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Hi, Newbie here,
Just got my first mini last week - a 14plate cooper sd roadster in lightning blue. She is gorgeous, but I'm having a minor issue with the automatic xenon headlights and the daytime running lights option.
So far the dealer has been unable to explain to me exactly how these two work together or separately, and thus I need to help of other owners. The car is a UK spec car (not sure if that makes a difference?) (and yes I have read the manual, but to no avail).

The issue is - with lights set to auto (position 3 on the stalk )(and dlr off) - my full xenons are on permanently, regardless of weather and daylight conditions - i had assumed, like on my previous car that when sunny etc., the auto lights would automatically switch themselves off?!

With the DLR option turned on - again, my full headlamps are on fully - I would have assumed them to be at half power, or only the lower lamps in the bumper would be on.

The other issue appears to be, regardless of the settings being used - my speedo and rev counter are illuminated, which to me means my headlights are on.

Please can someone help - I'm off to the dealer tomorrow (saturday) morning for some assistance, but since they can't explain it to me on the phone, I some how doubt it will be any better in person.

Thanks in advance!!
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It sounds like there is a problem with the sensor that turns the lights on and off. Mine seem to be on unless it is really sunny.
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If Auto is selected the headlights should come on in low light conditions and be off in bright light, but there is a daylight running option selectable on the car computer to allow the headlights to be on dip all the time.
They wont come on half power on the daylight running mode, only normal dip.

So if the daylight running option is not selected and auto is, the lights should go on and off themselves as the daylight brightness level dictates.
Thats how mine work.

I know if auto is selected and the lights come on they take a while to go back off once the light level increases this is so they arent flashing on and off at short intervals.

Maybe your sensor is obstructed by a windscreen sticker? I think the sensor that controls the headlights is the bump on the top of the dash in the middle near the screen and the sensor behind the mirror that can be seen on the screen from the outside is the wiper rain sensor.
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Thanks for the responses - I had wondered whether or not the auto headlights were either too sensitive or not sensitive enough.

Its sunny here today and they came on this morning. I will turn them back to Auto and drive back to work and will check when at the office to see if they're on or off.

My neighbour has a Jag which is always parked in his garage - he said that his auto lights always come on and stay on for a good couple of minutes before going off, even in bright sunlight - perhaps the mini ones work in the same way, as The Nun suggested.
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All now sorted - thanks for the advise - just need to leave them switched to auto with the dlr option off and they sort themselves out after a few minutes!!
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I've had a few issues with my auto lights turning on in shadows then turning off in sunlight. Sounds like they need to work on the software for this. Mine turn off almost instantaneously once I drive out of a garage though, they don't take long at all.
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I've had a few issues with my auto lights turning on in shadows then turning off in sunlight.
What, you mean they turn on when it's dark and turn off when it's light? And that's a problem?

My city has a road with a series of underpasses and I enjoy watching the auto lights switch on and off each time.
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If you dont like how it works you do have the manual option of course, like the olden days.
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What, you mean they turn on when it's dark and turn off when it's light? And that's a problem?

My city has a road with a series of underpasses and I enjoy watching the auto lights switch on and off each time.
Well they will turn off during the day, but when I am in the shadow of a tree or something they will turn back on sometimes. Also, the auto dimming rear view mirror dims all the time during daytime, I suppose from reflections of other cars, but then dims only sometimes at night when I really need it.

It wouldn't be an issue, but those Xenon headlights are not designed to be turned on and off rapidly, they burn out much quicker that way, and they're extremely expensive to replace. I've had BMWs with the same auto dimming and auto headlight options and never had these problems before, so I think it's a software or sensor issue.
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