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GadgetGav · Feb 24th, 2008, 12:13 PM

I actually realized I don't need any new cables as the PS3 will play DVDs, so I'll move the optical and HDMI cables over from that. I'll have to fire that up on the odd occasion that we want to watch a UK DVD, but that doesn't happen often.

GadgetGav · Feb 26th, 2008, 07:17 PM

Another reason I'm glad I went the Blu Ray route...

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m2smith · Feb 26th, 2008, 10:05 PM

If that's the reason then you haven't really escaped...
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And btw - You're the guy with the newest toys so you probably won't have the problem...
The issues with copy protection and poorly implemented (or written) software had been a headache for me. HDMi pass thru issues - the DVI issue as described ...
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jwardell · Feb 28th, 2008, 12:29 AM

Seems like a dumb article...why would you buy an appletv just to hook it up to a computer monitor? You might as well just use your computer!

So..how many minutes does your blu-ray player take to actually play a disk?
How do you feel that it is already outdated and doesn't meet the newest current spec?

Granted I am happy the format war is over, but hd-dvd was at least smart enough to figure things out the first time.

GadgetGav · Feb 28th, 2008, 01:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jwardell (original)

So..how many minutes does your blu-ray player take to actually play a disk?

Minutes..??

Try 3 seconds from pushing the disc into the slot when it's on standby. The PS3 blows away almost all the stand alone players in this respect even ones up in the $800 range.

Quote:

How do you feel that it is already outdated and doesn't meet the newest current spec?

How's it outdated..? Did they announce the PS4..? What newest spec..? BD-Live..? There are two titles released that have BD-Live features, but there are *no* players on the market yet. PS3 has an internet connection (wired or wireless) and will be updated to BD-Live (Profile 2.0) in May, right about the time that the first stand alone players hit the market.
My whole reason for buying the PS3 as a Blu Ray player was that it is the fastest booting, most upgradable Blu Ray player.

Quote:

Granted I am happy the format war is over, but hd-dvd was at least smart enough to figure things out the first time.

Yes, it seems that Blu Ray came to market before they'd finalized everything, but that's the reason to get an upgradable player. The PS3 is upgradable and is currently one of the best BD players, especially if you're looking for a player under $500.

Did you buy an HD DVD player..?

MGB Boy · Feb 28th, 2008, 03:47 AM

Interesting article here about how Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD wasn't so much the hardware format war that has been portrayed in the mainstream press, it was more of a software standards war. Granted, the author goes a bit overboard from time to time with his anti-Microsoft ax (what else would you expect from a hardcore mac-head

), but in general from what I understand from reading lots of articles from different sources in the industry, the gist of what he says is all correct...

Lessons from the Death of HD-DVD — RoughlyDrafted Magazine

-Ricardo

GadgetGav · Feb 28th, 2008, 12:01 PM

Roughly Drafted going overboard...? Imagine that..!

That guy is OCD in extreme.

jwardell · Mar 1st, 2008, 03:55 AM

I thought you were saying you had a standalone. PS3 is still currently the only decent answer (and amazingly, the cheapest, too). Plus it plays rock band.

GadgetGav · Mar 1st, 2008, 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original)

I'd seriously consider AppleTV with the update, but I think the selection available on Blu Ray through Netflix, and the near price parity is going to put a PS3 in my future...

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original)

I don't want to plug it in yet in case there's condensation inside - it's c-c-c-cold outside, but I have an initial impression of the PS3: it's heavy!

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original)

I actually realized I don't need any new cables as the PS3 will play DVDs, so I'll move the optical and HDMI cables over from that.

Quote: Originally Posted by jwardell (original)

I thought you were saying you had a standalone. PS3 is still currently the only decent answer (and amazingly, the cheapest, too). Plus it plays rock band.

Exactly. Cheapest, fastest booting, most upgradable, oh and games too. I've only ever been considering the PS3 as the Blu Ray player. The choice was between that and AppleTV. Glad I went with PS3 / Blu Ray. Assassin's Creed has filled the week of recovery nicely..!

Don't know when I'll get another week of sitting on the couch to finish the second half though.

GadgetGav · Mar 1st, 2008, 01:34 PM

PS3 Movies reviews:
Spiderman 3: Nice effects, I suppose it shows off Blu Ray pretty well which is why they bundle it (and it's a Sony release too so it costs them next to nothing). Cheesy story, but what do you expect with this franchise.

Shooter: Watched our first Netflix Blu Ray rental last night. I liked this movie and again, a lot of the effects show off Blu Ray nicely. Big explosions in one scene.

Regular DVDs: I guess it's because my plasma is 'only' 720p, but the PS3 does a good job of upscaling regular DVDs. I don't have anything on DVD and Blu Ray to do a direct comparison, but the DVDs look good to me. Maybe I should see if Netflix has anything on Blu Ray that I already own on DVD and do that comparison...

harveyjoseph · Mar 5th, 2008, 11:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original)

PS3 Movies reviews:
Spiderman 3: Nice effects, I suppose it shows off Blu Ray pretty well which is why they bundle it (and it's a Sony release too so it costs them next to nothing). Cheesy story, but what do you expect with this franchise.

Shooter: Watched our first Netflix Blu Ray rental last night. I liked this movie and again, a lot of the effects show off Blu Ray nicely. Big explosions in one scene.

Regular DVDs: I guess it's because my plasma is 'only' 720p, but the PS3 does a good job of upscaling regular DVDs. I don't have anything on DVD and Blu Ray to do a direct comparison, but the DVDs look good to me. Maybe I should see if Netflix has anything on Blu Ray that I already own on DVD and do that comparison...

Gav,
Just got a 250G PS3 yesterday... Should be here tomorrow and I cain't wait to see how the BluRay looks.

bethandlouis · Mar 5th, 2008, 11:51 PM

A good movie to watch but something that I saw artifacts in is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. It would be an interesting test. Of course we are still using our DVD player from 1996.

GadgetGav · Mar 6th, 2008, 02:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by harveyjoseph (original)

Gav,
Just got a 250G PS3 yesterday... Should be here tomorrow and I cain't wait to see how the BluRay looks.

Hey Harvey..! How's it going..?
I'm confused..? 250G PS3..? Did you get one with a really big hard drive in it..?

GadgetGav · Mar 6th, 2008, 02:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bethandlouis (original)

A good movie to watch but something that I saw artifacts in is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. It would be an interesting test. Of course we are still using our DVD player from 1996.

I'll put it in our Netflix queue (if it's in Blu Ray) and let you know...

harveyjoseph · Mar 6th, 2008, 11:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original)

Hey Harvey..! How's it going..?
I'm confused..? 250G PS3..? Did you get one with a really big hard drive in it..?

Well, I got the small one, 30G's and purchased a 250G and plan on changing it out when it arrives today.

NoNo · Mar 6th, 2008, 11:58 AM

Nice, voiding the warranty on the first day!

Actual Size · Mar 6th, 2008, 01:16 PM

Why not get a Blue-Ray drive and stick it in Terry's laptop?

harveyjoseph · Mar 7th, 2008, 12:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by NoNo (original)

Nice, voiding the warranty on the first day!

Yea I got the damn thing and it was DOA.... Flashing red light no nothing

Gotta send it back for an exchange......POS.... No woonder that I like the Wii so much.

jwardell · Mar 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM

That's cuz it's not submersible.

Actual Size · Mar 7th, 2008, 11:16 AM

The Maxtor external drives are though.

Feb 26th, 2008, 10:05 PM	#3203 (permalink)
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Feb 28th, 2008, 12:29 AM	#3204 (permalink)
jwardell MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Newton, MA Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 5,440 Offline	Seems like a dumb article...why would you buy an appletv just to hook it up to a computer monitor? You might as well just use your computer! So..how many minutes does your blu-ray player take to actually play a disk? How do you feel that it is already outdated and doesn't meet the newest current spec? Granted I am happy the format war is over, but hd-dvd was at least smart enough to figure things out the first time. http://www.jwardell.com/mini/

Feb 28th, 2008, 03:47 AM	#3206 (permalink)
MGB Boy heterochromic & loving it Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: at the rink Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 4,242 Offline	Interesting article here about how Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD wasn't so much the hardware format war that has been portrayed in the mainstream press, it was more of a software standards war. Granted, the author goes a bit overboard from time to time with his anti-Microsoft ax (what else would you expect from a hardcore mac-head ), but in general from what I understand from reading lots of articles from different sources in the industry, the gist of what he says is all correct... Lessons from the Death of HD-DVD — RoughlyDrafted Magazine -Ricardo 06 MCS-W/77 MGB/69 MGB-GT "2 minutes by yourself and...you feel shame, you know...and then you get free"

Mar 1st, 2008, 03:55 AM	#3208 (permalink)
jwardell MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Newton, MA Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 5,440 Offline	I thought you were saying you had a standalone. PS3 is still currently the only decent answer (and amazingly, the cheapest, too). Plus it plays rock band. http://www.jwardell.com/mini/

Mar 5th, 2008, 11:13 PM	#3211 (permalink)
harveyjoseph Goin to fast to look back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Merrimack, NH Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 1,825 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original) PS3 Movies reviews: Spiderman 3: Nice effects, I suppose it shows off Blu Ray pretty well which is why they bundle it (and it's a Sony release too so it costs them next to nothing). Cheesy story, but what do you expect with this franchise. Shooter: Watched our first Netflix Blu Ray rental last night. I liked this movie and again, a lot of the effects show off Blu Ray nicely. Big explosions in one scene. Regular DVDs: I guess it's because my plasma is 'only' 720p, but the PS3 does a good job of upscaling regular DVDs. I don't have anything on DVD and Blu Ray to do a direct comparison, but the DVDs look good to me. Maybe I should see if Netflix has anything on Blu Ray that I already own on DVD and do that comparison... Gav, Just got a 250G PS3 yesterday... Should be here tomorrow and I cain't wait to see how the BluRay looks. harveyjoseph's Webpage JCW 210 Equipped

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Feb 24th, 2008, 12:13 PM	#3201
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	I actually realized I don't need any new cables as the PS3 will play DVDs, so I'll move the optical and HDMI cables over from that. I'll have to fire that up on the odd occasion that we want to watch a UK DVD, but that doesn't happen often.

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Feb 26th, 2008, 07:17 PM	#3202 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	Another reason I'm glad I went the Blu Ray route... TidBITS Blog Post: DRM Foils iTunes Movie Rentals for Some Apple TV Owners

Feb 28th, 2008, 01:22 AM	#3205 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jwardell (original) So..how many minutes does your blu-ray player take to actually play a disk? Minutes..?? Try 3 seconds from pushing the disc into the slot when it's on standby. The PS3 blows away almost all the stand alone players in this respect even ones up in the $800 range. Quote: How do you feel that it is already outdated and doesn't meet the newest current spec? How's it outdated..? Did they announce the PS4..? What newest spec..? BD-Live..? There are two titles released that have BD-Live features, but there are no players on the market yet. PS3 has an internet connection (wired or wireless) and will be updated to BD-Live (Profile 2.0) in May, right about the time that the first stand alone players hit the market. My whole reason for buying the PS3 as a Blu Ray player was that it is the fastest booting, most upgradable Blu Ray player. Quote: Granted I am happy the format war is over, but hd-dvd was at least smart enough to figure things out the first time. Yes, it seems that Blu Ray came to market before they'd finalized everything, but that's the reason to get an upgradable player. The PS3 is upgradable and is currently one of the best BD players, especially if you're looking for a player under $500. Did you buy an HD DVD player..?

Feb 28th, 2008, 12:01 PM	#3207 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	Roughly Drafted going overboard...? Imagine that..! That guy is OCD in extreme.

Mar 1st, 2008, 01:29 PM	#3209 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original) I'd seriously consider AppleTV with the update, but I think the selection available on Blu Ray through Netflix, and the near price parity is going to put a PS3 in my future... Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original) I don't want to plug it in yet in case there's condensation inside - it's c-c-c-cold outside, but I have an initial impression of the PS3: it's heavy! Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original) I actually realized I don't need any new cables as the PS3 will play DVDs, so I'll move the optical and HDMI cables over from that. Quote: Originally Posted by jwardell (original) I thought you were saying you had a standalone. PS3 is still currently the only decent answer (and amazingly, the cheapest, too). Plus it plays rock band. Exactly. Cheapest, fastest booting, most upgradable, oh and games too. I've only ever been considering the PS3 as the Blu Ray player. The choice was between that and AppleTV. Glad I went with PS3 / Blu Ray. Assassin's Creed has filled the week of recovery nicely..! Don't know when I'll get another week of sitting on the couch to finish the second half though.

Mar 1st, 2008, 01:34 PM	#3210 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	PS3 Movies reviews: Spiderman 3: Nice effects, I suppose it shows off Blu Ray pretty well which is why they bundle it (and it's a Sony release too so it costs them next to nothing). Cheesy story, but what do you expect with this franchise. Shooter: Watched our first Netflix Blu Ray rental last night. I liked this movie and again, a lot of the effects show off Blu Ray nicely. Big explosions in one scene. Regular DVDs: I guess it's because my plasma is 'only' 720p, but the PS3 does a good job of upscaling regular DVDs. I don't have anything on DVD and Blu Ray to do a direct comparison, but the DVDs look good to me. Maybe I should see if Netflix has anything on Blu Ray that I already own on DVD and do that comparison...

Mar 5th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#3212 (permalink)
bethandlouis #1 Stink Clown Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 2 hours away Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 1,733 Offline	A good movie to watch but something that I saw artifacts in is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. It would be an interesting test. Of course we are still using our DVD player from 1996. "Buy you a soda after the game?"

Mar 6th, 2008, 02:20 AM	#3213 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by harveyjoseph (original) Gav, Just got a 250G PS3 yesterday... Should be here tomorrow and I cain't wait to see how the BluRay looks. Hey Harvey..! How's it going..? I'm confused..? 250G PS3..? Did you get one with a really big hard drive in it..?

Mar 6th, 2008, 02:20 AM	#3214 (permalink)
GadgetGav gadgetmeister Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: This Old House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,133 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by bethandlouis (original) A good movie to watch but something that I saw artifacts in is The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. It would be an interesting test. Of course we are still using our DVD player from 1996. I'll put it in our Netflix queue (if it's in Blu Ray) and let you know...

Mar 6th, 2008, 11:09 AM	#3215 (permalink)
harveyjoseph Goin to fast to look back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Merrimack, NH Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 1,825 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GadgetGav (original) Hey Harvey..! How's it going..? I'm confused..? 250G PS3..? Did you get one with a really big hard drive in it..? Well, I got the small one, 30G's and purchased a 250G and plan on changing it out when it arrives today. harveyjoseph's Webpage JCW 210 Equipped

Mar 6th, 2008, 11:58 AM	#3216 (permalink)
NoNo Pirates in my ear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Monkeyhouse Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 6,638 Offline	Nice, voiding the warranty on the first day!

Mar 6th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#3217 (permalink)
Actual Size Twi§ted Roads Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Big MAMA's House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 5,814 Offline	Why not get a Blue-Ray drive and stick it in Terry's laptop? www.mini-mama.org

Mar 7th, 2008, 12:53 AM	#3218 (permalink)
harveyjoseph Goin to fast to look back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Merrimack, NH Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 1,825 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by NoNo (original) Nice, voiding the warranty on the first day! Yea I got the damn thing and it was DOA.... Flashing red light no nothing Gotta send it back for an exchange......POS.... No woonder that I like the Wii so much. harveyjoseph's Webpage JCW 210 Equipped

Mar 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM	#3219 (permalink)
jwardell MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Newton, MA Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 5,440 Offline	That's cuz it's not submersible. http://www.jwardell.com/mini/

Mar 7th, 2008, 11:16 AM	#3220 (permalink)
Actual Size Twi§ted Roads Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Big MAMA's House Local Time: 03:44 AM Posts: 5,814 Offline	The Maxtor external drives are though. www.mini-mama.org