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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 12:01 PM
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Just a quick one, do all R56's (a cooper in this case) use a dual mass flywheel? I was under the impression they were, but the mini dealership (service manager no less) is insisting my car (57 plate justa cooper) is a 'traditional' single mass flywheel - could this be the case?
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 12:46 PM
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Enter your r56 Mini's details into here and the part number/diagram may help you confirm what is fitted:
RealOEM.com Online BMW Parts Catalog

Certainly some models of earlier R50 Mini's used traditional flywheels rather than DMF's.
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 12:51 PM
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yeh real OEM shows me this -

RealOEM.com BMW R56 Cooper Flywheel / Twin Mass Flywheel
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I wonder what the service manager will say now
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yeh, will be quoting the part at him.

Either way i'm trying to get it replaced as they just replaced the clutch but in doing so broke the camshaft oil seal, so new clutch time, i'm guessing the flywheel is susceptible to oil contamination?
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Do you mean the crankshaft oil seal ?

The flywheel will clean up, unless the clutch has been slipping that badly that its burnt the flywheel / clutch face.
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sorry, epic typo, crankshaft oil seal

The clutch symptom it had previous to this was a judder, but they only replaced the clutch
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Does it still judder now ?
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nope clutch feels fine..
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So in theory it was the clutch rather than the flywheel that was causing the juddering
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yes, but what damage has a warped clutch face done to the flywheel It's more that i bought this car from the mini dealer so i want everything to be as right as possible.

The 'cherised' status is a joke though - it's only that i'm handy with the spanners myself i've spotted the numerous issues with all the cars i viewed (admittedly we were looking at 5 year old ones...)
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It means I think, the dealer cherishes your custom and your money
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ok so checked in with BMW this morning and two things stand out to me.

The description of part 11227561765 is 'Flywheel' and it costs £233.34 from BMW, the dealer print out shows the description as 'Flywheel/Twin Mass Flywheel'

I therefore do suspect that my car does NOT have a dual mass flywheel, the price is way cheaper than a dual mass flywheel would be and i suspect they use a generic title and picture for the flywheel.

Going to ask for a photo of my flywheel since it will be exposed anyhow, but i suspect i have a single mas flywheel. The chap at BMW (different branch) said they haven't sold any of these, but they do for the cooper S.
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Don't quote me but I think only the cooper S and Deisels have the dual mass flywheel to handle the extra torque.
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Don't quote me but I think only the cooper S and Deisels have the dual mass flywheel to handle the extra torque.

The dual mass flywheel is designed to take the harshness and take the snatch somewhat out of the drive train, that is why a lot of diesels now seem so smooth to drive where as a few years ago they were rough and ready and agricultural to drive.
Its not really to with extra torque.
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