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Old Dec 28th, 2007, 09:31 AM
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That is a strange 1!
The Tax will go off the manufacturers specification at time of registration,might be worth taking it up with your dealer...
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Old Dec 28th, 2007, 09:34 AM
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Yes, the emmissions have changed between yours being made and current production.

I've never heard of anyone being able to get the CO2 rating of their car changed.


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Stiggy the only reason so many 100, 000s immigrate here in the UK is because we are the only nation softy enough to pay for them! That tax your paying is contributing to their living!

I think its unfair to say that its contributing to their living, maybe some.. but most legal migrants from new EU nations are here to find jobs that we don't want to do.

If you go to some places in the west midlands where we have large council flats that house thousands of people. You will hardly find any new immigrants in there. Most are on income support & housing benefits.

Let me put it this way, if there are 000's of people coming over to find jobs why can't these people get themselves a job when they have a big advantage, that is the language! Minimum wages is not a problem if a man has the heart to work hard he will work himself up! But the fact is we have millions of lazy people in this country who live on benefits and blame everything on the immigrants and come out with things like “they taken all our jobs”! And we pay for these lazy people to live, feed and talk rubbish!

The hospitality industry (Hotels ect) relies on immigrant workers because they find it extremely hard to find polite and courteous people who can speak English. Most kids who come through seem to have attitude problems and don’t know what customer service is!
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It really annoys me when people go on about 'rip-off Britian' and high taxes. If Britian is so bad, why are 100,000s of people immigrating here? Mind you, people who moan about taxes tend to moan about 'foreigners coming here and taking our jobs' too!

May I suggest you spend a week in Denmark paying 20% VAT (plus service charges) on everything before you complain.


First bold bit.......
1) Because the huge majority are coming from Hell Holes to a country that will give them all they need to live. The biggest free ride they'll ever get (comparitively
2) Because we are stupid enough to let them live as they do in their own country, whereas most other countries won't.
3) They are taking jobs that are at the 'low end' of skill levels (no offence btw), therefore we're importing people more likely to need financial support. The huge majority of imigrants are not bringing sought after skills with them.... And that's for the imigrants we know about - our super Government not being able to count them

Second bold bit.........
I don't think for one moment anyone would complain if the standards of public transport, health and education were as good as Denmark.

Unfortunately, when it comes to value for money and the services we should expect for the huge amounts we pay - this really is 'rip-off Britain'.

And before the suggestion is made to move out, yes, that's what we're planning for - I'm a bit tired of my kids not being able to sing 'Ba Ba Blacksheep' (has to be 'white'), possibly being fined for saying, 'ginger beer' and other garbage that might upset a social defender of the poor under-trodden.

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Australia has it right
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yes by forcefully stealing land from the natives..
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The hospitality industry (Hotels ect) relies on immigrant workers because they find it extremely hard to find polite and courteous people who can speak English. Most kids who come through seem to have attitude problems and don’t know what customer service is!

Yep. Many industries now rely on immigrant workers.

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yes by forcefully stealing land from the natives..



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I know this is off topic for the original subject of road tax, but whilst we are on the subject of Foreign workers in UK.

In our local Tesco store, we asked for some help to find an item we needed, off 1 person all we got was "Don't speak English" The girl in Question was stacking shelfs, so we approached another guy, who mumbled something in what I think may of been polish, and then hinted for us to follow him to an English speaking shelf stacker.
Now normally we would say that employing polish/foreign workers is cheap labour, but surely these guys and girls would be on min wage?
If so, why not employ English workers that could quite easily do their job and actually reply in English to you?
Is it some sort of scheme Tesco are employing or is it that the foreign workers willwork harder than the UK workers...
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I know this is off topic for the original subject of road tax, but whilst we are on the subject of Foreign workers in UK.

In our local Tesco store, we asked for some help to find an item we needed, off 1 person all we got was "Don't speak English" The girl in Question was stacking shelfs, so we approached another guy, who mumbled something in what I think may of been polish, and then hinted for us to follow him to an English speaking shelf stacker.
Now normally we would say that employing polish/foreign workers is cheap labour, but surely these guys and girls would be on min wage?
If so, why not employ English workers that could quite easily do their job and actually reply in English to you?
Is it some sort of scheme Tesco are employing or is it that the foreign workers willwork harder than the UK workers...

I used to work for Tesco as a manager until the summer of this year. Our store was one of the first in the UK to employ Polish workers as part of the company's trial scheme.

The deal with the polish workers is that they are recruited in Poland (where Tesco have several stores anyway).

They can come to work in the UK stores, normally in the night-shifts because it has become very difficult to fill these vacancies.

The workers are paid EXACTLY the same as any other worker on the same shift and they are also entitled to the same benefits as every other member of staff.

However, Tesco does rent them their accomadation, for which they pay and give them a bicycle so they may travel to work. They also give them English lessons which are done in their own time, usually at the end of their shift.

It seems though, that some stores will recruit almost anyone these days, and the trial scheme that we took part in several years ago now (incidentally, ALL of the original Polish people are still there) is now defunct as the search for staff has become very desperate and consequently, as long as someone has a permit to work for the UK, they will employ anyone these days

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At least around half of the unemployed people are unemployed because they choose to stay unemployed.

They are used to not working, and are under the delusion that they can find a job that will pay 50K if it wasn’t for the immigrants.

We have a high teenage pregnancy rate, partly due to 16 year olds that see having a baby as an easy way to obtain a council house.

Immigrants are all no angels, but the problems we face are our own. Not something that ‘They’ brought in like the BNP would have you believed.
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