Remapped Cooper vs. Remapped Cooper D?

[fraser_2k7]

Hi guys. Currently deciding on wether to order a new cooper or cooper D. Whichever i get i'll end up having it remapped. My question is which do people will think end up faster/more fun to drive??? Angel tuning are offering remaps for both. Specs are as follows...

R56 Cooper
Stock...
118 Bhp - 118 lb.ft torque.
Remapped....
131 Bhp - 132 lb.ft torque.

R56 Cooper D
Stock...
108 Bhp - 177 lb.ft torque.
Remapped...
143 Bhp - 227 lb.ft torque.

[iain cooper]

the petrol will always be more fun to drive as the diesel will always run out of steam, ie will never have the same power band as the petrol.

if you are going to spend money on remaps etc, go for the petrol everytime.

[jamesbeaumont]

Quote: Originally Posted by fraser_2k7 (original)

Hi guys. Currently deciding on wether to order a new cooper or cooper D. Whichever i get i'll end up having it remapped. My question is which do people will think end up faster/more fun to drive??? Angel tuning are offering remaps for both. Specs are as follows...

R56 Cooper
Stock...
118 Bhp - 118 lb.ft torque.
Remapped....
131 Bhp - 132 lb.ft torque.

R56 Cooper D
Stock...
108 Bhp - 177 lb.ft torque.
Remapped...
143 Bhp - 227 lb.ft torque.

Hi Fraser, where did you get your info about those remaps? Ive never heard of one for the cooper. Bear in mind they well affect your warranty. I have a cooper so Im biased, i love it and its great fun, will be getting a bluefin when its available. Im not saying I dont like the doopers though. As standard the cooper is very slightly quicker but with remaps the dooper has the edge. It depends what you use your car for, your mileage etc. Doopers and fantastically economical and eager, the cooper is quite a mover but needs to be worked to get it really going.

[fraser_2k7]

Hi James, the info is from Chip Tuning VW, BMW, Audi and Alfa Romeo - Angel Tuning, they dont yet have the cooper remap listed on their site but if you drop them an email, they'll get back to you with the information.
So if both cars were remapped (Cooper & Cooper D) do people think the Dooper would have better 0-60, mid range punch, top speed etc?

[jamesbeaumont]

My guess for after remaps would be very similar 0-60 (8 secs or so), top speeds both around 130 but midrange on a Dooper would be better. However a Cooper should have a great powerband after a chip. Youd be able to go faster easier in a Dooper but maybe have more fun in a Cooper. Sorry, Im not helping!

[dalboyne]

So, here in Luxembourg, where diesel remains cheaper than petrol (66p per litre vs 77p), it would be smarter to go with the chipped Dooper??

[Yellow/Black OneD]

Cooper if your on the track racing every day.

Dooper if your driving on the road every day, it WILL feel much quicker in 'ordinary' day to day driving conditions + 20 more miles to the gallon of course!

[dalboyne]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow/Black OneD (original)

Cooper if your on the track racing every day.

Dooper if your driving on the road every day, it WILL feel much quicker in 'ordinary' day to day driving conditions + 20 more miles to the gallon of course!

Yup - I drive 50 miles a day just to and from work, so I'm very aware of the consumption of my current Cooper cabrio.....so here's hoping they put an oil-burner in the new-model cabrio next year!

Ian

[popey]

Maybe Im alone in saying this but I think the dooper is much more fun than a cooper. I cant get on with the new R56 cooper for some reason .

[fraser_2k7]

I think i may end up going for the dooper. I don't drive my car as hard as it can be driven everywhere i go, but i do want a good amount of power available for when it's wanted. I'm presuming the Dooper's big advantage in torque will make the car feel faster/pull harder?

[ALD0]

Are you going to add Exhaust and Air intake etc, in that case would suggest the Cooper, it would sound so much nicer

[fraser_2k7]

Nah I wont be adding an aftermaket exhaust, filter etc. The remap will be the only modification i'll be doing to the car.

[wimsaab]

I think after the remapped, the Dooper would be a lot faster...But the top speed and fun cooper would be great than Dooper, Cooper has better power band than dooper but in 60-100km/hr or 80-120km/hr Dooper would be a lot faster...

But if you think you will do only remap, Go for Dooper because deseil engine has less modification thing than Pestol engine, Cooper has many many engine mods waiting for you....

[Ant FR]

If you learn to drive the diesel properly it WILL be faster than the cooper for sure and a lot more fun. You have to learn to change up earlier and ride the torque in a Diesel. I still say i wish i could have my old Seat IbizaTDi engine in my MCS, with 330 lb/ft torque there was not much that could touchh it in-gear from 50-80.

If it was my money, i'd go for the Cooper D. However for the price of a modded Cooper D you could have an MCS turbo,

[Ant FR]

Quote: Originally Posted by wimsaab (original)

I think after the remapped, the Dooper would be a lot faster...But the top speed and fun cooper would be great than Dooper, Cooper has better power band than dooper but in 60-100km/hr or 80-120km/hr Dooper would be a lot faster...

But if you think you will do only remap, Go for Dooper because deseil engine has less modification thing than Pestol engine, Cooper has many many engine mods waiting for you....

Don;t agrea with that, the Diesel engine will havea lot more scope than the cooper engine. anything you can do to a petrol you can do to a diesel, Plus the diesel has a turbo, which can be modded, intercooler change, boost settings, bigger injectors. The Diesel is a lot more tubnable than the the cooper engine will ever be. Have a look at some of the VAG sites to see how much can be done to a modern day diesel