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Hi everyone,

I've lined up two minis to go and see this weekend, now I know that I won't know much until I've given them the once over and had a test drive so open to advise or tips as it will just be me and a non driving friend going to see them.

First one is 08 Cooper racing green 42k miles only 1 owner from new with lots of spec including :
17" Crown Spoke Alloys
Anthracite Roof Lining
Bi-Xenon Headlights
CHILI Pack
Colour Line Cream White
Front Centre Arm Rest
Front Seat Heating
Interior Trim Piano Black
Interior World Tuscan Beige
Leather interior
Metallic paint
Parking sensors
Air Con


Second is 09 black Cooper 28k miles with 2 owners from new which includes:
CHILLI pack
Part leather seats
Air Con
15" Alloys


The first one is from a mini dealer and the second is from a local sales place. I'm being swayed by the first one due to the warranty and extras that the mini dealer gives however the second one has low miles and it slightly cheaper.

Does anyone know of major issues with these 2nd gen years 08 and 09? Also tips on what problem areas to check would be great.

Thanks
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Sadly the second Gen R56 is full of issues way more imho that any of my first gens at an equivalent mileage as i discovered to my horror especially the petrol models,valve issues,timing chains,carbon problems,engine electrical issues,valvetronic problems,all you need do is look in the forums, the diesel engine is great we have a cooper d and with nearly twice the mileage of our petrol cooper haven't had a single issue in over a year,the diesel engines were a ford euro based engine whilst the petrols had the crappy PSA Peugeot/citroen engine not worthy of the Mini/Bmw name imo.......my petrol cooper is 07 and from reading the forums a lot of the issues are starting to surface now at 50-90k many whilst still under warranty at like 20k .....if it were me i would'nt even dream of buying another petrol R56 without a main dealer warranty even if it was £1000s cheaper......if something goes wrong £1000 is pocket change most of the time to diagnose and repair the fault.........just my tuppence worth man from what i've read and experienced first hand with my own cooper........if you do decide to buy outside without dealer warranty i would insist on a full service history so at least if any of the recall issues go wrong the dealer MAY still cover you......

Things to check

no eml/or dash lights on inc airbag
rumbling or knocking from the rear over bumps
Clicking or knocking from the from when taking off in first
no smoke on startup and while driving
The car should Idle smoothly with no dips or peaks
No lag when under acceleration all the way through the rev range... yes to the red line...
Check for any oil around the engine joints ie head/rockercover
Car should start first time hot or cold
Check for smooth engagement of the clutch biteing point usually around mid pedal..... too high is not good
Check for sticky gearchanges or grinding or non centering gear stick when returning to neutral
Test drive the car and drive it HARD for at least 45 mins or more on all road conditions

Thats just what i would check if i were buying obvious most of it.... but we can all get bitten from time to time with cars

Hope i haven't scared you off still a cracking wee car if you manage to get a good un i absolutely love our cooper D puts a smile on my face every time i drive it....
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Hope i haven't scared you off still a cracking wee car if you manage to get a good un i absolutely love our cooper D puts a smile on my face every time i drive it....
Not scared off but heading out the door thanks for the checklist, some of those things I wouldn't have thought to check so added to my book.

I'm wondering if the issues are for the first release 2nd gens or do they extend right though the mods?

I must admit the year warranty is swaying me more but I'm worried about what the warranty will include and more importantly exclude.

Kit
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Hi everyone,

I've lined up two minis to go and see this weekend, now I know that I won't know much until I've given them the once over and had a test drive so open to advise or tips as it will just be me and a non driving friend going to see them.

First one is 08 Cooper racing green 42k miles only 1 owner from new with lots of spec including :
17" Crown Spoke Alloys
Anthracite Roof Lining
Bi-Xenon Headlights
CHILI Pack
Colour Line Cream White
Front Centre Arm Rest
Front Seat Heating
Interior Trim Piano Black
Interior World Tuscan Beige
Leather interior
Metallic paint
Parking sensors
Air Con


Second is 09 black Cooper 28k miles with 2 owners from new which includes:
CHILLI pack
Part leather seats
Air Con
15" Alloys


The first one is from a mini dealer and the second is from a local sales place. I'm being swayed by the first one due to the warranty and extras that the mini dealer gives however the second one has low miles and it slightly cheaper.

Does anyone know of major issues with these 2nd gen years 08 and 09? Also tips on what problem areas to check would be great.

Thanks

Hi ya

Personally I would go for the first one it's a much better spec, less owners and from mini the second one make think there something wrong low milage 2 owners an independent garage uuuummm not shore. Hard to say with out seeing them.
make shore they have all the normal stuff ie service history and all the books that are meant to come with the car. And try to get a inspection II carried out before you buy it, and any recalls have been done.
The coopers are not a bad car the cooper s is really where the problems start.

If you are un shore of what to look for, I would go see the car drive it for at least 30 min and then go in the passengers seat for 15 min more, Try everything that's electrical window radio A/c everything. Take a pen and proper with you and write down stuff.
if you like it put a deposited on it which is refundable pending a vehicle inspection then get the AA or RAC to do a vehicle inspection on it there not cheep but could save you a fortune, that way you should be ok.
Get it writing that's it's a refundable deposit pending vehicle inspection. And that if they find anything it then can be discussed and fixed.

It sounds like a nice car but I would not want you going in and spending your hard earned on a reck and never be affrayed to walk away


Hope this help

Ps when you get one post some pics :-) hope you get what you want
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