[batou]

I noticed a very big improvement in overall handling and reduced torque steer both on smooth roads and poor surface roads. That said if it hits a crack or deep rut in the road it will pull, but definetly not as bad as before!

[Richard Crofts]

Quote: Originally Posted by wibbly (original)

A bit worrying considering I've got 42k or so on mine

Good of the chaps at Lohen tho to honour the 3 hours quoted

Dave and Ade at Thinkmini did mine with the car on 65k miles....the things feel out of the car in pieces thats how shot mine were. I think at the time adrian said they were the worst he's seen (I think being as though they were not even whole anymore!)... he has done a lot since then and may have found some even worse but i'll bet mine are still in contention! lol ... i'd look into getting someone to check yours and replace if theres movement

[wibbly]

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original)

Dave and Ade at Thinkmini did mine with the car on 65k miles....the things fell out of the car in pieces thats how shot mine were.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Maybe I'll get them looked at sometime, together with some other bits I want looking at.

MOT time soon (again)

[PmP]

Which superflex bushes to go for? The stock camber ones or adjustable ones? help???

[Damo]

The adjustable bushes don't adjust camber only adjust caster (which gives more camber the more you turn the wheel). When I got the POS Alta PSRS those added Caster and I didn't really notice much difference to be honest (Anti Lift was good).

I spoke to 1320 when getting the Superflex I have now and asked about the offset ones that allow for adding Caster, and he advised he had not personal experience of them, but the added caster should in theory aid with high speed stability (i.e. improve the centreing of the steering I think).

Personally I kept the standard caster ones with the theory of there is less to go wrong. I'll add Camber with my BC coilovers which are ordered

[MINI-Morgan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

The adjustable bushes don't adjust camber only adjust caster (which gives more camber the more you turn the wheel). When I got the POS Alta PSRS those added Caster and I didn't really notice much difference to be honest (Anti Lift was good).

I spoke to 1320 when getting the Superflex I have now and asked about the offset ones that allow for adding Caster, and he advised he had not personal experience of them, but the added caster should in theory aid with high speed stability (i.e. improve the centreing of the steering I think).

Personally I kept the standard caster ones with the theory of there is less to go wrong. I'll add Camber with my BC coilovers which are ordered

but how did the superflex compare?

[Damo]

To be honest my alignment is shot (despite being done when they were fitted just done wrong IMO) so its not a fair comparison really. But to be honest not much difference between the 2 but the Superflex are quieter Well thats not true, the Superflex don't make any noise the Alta PSRS rattles like ****.

[PmP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

The adjustable bushes don't adjust camber only adjust caster (which gives more camber the more you turn the wheel). When I got the POS Alta PSRS those added Caster and I didn't really notice much difference to be honest (Anti Lift was good).

I spoke to 1320 when getting the Superflex I have now and asked about the offset ones that allow for adding Caster, and he advised he had not personal experience of them, but the added caster should in theory aid with high speed stability (i.e. improve the centreing of the steering I think).

Personally I kept the standard caster ones with the theory of there is less to go wrong. I'll add Camber with my BC coilovers which are ordered

Ta, was just wondering cause someone had mentioned that the stock bushes wear out as the are meant for a caster/camber angle when car is not lowered.

Sorry, should've checked details before posting.

To be precise caster alters how agressive the car will turn, the amount of turn in off power into a corner and on power steering out of a corner. More caster will make the car steer less into a corner off power and hence make it more stable. It will also increase on power steering out of the corner. It improves the centreing of the steering simply as a by product, not really the key aim of changing caster.

Knew my RC car setup knowledge would come in handy one day!

[Damo]

Ahhh learnt summat today

[Lucky Dave]

Increased castor will also reduce the self centering when on the move, not ideal for a normal road car.

[PmP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)

Increased castor will also reduce the self centering when on the move, not ideal for a normal road car.

Are you sure?

Increased castor angle will increase self centreing effect while driving in a straight line, unless the mini is running the uprights angled forwards rather than backwards in stock setup which would be rather odd?

[MINI-Morgan]

Man those were the days...... 1/10th RC Touring car racing Where the setup really did matter so much more than on the MINI especially on the road. Wonder if anyone has ever created a way to check test if the MINIs spring tenstion and make it equal both sides. Hmmmm

I would have said the self centering would be effected more by the toe in/out if you are running large casters with it offsetting the camber with the wheels not dead straight.

[Lucky Dave]

Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original)

Are you sure?

Increased castor angle will increase self centreing effect while driving in a straight line, unless the mini is running the uprights angled forwards rather than backwards in stock setup which would be rather odd?

Sorry yes the offset bush can be installed either way!! I was looking at it moving the lower point backwards and the rear mount inwards.

On the mini there is very little bump steer, too much castor adjustment will change this looking at the steering arms.

For a road car I think BMW/Rover got it about right.


Im shocked how many RC drivers there are! I used to race twice a week! Then moved onto the 1/5th scale two stroke FG cars with fluid driven cross drilled brake discs!!!

[GTT 280]

R/C was my life for about 4 years - 12 > 16. Electric and Petrol - mainly Schumacher Cat and Cougars, and Nitro. Wow, Futaba, Acoms, all those names LOLOL. what memories!!!

Ace.

Cheers,
K.

[Lucky Dave]

I had a short Schumacher cat which replaced my AYK Viper!!!

Then I went 2wd

[PmP]

Raced for 14 years this xmas. Started in 1/10th offroad 2wd and 4wd using associated and the iconic ttech Predator, then moved into touring cars with the Predator and then onto Team Xray.

Racing indoors this winter again on carpet, with slick tyres, brushless motors and 4200 mah sub C batteries. were 1400 mah from same battery size when I started.

And have gone to race meetings in my mini, complete with gazebo, haulerbag, folding chair, pit table and mini generator in the back.