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Old Apr 28th, 2010, 12:52 PM
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R32 VS 211bhp JCW?

I have heard that it is a close race, anyone have any info, obviously in a straight line an r32 will win but I have read that the Mini is better for cornering and faster on a track. Any info??
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Old Apr 28th, 2010, 01:36 PM
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Depends who is driving them!

Are you thinking of getting either of these?
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Old Apr 28th, 2010, 01:41 PM
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i can only go by straight line speed and im running 240hp and 290ft torque and ive caught up and passed one and scoobys and ST and many other supposed fast cars. I dont think my mini corners aswell though on run flats.
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What tuning kit you running to get 240? And yeah I just got a 2010 jcw n it's the biz. I used to have a r53 jcw and that was very responsive.
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Quote: Originally Posted by witches70 (original)
i can only go by straight line speed and im running 240hp and 290ft torque and ive caught up and passed one and scoobys and ST and many other supposed fast cars. I dont think my mini corners aswell though on run flats.

Not every Scooby or ST driver is interested in racing you though.

I've driven the R32, albeit only briefly... however I'd say it was faster than the JCW, which is unsurprising really, given the extra grunt. That's not to say the MINI couldn't give the Golf a run for its money, because it probably could... just depends on the sort of roads, and who was driving.

I considered the R32 prior to buying my current JCW, but plenty of things stacked up against the VW... rude staff at the dealership, more expensive to run, tax, insure, etc, etc. and the list goes on.

No denying that it's a nice car... just a shame they aren't gonna stick the R32 engine in the Scirocco.
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my mini has more power and torque than an st and its lighter and i know my mini is quicker as my wife has the st and even when we swap she then beats me. My brother has a scooby and he cant keep up in a straigit line either. Both the golf and the scooby are quicker for the first 20 yards or so but after that i take them.
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And of course non of this ''racing'' is on public roads.

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Witches70 how have you managed 240 hp? I must say the new jcw feels faster than the r53 , seems like a different animal!
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its a cooper s anyway not a JCW. so imagine the type of power you could get from a jcw with a little bit of tinkering. I have a p torque re map and a full turbo back milltek and a itg Filter. For me it was a cheaper option doing that than buying a jcw. I must say that it absolutly flies. i had a mapped vxr before this and this is much better. Power to weight is pretty good for a car thats why its quicker than a lot me cars on my private driveway.ay.
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I might get a remap but am worried about the warranty aspect. How bad for the engine is it? Seeing as it's only. A 1.6 it seems like it could be overstretching it
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not bad as they race with this power and torque in the dunlop challenge cup so these engines can take it.
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The R32 isnt as quick as you may think - dont forget all those DT losses to contend with compared to the mini..... check out the power at the wheels and 1/4 times to see how they stack up...

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it must just be us suffolk boys that know this. There power to weight is not very good. Yes they pull away fast at first but once we are in full flow we soon pull it back.
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Quote: Originally Posted by witches70 (original)
it must just be us suffolk boys that know this. Their power to weight is not very good. Yes they pull away fast at first but once we are in full flow we soon pull it back.

R32 has circa 159 bhp / ton and the R53 JCW has circa 168bhp / ton...

For reference:

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Mk4 = 1512 kg, 14.80 @93.37
Mk5 = 1538 kg, 14.72 @94.10

R53 JCW 210 = 1140 kg 14.37 @98.21 (notice thats the R53 not even the TURBO JCW)

I admit Im comparing with the R53 rather than the R56 JCW but the R56 is supposed to be faster as stock in a straight line, no ??

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my mini has more power and torque than an st and its lighter and i know my mini is quicker as my wife has the st and even when we swap she then beats me. My brother has a scooby and he cant keep up in a straigit line either. Both the golf and the scooby are quicker for the first 20 yards or so but after that i take them.


Wow 240bhp, you da man.

remap the ST and it would trounce you, remap the scooby and again it would trounce you.

you are comparing a tuned car to a standard car, how fair is that.
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