts for the car. And I still haven't found an enclosed location to store the car at in the meantime. jtross \| snid \| jason - bloggage (including videos)

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 5,365 Offline	A number of things come to mind: -But for the grace of of a wet track while doing a 360 at Lime Rock there go I. -But for dumb luck at ending up facing pit out in the grass affter going into turn 1 way too hot at NHIS there go I. -If we want to play we sometimes have to pay and that's just the way it is. Sure we feel dumb, but there's no shame in learning a lesson. Glad you are OK. (Get an S.) Missing my buddies Dan and Ed but glad I have two angel buddies, And on a quest to Right Secco's Wrongs

Sep 6th, 2007, 02:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sheenabea The girl in the red MINI Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Belmont, MA Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 739 Offline	Glad you are ok. That crash came on quick! I don't have any spare parts for a Cooper though... ~ Sheeb MINI Pics

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Sep 6th, 2007, 01:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
blalor Rabid Motorer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nashua, NH Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 1,941 Offline	Wow, dude. Your narrative(s) did nothing to prepare me for the video! "***" just about sums it up. That impact looked really hard, too. I'm sorry the Brown MINI is bruised, but I have a feeling it'll be back better than before. I do kind of wonder about that broken pulley, however; if that's the crank pulley, is there a chance it could have damaged the crank itself? I'm glad you* are ok!

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
yellowmininy QQJ's Social Secretary Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Upstate NY Local Time: 04:52 AM Posts: 7,108 Offline	Sorry to hear about the Mini, Jason, but I'm glad you're OK. Those damn rocks!

Sep 6th, 2007, 04:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
ScottyB Take me down to Paradise My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: David McGhan's World Local Time: 08:52 PM Posts: 192,296 Offline	Damn Jason!! Sorry to read this! That looked a terribly sudden impact too.. ouch! Glad to hear that you are okay though..! Best of luck with the repairs. Hope the Brown MINI is back, better than ever, very soon - Global Moderator - MY BLOG - Global Procrastinator - ... Buying the 8C for its dynamic abilities is like buying a porn film for its plot ...

Sep 6th, 2007, 04:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
ravioliworld Don't believe the clown Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hamden, CT Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 279 Offline	Don't forget, NoNo's selling brown paint!

Sep 6th, 2007, 05:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
rfinprc wherever you go... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 1,550 Offline	Holey shimolies! Glad you're okay.

Sep 6th, 2007, 10:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Venno MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 200 Offline	OUch!!! glad to see you're okay...... So question...I got a open face helmet for auto crossing...(still on backorder through)...looking at the video/pictures....should i be getting a closed face??? DS DS '06MCS

Sep 6th, 2007, 10:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
snid brown is back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 4,221 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Venno (original) OUch!!! glad to see you're okay...... So question...I got a open face helmet for auto crossing...(still on backorder through)...looking at the video/pictures....should i be getting a closed face??? I'm not an expert, but my next helmet is going to be full face. jtross \| snid \| jason - bloggage (including videos)

Sep 6th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
Oldpaint Domestic Motor Pool Chief Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tralfamadore Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 1,012 Offline	Sorry to see this. Glad you could walk away. everything you know is wrong gnorw si wonk uoy gnihtyreve

Sep 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
snid brown is back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 4,221 Offline	If anyone has an outdoor car cover for a MINI that they are not using, that would come in handy for me. jtross \| snid \| jason - bloggage (including videos)

Sep 6th, 2007, 11:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
NoNo Pirates in my ear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Monkeyhouse Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 6,638 Offline	Can't see pictures or view the video yet, but I'm glad you're ok. You must rebuild! Brown still lives. Johnny 5 - ALIVE!

Sep 6th, 2007, 12:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 10:52 AM Posts: 15,109 Offline	saw the picks on flickr dude.. glad your ok.. EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
GBMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, MA, USA Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 7,600 Offline	Jason, Thanks for the video ... brings it all home in a completely different way. I have an unused GP car cover - it will probably fit reasonably well and you're very welcome to it. Give me an address and I'll get it shipped to you. Apart from that, as I said before all I have is a white 16" X-lite wheel. And lots of support. I know it's irrelevant really, but I'm hoping we can still catch up with each other sometime next weekend (British Invasion)? Ian C. Gloucester, MA, USA (UK expat) driving GPMINI and Convertible GBMINI#6

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
jwardell MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Newton, MA Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 5,440 Offline	I can't help but watch it over and over. (You've already had my condolences in email) Such a tiny mistake has such a large cost. I think however you might have been better off hitting it on the side than on the front. There's a good chance your frame is OK (and even that is fixable...but not by yourself) because the suspension sacrificed itself. If you had hit the trees instead of the rock, you would have had a lot more damage, and still have suspension damage as well. I know you are thinking of slowly doing it yourself (as I try to do as well), but if not Julian has told me several times he is very happy to send a flatbed to northern new england, and he certainly works with you on price of repairs when insurance is not paying. And I still think that helmet is fine, with just a small bruise on the chin. http://www.jwardell.com/mini/

Sep 6th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
GMINI MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Connecticut Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 7,187 Offline	Tough run there, Jason. I am very glad you are unharmed. I wish you the best! NY/NE Mod

Sep 6th, 2007, 02:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Meg I can't spell Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Long Island NY Local Time: 05:52 AM Posts: 2,862 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jonmorgan (original) saw the picks on flickr dude.. glad your ok.. Saw the pics there as well. Glad you came out of it ok! RIP Boo

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