R56 Cooper S Remap

[Benny No.1]

Yes it was I! Had my R56 Cooper S mapped by Will on Friday 6th Feb. It was a long day... the snow made the journey a pain in the arse, litraly! But boy was it worth it! Firstly I want to highlight what a great guy Will is, is knowledge is second to none.

Firstly my car was put on the rollers to get a base to start with, it pulled on its first run 199bhp & 220lb/ft! These figures were probably helped (Quite alot) by a massive build up of snow on the intercooler from my expedition through the snow in the morning. Once all was cleared off the number was around 196bhp, can't remember the torques.

So will then went off and waved his magic wand for about 4 hrs! Now this was down to the fact that my car had been into the stealers a week before and had had an software update and Will had to download it from his serect backstreet BMW bunker, so he could sprikle it with fairy dust. I think you need some more bandwidth from your broadband Will!

Now all sorted my car was run again and it pulled a pant wetting 230bhp and 260lb/ft torque!
Thats on the standard cat & exhaust. I can confirm it picks up and goes like anything you can believe... in any gear... at any speed!

Mark me down as completely sold! Couldn't recomend P-Torque enough. Keep up the good work Will.

James what gains did you see?

[Jimbo1989]

Totally agree with Ben! Anyone looking for a remap go straight to Will! Ben, I saw roughly the same figures as you although for some reason mine was doing a 192bhp stock on it's first run before Will had sorted everything out! I think on my print out it was 232bhp or there about! Which I couldn't believe! Cannot believe what a difference it has made to the car! What kind of differences have you noticed performance wise ben? You will have to let me know if your returning to the nurburgring in the summer as like I said may be there also!!

[Benny No.1]

Performance is now epic. It’s the torque that is the most impressive though, it just wafts you along. And as I said it can be in any gear at any speed! I'm going to be at the Italian Job rolling road day on the 1st March so ill have an independent run done @ AmD Essex just to prove it’s all for real! Not that I doubt anything because I can feel the difference, but it’s nice to get it independently verified.

I shall let you know of any developing plans for the Nurburgring James.

[ayde_bury]

I've also paid a visit to Will last week. Cracking service on my R56s, the car feels like it's been given a new lease of life.

Will post the charts up when Will emails them through to me, he had some technical problems after a breaking - but was still able to remap the car

[gtm-ken]

HI there

What if anything changes with the "overboost" function after the remap.....does it stay the same.....holds for longer.....dissapears...??

Is the remap still available at the discounted price.....

Thanks
Ken

[rec]

ok, does this work with the Auto Start/Stop stuff ?
also, will this be noticed by my dealer ?
how easy is it to go back to standard if required ?
if the dealer upgrades the software in the ECU, will the remap be gone forever and ever and ever ?

[Performance_Torque]

Quote: Originally Posted by gtm-ken (original)

HI there

What if anything changes with the "overboost" function after the remap.....does it stay the same.....holds for longer.....dissapears...??

Is the remap still available at the discounted price.....

Thanks
Ken

Hi Ken

The overboost function is basically just a sport button which increases throttle response by a percentage. This will work exactly the same once mapped.

The remap is £345.00 all in, including dyno runs before and after

[Performance_Torque]

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

ok, does this work with the Auto Start/Stop stuff ?
also, will this be noticed by my dealer ?
how easy is it to go back to standard if required ?
if the dealer upgrades the software in the ECU, will the remap be gone forever and ever and ever ?

Hi

Start/Stop is no problem, we have been tuning all R56 models for months now, and are still the only UK tuner offering OBD tuning on them with a vast knowledge of the software.

We have been approached by many tuners in other countries, both to make software for them , and dealer enquiries.

We are also working with Milltek to be their official tuner for the full exhaust systems.

The upgrade is invisible to the dealer. If an upgrade is carried out, we will flash it back to tuned state free of charge

[GoFaStEr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Performance_Torque (original)

Hi There

No need! The mapping is well within the clutch and gearbox capabilities.

Hi, erm... to what extent can you know this for sure?

Surely to tune a cars power and torque to that extent without carrying out other strengthening / breathing modifications is asking for trouble down the line though?

I realise there must be parameters that parts are manufactured within having certain tolerances etc.. but there must also be a reason why they are not manufactured at 230 bhp & 260 lbs torque?

Please forgive my skepticisim

My previous car was a turbo diesel, i had it remapped by a very highly recommended company and the turbo blew up in under 15months costing me £1500, the tuner assured me it was perfectly safe

[Performance_Torque]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoFaStEr (original)

Hi, erm... to what extent can you know this for sure?

Surely to tune a cars power and torque to that extent without carrying out other strengthening / breathing modifications is asking for trouble down the line though?

I realise there must be parameters that parts are manufactured within having certain tolerances etc.. but there must also be a reason why they are not manufactured at 230 bhp & 260 lbs torque?

Please forgive my skepticisim

My previous car was a turbo diesel, i had it remapped by a very highly recommended company and the turbo blew up in under 15months costing me £1500, the tuner assured me it was perfectly safe

Hi

Because we have been tuning the R56 since its release in 2006, and had no issues with transmission, turbos or anything else for that matter.

With regards to your turbo diesel, either you had bad luck, or a bad tuner.

Lets now forget, a non tuned car can have a failed turbo so its not necessarily a link.

The manufacturers don't get it right I'm afraid, hence why an exhaust alone will free up a further 15 - 20hp on the R56... this is also reducing back pressure and therefore strain on the turbo too

Hope this helps

[GoFaStEr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Performance_Torque (original)

Hi

Because we have been tuning the R56 since its release in 2006, and had no issues with transmission, turbos or anything else for that matter.

With regards to your turbo diesel, either you had bad luck, or a bad tuner.

Lets now forget, a non tuned car can have a failed turbo so its not necessarily a link.

The manufacturers don't get it right I'm afraid, hence why an exhaust alone will free up a further 15 - 20hp on the R56... this is also reducing back pressure and therefore strain on the turbo too

Hope this helps

Thanks for your speedy response, are you able to carry out limited torque maps too?

One final question, on my stock dyno print out for my new R56 cooper s its showing peak bhp of 180.9 bhp, average 200lbs torque in some places rising to 208lbs (maybe overboost?) but right at the 2300 rpm point torque soars to 230lbs to form a point & immediately sharly slopes back down to 200lbs/ft again almost like the engine management has 'told' it to back off...

Is that actually happening? I can post up a copy of the print out tomorrow if you like

Thanks in advance

[Performance_Torque]

Hi

Yes, we can limit torque further.

Please post your graph up or e-mail it me at info@p-torque.co.uk so I can examine it

Thanks

[GoFaStEr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Performance_Torque (original)

Hi


Please post your graph up or e-mail it me at info@p-torque.co.uk so I can examine it

Thanks

I'l try and post it up tomorrow
My 0-60 seems to be around 6-6.5secs with my current BHP. Leaving torque out of it for a second, any ideas how much a remap might shave off my 0-60 time? say if the car was running 230 bhp?

[Performance_Torque]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoFaStEr (original)

I'l try and post it up tomorrow
My 0-60 seems to be around 6-6.5secs with my current BHP. Leaving torque out of it for a second, any ideas how much a remap might shave off my 0-60 time? say if the car was running 230 bhp?

Hi

To be honest, we haven't accurately tested this... maybe some of the members running the P-Torque map will be able to give you an idea?

[neilobe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Performance_Torque (original)

Hi

To be honest, we haven't accurately tested this... maybe some of the members running the P-Torque map will be able to give you an idea?

I was going to do some 0-60 runs and 30-70 mph in mine and post up the videos, but weather has been so on and off in the evenings, hope to get round to doing it this coming week
Will post up when done