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MiniFr34k · Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:58 PM

Just a silly question, but does a JCW brace help prevent mushrooming?

With the new 18's fitted on my car, mushing is starting to worry me and thinking of getting a brace to help prevent it.

Are there any other braces that could prevent this (which cost less than JCW?)

Eg.
Whiteline
M7
BMP/Promini

Thanks

MINIAC · Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:30 PM

M7 appears to have thickest "cap" on tower (but bar may have fitment issues)

Below (left to right): JCW, M7, ProMini

MiniFr34k · Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:35 PM

i think promini have also released one similar to M7.

So i guess the answer for JCW, Whiteline, and Promini (original) is no? and for M7 and promini (new) - yes? based on the thickness of the cap

MiniFr34k · Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:37 PM

btw whiteline looks heaps similar to jcw.

MINIAC · Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k

i think promini have also released one similar to M7.

The M7 used to be silver and is now powder coated black.

Looks like ProMini rebadged the silver M7

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k

So i guess the answer for JCW, Whiteline, and Promini (original) is no? and for M7 and promini (new) - yes? based on the thickness of the cap

The original ProMini does cover the tower just not as thick as the M7.

I couldn't really say how much protection any of them would offer.

MiniFr34k · Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC

Looks like ProMini rebadged the silver M7

Thats what i thought.

With the new promini - they clearly say its supposed to protect against mushrooming with this 'new' brace. But doesnt say anything for their original one.

Are they on M2? perhaps they could shed some light on this?

M7';s brace apparently protects against mushrooming from reading their comments.

Havent read anything about JCW and this issue, and didnt bother looking for whiteline.

MINIAC · Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:22 AM

ProMini is a MINI2 sponsor but I don't think they frequent the site.

According to their website, the original strut brace is made to be fitted with their air intake. If their billet strut brace is indeed a rebadged M7, their price of $152.95 is bargain when compared to the $199 list price.

You can contact ProMini at sales@promini.com.

MiniFr34k · Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:43 AM

Ive got an alta cai , so any brace will require me modding something or another.

152 for that brace is a whopping bargain - Dont think M7 would be too happy tho LOL but who cares, thats the price of competition.

Im going to email them and see what they say about this issue (old vs new & mushrooming).

Cheers.

obehave · Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC

ProMini is a MINI2 sponsor but I don't think they frequent the site.

According to their website, the original strut brace is made to be fitted with their air intake. If their billet strut brace is indeed a rebadged M7, their price of $152.95 is bargain when compared to the $199 list price.

You can contact ProMini at sales@promini.com.

It's a shame they don't post anymore. Seems since they sold Blue Thunder they don't visit. Casey used to post and his homepage is still promini.com.

That is a good price. Now if they'd clone the USS and make it cheaper I'd go for it.

n00b · Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:52 AM

I wouldn't panic about mushrooming, got a funny feeling it's slightly credible but at the same time (more likely) it's a sales pitch.

obehave · Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy

I wouldn't panic about mushrooming, got a funny feeling it's slightly credible but at the same time (more likely) it's a sales pitch.

To be fair there was some discussion of mushrooming quite a while before anybody started selling products based around it.

CoolJamJar · Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:30 AM

OK, time to out myself as the n00b I am - what is mushrooming (apart from searching fields for the magic type ;-) )....

MiniFr34k · Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:34 AM

im not the best person when it comes to explaining these things but here it goes:

mushrooming - when u hit a bad pothole, the front struts go up and dent the housing where the strut braces fit on (pushes it out). Result is that u dont have a flat surface anymore (looks like a mushroom). I think its more of an issue for those with 18's rims than 17's rims, but hey if u hit a pothole bad enough it doesnt matter i think?

obehave · Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k

im not the best person when it comes to explaining these things but here it goes:

mushrooming - when u hit a bad pothole, the front struts go up and dent the housing where the strut braces fit on (pushes it out). Result is that u dont have a flat surface anymore (looks like a mushroom). I think its more of an issue for those with 18's rims than 17's rims, but hey if u hit a pothole bad enough it doesnt matter i think?

Yep.
Lowered cars have the issue as well. Stiffer springs and less travell causing higher loads. These loads bulge the mounting surface.

n00b · Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:59 AM

Just get the M7 Pete, they claimed to solve this issue with their plate looking thing while the JCW doesn't have that plate struture to prevent mushrooming. I reckon the ultimate fix would be some of those huuuuge camber plates, like the RDR..

MiniFr34k · Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:06 AM

Hmz if i do get one, id probably go for pro mini, its frking cheaper and just as ugly haha.

My wallet is really getting thin.

n00b · Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:08 AM

mine's thinner than yours man...and you know why too

MiniFr34k · Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy

mine's thinner than yours man...and you know why too

biarch

MINIAC · Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k

My wallet is really getting thin.

You could just get the M7 strut tower reinforcement plates ... cheaper and you don't have to hack up the heat shield on your Alta intake

paulr · Mar 25th, 2006, 02:42 AM

I went with the plates. So far so good!

I didn't want the fit issues that most people who have an 05 are having. BTW, M7 has the very best customer relations!!!!

Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:58 PM	#1
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	JCW brace & Mushrooming? Just a silly question, but does a JCW brace help prevent mushrooming? With the new 18's fitted on my car, mushing is starting to worry me and thinking of getting a brace to help prevent it. Are there any other braces that could prevent this (which cost less than JCW?) Eg. Whiteline M7 BMP/Promini Thanks

Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:51 PM Posts: 8,651 Online	Couldn't find an image of the Whiteline ... M7 appears to have thickest "cap" on tower (but bar may have fitment issues) Below (left to right): JCW, M7, ProMini Attached Thumbnails

Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	i think promini have also released one similar to M7. So i guess the answer for JCW, Whiteline, and Promini (original) is no? and for M7 and promini (new) - yes? based on the thickness of the cap Attached Thumbnails

Mar 25th, 2006, 02:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
paulr Ramblin Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Local Time: 04:51 AM Posts: 188 Offline	I went with the plates. So far so good! I didn't want the fit issues that most people who have an 05 are having. BTW, M7 has the very best customer relations!!!! "So," I said after I'd had enough, "you've ruined it". Chicago MINI Motoring Club \| R56 & R53 \| PPW 12, MMC 284, TRIP312 \|

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Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	btw whiteline looks heaps similar to jcw.

Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:51 PM Posts: 8,651 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k i think promini have also released one similar to M7. The M7 used to be silver and is now powder coated black. Looks like ProMini rebadged the silver M7 Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k So i guess the answer for JCW, Whiteline, and Promini (original) is no? and for M7 and promini (new) - yes? based on the thickness of the cap The original ProMini does cover the tower just not as thick as the M7. I couldn't really say how much protection any of them would offer.

Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC Looks like ProMini rebadged the silver M7 Thats what i thought. With the new promini - they clearly say its supposed to protect against mushrooming with this 'new' brace. But doesnt say anything for their original one. Are they on M2? perhaps they could shed some light on this? M7';s brace apparently protects against mushrooming from reading their comments. Havent read anything about JCW and this issue, and didnt bother looking for whiteline.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:51 PM Posts: 8,651 Online	ProMini is a MINI2 sponsor but I don't think they frequent the site. According to their website, the original strut brace is made to be fitted with their air intake. If their billet strut brace is indeed a rebadged M7, their price of $152.95 is bargain when compared to the $199 list price. You can contact ProMini at sales@promini.com.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	Ive got an alta cai , so any brace will require me modding something or another. 152 for that brace is a whopping bargain - Dont think M7 would be too happy tho LOL but who cares, thats the price of competition. Im going to email them and see what they say about this issue (old vs new & mushrooming). Cheers.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 03:51 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC ProMini is a MINI2 sponsor but I don't think they frequent the site. According to their website, the original strut brace is made to be fitted with their air intake. If their billet strut brace is indeed a rebadged M7, their price of $152.95 is bargain when compared to the $199 list price. You can contact ProMini at sales@promini.com. It's a shame they don't post anymore. Seems since they sold Blue Thunder they don't visit. Casey used to post and his homepage is still promini.com. That is a good price. Now if they'd clone the USS and make it cheaper I'd go for it.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,466 Offline	I wouldn't panic about mushrooming, got a funny feeling it's slightly credible but at the same time (more likely) it's a sales pitch.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 03:51 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy I wouldn't panic about mushrooming, got a funny feeling it's slightly credible but at the same time (more likely) it's a sales pitch. To be fair there was some discussion of mushrooming quite a while before anybody started selling products based around it.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
CoolJamJar DON'T PANIC! My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oran Park, Sydney Local Time: 06:51 AM Posts: 903 Offline	OK, time to out myself as the n00b I am - what is mushrooming (apart from searching fields for the magic type ;-) )....

Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	im not the best person when it comes to explaining these things but here it goes: mushrooming - when u hit a bad pothole, the front struts go up and dent the housing where the strut braces fit on (pushes it out). Result is that u dont have a flat surface anymore (looks like a mushroom). I think its more of an issue for those with 18's rims than 17's rims, but hey if u hit a pothole bad enough it doesnt matter i think?

Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 03:51 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k im not the best person when it comes to explaining these things but here it goes: mushrooming - when u hit a bad pothole, the front struts go up and dent the housing where the strut braces fit on (pushes it out). Result is that u dont have a flat surface anymore (looks like a mushroom). I think its more of an issue for those with 18's rims than 17's rims, but hey if u hit a pothole bad enough it doesnt matter i think? Yep. Lowered cars have the issue as well. Stiffer springs and less travell causing higher loads. These loads bulge the mounting surface.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,466 Offline	Just get the M7 Pete, they claimed to solve this issue with their plate looking thing while the JCW doesn't have that plate struture to prevent mushrooming. I reckon the ultimate fix would be some of those huuuuge camber plates, like the RDR..

Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	Hmz if i do get one, id probably go for pro mini, its frking cheaper and just as ugly haha. My wallet is really getting thin.

Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
n00b Twincharge??? My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,466 Offline	mine's thinner than yours man...and you know why too

Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
MiniFr34k fr34king n00b! My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Local Time: 05:51 AM Posts: 2,200 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by dairyboy mine's thinner than yours man...and you know why too biarch

Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 12:51 PM Posts: 8,651 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by MiniFr34k My wallet is really getting thin. You could just get the M7 strut tower reinforcement plates ... cheaper and you don't have to hack up the heat shield on your Alta intake

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