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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #21
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Well done Jan!! excellent max numbers
Without a doubt the laminova cores are the best for air cooling,
Re oil pumps- @ such high rpms I would suggest an oil cooler to give additional oil quantity and cooling,also a couple of failures seem to have come from the pick up screen in sump I would suggest that a larger screen is required.
Stronger valve springs may prove necessary if you havent already done this.
great result keep up the good work
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 02:26 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well done Jan!! excellent max numbers
Without a doubt the laminova cores are the best for air cooling,
Re oil pumps- @ such high rpms I would suggest an oil cooler to give additional oil quantity and cooling,also a couple of failures seem to have come from the pick up screen in sump I would suggest that a larger screen is required.
Stronger valve springs may prove necessary if you havent already done this.
great result keep up the good work


thanks Adam!
We are working on some billet oil pump gears to start since the factory ones are powdered metal.

I have already made a special sump pickup that I will be offering in the next month. Install is a snap. For the valve springs we have always used dual springs of the highest quality. They are good to 10,000rpms and massive boost if needed. We also have changed the keepers and got rid of the 3 groove BMW type as they have been known to drop valves all the time in extreme conditions. Ours have never dropped a valve and many of the cars rev to 8k daily.

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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 04:34 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Even better news re oil pump!
The ignition may start to feel its limitations at the very high rpms,individual coils may prove beneficial especially with high boost /rpm combination and if cylinder scavenging not 100% (your revised header could help here)
keep up the good work
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Even better news re oil pump!
The ignition may start to feel its limitations at the very high rpms,individual coils may prove beneficial especially with high boost /rpm combination and if cylinder scavenging not 100% (your revised header could help here)
keep up the good work
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these cars are running normal boost pressures which makes it more impressive

we have run the stock ignition to well over 30psi with twincharging and turbo only with no issues

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 09:55 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Sounds great..... However have I missed something...... how are you getting all that extra power ? Is your approach something new above and beyond the normal, pulley change, intercooler, head work ect that other tuning companies offer ?

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Sounds great..... However have I missed something...... how are you getting all that extra power ? Is your approach something new above and beyond the normal, pulley change, intercooler, head work ect that other tuning companies offer ?

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Our parts have been designed to work together from the start. This was a holistic approach not just a let's make parts so I have something to sell. Each part was tested carefully before going forward. It took 8 months to get the cylinder head right which is the MOST important part of the puzzle. We are into racing which is why the parts have to work, there is no place to hide on the track. The laminova intercooler has been tested now for over 6mo on the street and track. The inlet temps are unheard of for a Eaton powered car.

We don't know of any "tuning" companies that do what we do. Actually make the systems and tune them ourselves. It's the only way to get it done right.

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
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currently that is top secret.....

Blimey everything is top secret; the pully size, the first UK car with the kit

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:21 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)
Well we know the US likes to use 19% SCharger pulleys (that is not a sarcastic comment)


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Actually, from what I have seen, it is the UK that likes the 19% and the US that sticks more to the 15 - 17......

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rigsey (original)
Blimey everything is top secret; the pully size, the first UK car with the kit

we are about ready to tune the car that is in the UK.... it should be fun

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:47 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Actually, from what I have seen, it is the UK that likes the 19% and the US that sticks more to the 15 - 17......

I honestly thought the US was 19% - but maybe that was just hearsay (not the naff pop group!)

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I honestly thought the US was 19% - but maybe that was just hearsay (not the naff pop group!)

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A lot of the auto x guys like the 19% , I suppose its suits car park racing quite well.

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We had a lot of ex F1 race parts on our car, I used to make a lot off parts for our car there as well, that was before they went to working 24-7.

The funniest thing in the world is to see all that warehouse, machines etc etc for these 2 little cars sitting there...............memories

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we are about ready to tune the car that is in the UK.... it should be fun

Look foward to seeing the results ... and the pulley size

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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 02:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Look foward to seeing the results ... and the pulley size

the owner "lurks" among you

I think he wants to have fun at the track

his car I believe is a 15% pulley

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Thanks for the information to date..... should be an interesting few months ahead as you get the first UK car completed and we get to read about the design in more detail.

Have you taken the selling price into account in your design / material choice? Do you aim to make your conversion cheaper than the competitors ?

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Thanks for the information to date..... should be an interesting few months ahead as you get the first UK car completed and we get to read about the design in more detail.

Have you taken the selling price into account in your design / material choice? Do you aim to make your conversion cheaper than the competitors ?

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We have the lowest margins in the business as we use only the best parts and still have pricing at or below our competitors parts with high margins. Quality is a big thing with us and making sure you have the best parts for the money is in our company policy.
I think if you see our heads/ manifolds etc up close you will agree.
They are works of art

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Old Jan 29th, 2008, 10:40 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Congrats on the results. They look very impressive.


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Old Jan 29th, 2008, 12:41 PM   #38 (permalink)
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i though i knew who it was, thought it was R1KDe due to his Ebay listing, but maybe not
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Im guessing 300GP.
Can we have a comp jan. Whoever guesses right gets a free rmw conversion lol
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Old Jan 29th, 2008, 12:57 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Here is a graph of the 262whp car with water to air etc vs my last dyno run of my stroker with stock JCW pulley and different collector. We gained 3peak ft lbs of torque and 5-7ft lbs in different areas not to mention picking up another 6whp up top with the new collector
This car also has stock JCW air box, stock GP intercooler and TB etc.... if I open the hood it looks bone stock

Look at the difference in torque

22.4 ft lbs of torque more than the other beast.........
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