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s_and_m · Dec 13th, 2005, 06:37 PM

Guys,

I recently had my JCW front strut brace off the car to fit an induction kit. The special aluminium nuts that were supplied with the kit all had cracks, splitting them literally in half.
This is not good as these hold the front suspension onto the car!

The nuts were never over tightened (I have a very nice torque wrench) so I can only think there was a flaw in the casting.

So if you have a JCW front strut brace and it's held on with ali bolts (they have a blue plastic lock sleeve on them), please check them for cracks.

Cheers

S

wibbly · Dec 13th, 2005, 06:50 PM

Are they not a one time fit nut....? I had a feeling I had read that somewhere....

s_and_m · Dec 13th, 2005, 07:02 PM

But they shouldn't have cracks running through them when they are on the car!

S

AidenL · Dec 13th, 2005, 07:05 PM

Must check that...........

wibbly · Dec 13th, 2005, 07:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s_and_m

But they shouldn't have cracks running through them when they are on the car!

S

Thats quite true

I thought you meant when you had them off the car

Thanks for the heads up, off to the dealers tomorrow, so think I'll get them checked

Pobsey · Dec 13th, 2005, 07:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Aiden

Must check that...........

I'll do the same...

s_and_m · Dec 13th, 2005, 07:21 PM

But I'd rather be safe than sorry! Be interested to hear what a dealer has to say if anyone else finds cracks in the nuts (oo-eer missus)

Cheers

S

MINI-Morgan · Dec 13th, 2005, 08:09 PM

Good thing you spotted it! Suprised they even used aluminium anyway.

:: Jon :: · Dec 13th, 2005, 08:22 PM

never use alloy... always stainless steel...

Damo · Dec 13th, 2005, 08:29 PM

Hmmmmm

I just spent £26 with JCW for 6 new nuts thinking I'd just fit it wrong

Not having much luck with JCW stuff at the mo, just had the JCW seats fixed under warranty.

So I have 4 JCW things on my car...

JCW wheels...loads of problems with tyre wear

...
JCW Seats...had to be fixed under warranty as rattling
JCW strut brace...had to replace the buts at my own cost

JCW sill covers...nothing much can go wrong with these....maybe they'll melt or discolour or something

Damo · Dec 13th, 2005, 08:33 PM

Going to try upload some pictures of them, the one that was really bad has literaly just fallen apart!!

Damo · Dec 13th, 2005, 08:45 PM

Here we go...

Rich_IX · Dec 13th, 2005, 08:56 PM

Ill have to check mine 2morrow :S

MINI-Morgan · Dec 13th, 2005, 09:01 PM

That terrible! They have completely fractured!

Damo · Dec 13th, 2005, 09:12 PM

Going to recheck my new ones to...
EDIT:
...just checked and they're fine at moment, however only done 600 miles tops. Last set did 10,000 miles.

MINI-Morgan · Dec 13th, 2005, 09:15 PM

Send them back to JCW with a note....

wibbly · Dec 13th, 2005, 09:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo

Going to try upload some pictures of them, the one that was really bad has literaly just fallen apart!!

Damo was that whilst they were on the car

JBfromOZ · Dec 13th, 2005, 09:55 PM

Id be interested to know how you torqued the nuts, as this is an area that Ive been schooled by my mentor in when building motors etc. The key being whether there is a dry or oiled nut or bolt being torqued up. I have been told to always lubricate with a dash of oil the face of contact to ensure a correct torque reading, as a dry nut or bolt will chafe as it is torqued, and it is possible to get highly varied readings and possibility of overtorquing

RedUn · Dec 13th, 2005, 11:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wibbly

Damo was that whilst they were on the car

nope

RedUn · Dec 13th, 2005, 11:08 PM

my strut brace has done over 11k miles and i'm happy to say that mine are alrite, must of been a bad batch

Dec 13th, 2005, 06:37 PM	#1
s_and_m 220 of your finest horses Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 6800 rpm Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 3,065 Offline	Warning! JCW Strut brace issue Guys, I recently had my JCW front strut brace off the car to fit an induction kit. The special aluminium nuts that were supplied with the kit all had cracks, splitting them literally in half. This is not good as these hold the front suspension onto the car! The nuts were never over tightened (I have a very nice torque wrench) so I can only think there was a flaw in the casting. So if you have a JCW front strut brace and it's held on with ali bolts (they have a blue plastic lock sleeve on them), please check them for cracks. Cheers S

Dec 13th, 2005, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
wibbly In my Classic Mk 1 :) Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 6,570 Offline	Are they not a one time fit nut....? I had a feeling I had read that somewhere.... \| MINIaddiction \| \| For MIDLANDS Folk in their MINI's \|

Dec 13th, 2005, 07:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
s_and_m 220 of your finest horses Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 6800 rpm Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 3,065 Offline	They may well be But they shouldn't have cracks running through them when they are on the car! S

Dec 13th, 2005, 07:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 42,173 Offline	Must check that........... *Global Moderator*

Dec 13th, 2005, 07:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
wibbly In my Classic Mk 1 :) Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 6,570 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by s_and_m But they shouldn't have cracks running through them when they are on the car! S Thats quite true I thought you meant when you had them off the car Thanks for the heads up, off to the dealers tomorrow, so think I'll get them checked \| MINIaddiction \| \| For MIDLANDS Folk in their MINI's \|

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Dec 13th, 2005, 07:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pobsey The de Chromed MINI My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Staffordshire Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 3,199 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Aiden Must check that........... I'll do the same...

Dec 13th, 2005, 07:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
s_and_m 220 of your finest horses Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 6800 rpm Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 3,065 Offline	May be the way I drive 'em But I'd rather be safe than sorry! Be interested to hear what a dealer has to say if anyone else finds cracks in the nuts (oo-eer missus) Cheers S

Dec 13th, 2005, 08:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 4,780 Offline	Good thing you spotted it! Suprised they even used aluminium anyway. One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Dec 13th, 2005, 08:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
:: Jon :: . My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 15,109 Offline	never use alloy... always stainless steel... EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Dec 13th, 2005, 08:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 10,689 Offline	Hmmmmm I just spent £26 with JCW for 6 new nuts thinking I'd just fit it wrong Not having much luck with JCW stuff at the mo, just had the JCW seats fixed under warranty. So I have 4 JCW things on my car... JCW wheels...loads of problems with tyre wear ... JCW Seats...had to be fixed under warranty as rattling JCW strut brace...had to replace the buts at my own cost JCW sill covers...nothing much can go wrong with these....maybe they'll melt or discolour or something

Dec 13th, 2005, 08:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 10,689 Offline	Going to try upload some pictures of them, the one that was really bad has literaly just fallen apart!!

Dec 13th, 2005, 08:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 10,689 Offline	Here we go... Attached Thumbnails

Dec 13th, 2005, 08:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rich_IX Official Pimp of Mini2 My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Midget Strip Club Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 4,291 Offline	Ill have to check mine 2morrow :S

Dec 13th, 2005, 09:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 4,780 Offline	That terrible! They have completely fractured! One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Dec 13th, 2005, 09:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 10,689 Offline	Going to recheck my new ones to... EDIT: ...just checked and they're fine at moment, however only done 600 miles tops. Last set did 10,000 miles.

Dec 13th, 2005, 09:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 4,780 Offline	Send them back to JCW with a note.... One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Dec 13th, 2005, 09:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
wibbly In my Classic Mk 1 :) Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 6,570 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo Going to try upload some pictures of them, the one that was really bad has literaly just fallen apart!! Damo was that whilst they were on the car \| MINIaddiction \| \| For MIDLANDS Folk in their MINI's \|

Dec 13th, 2005, 09:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
JBfromOZ JB Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Applecross WA Local Time: 04:33 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Id be interested to know how you torqued the nuts, as this is an area that Ive been schooled by my mentor in when building motors etc. The key being whether there is a dry or oiled nut or bolt being torqued up. I have been told to always lubricate with a dash of oil the face of contact to ensure a correct torque reading, as a dry nut or bolt will chafe as it is torqued, and it is possible to get highly varied readings and possibility of overtorquing

Dec 13th, 2005, 11:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 11,615 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wibbly Damo was that whilst they were on the car nope

Dec 13th, 2005, 11:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
RedUn MUGEN POWER Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: s2ki.com Local Time: 08:33 AM Posts: 11,615 Offline	my strut brace has done over 11k miles and i'm happy to say that mine are alrite, must of been a bad batch

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