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Old Apr 13th, 2014, 09:19 PM
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First Mini Help !

Maybe it would better if I gave some history and details

- it will be used to 'mainly' transport just my wife and I
- likely to be under 8k miles a year mainly local
- As we are 40+ insurance is not an issue
- ideal budget 3,000-6,000
- not mechanics, use local garage to fix things
- I have had.. wait for it 40+ cars from 4x4's to Tr4a's !
- we like a bit of speed
- we've had a lot of Tdi engines

OK now the questions..

1.6 Cooper or 1.6 Cooper
Petrol or Diesel
pre 2005 ( if thats the right year ? ) or post


We have seen a few and driven both a 1.6D, 1.6Petrol and 1.6 S. We noticed there was a lot more torque in the diesel and certainly the cooper s we tried was very hard on the old bones..

Any advice would be great
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Old Apr 17th, 2014, 12:06 PM
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Hi Small Zoo,

I have recently just purchased a 2009 Cooper infact I picked it up yesterday.

If your looking for a Pre-2005 Model then I would recommend posting in the 1st Generation Model Section and the 2nd Generation is 06/07 onwards.

As for engines unless your doing at least 15,000 miles per year the diesel is not worth it as you won't do the mileage to cover the extra cost as even second hand the diesel has a premium over petrol.

I chose the Cooper over the Cooper S purely down to a mechanical reasoning the Cooper not having a Supercharger or Turbo changer means theres less risk of mechanical failure, ok it's not as quick but it's quick enough and very fun at legal speeds.

I hope this helps you on your mini search
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Petrol vs diesel

Thanks for the reply but I can never quite understand the expensive diesel argument

e.g. 8000 miles a year

Annual cost diesel (@65mpg/136.6) = 765
Tax per year = 20
Total Cost for Diesel per year = 785
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Annual cost petrol (@38mpg/129.6) = 1240
Tax per year = 175
Total Cost for Diesel per year = 1415
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Thats a saving of around 700 per year !.. and that doesnt include the fact that the servicing is less for the diesel and depreciation is lower


Im happy for people to disagree but based on these approx figures it makes sense for a diesel ?

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Diesel is no good for mileages under 14000 mile a year, they clog up, the particulate filters, if only used for short journeys and they go into slow motion mode unless the garage strips and cleans it out which can cost a lot.
Low mileage need petrol.

Anything you save on fuel will be spent on garage bills to clean out the filter.
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Thanks for that but I've already spoken to my local garage that always looks after my cars and he has a cooper d, never had a problem. Ive had over 40 cars and never had a problem with diesels as long as once in a while you give them a blast
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Well yes thats it you need to give them a jolly good run so the filter goes into clean down mode, so if youre only using it around town it may never do that and thats when you have problems, if youre doing motorway miles regularly then you may get away with it and the particulate filters have only been fitted as standard since I think it was 2011 so any diesel before this doesnt have the problem but all since then will.
Something to bear in mind when youre choosing?
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