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DSCS · Dec 10th, 2007, 11:03 AM

I need some advise on how to level the adjustable Bilstein PSS on my car. Do I need to level the car from the ground or do I need to level each absorber left and right to the exact height? When I look at my absorbers they seem to be adjusted to all different heights already. Maybe that is why my car seems to have a bumpy ride

racer53 · Jan 2nd, 2008, 02:23 AM

I have the PSS9s for three years now on my 05 Cooper S. I tried several times to set them up right and they never handled as well as I wanted on the track. I paid a shop in West Chester PA to corner weight the car and that was the best money I had ever spent. If you want to race your Mini and you bought the PSS9s already I would invest another $500 into getting them corner weighted. Right now my car is slightly unleveled but you can only notice with a ruler and it was done on purpose to get better weight distribution for the track.

GTT 280 · Jan 2nd, 2008, 04:11 AM

My car was corner weight tested and found to be perfect (with me in the car). This was without any weight adjustment.

The suspension should be set up so that each unit is identical to the opposing side. The front and back don't have to be equal obviously... only side to side.

If your handling is no good, i strongly suspect the Bilsteins NOT to be the cause, i'd look more at the chassis, bushes/mounts, and tyres

Bilsteins are THE best product in their class.

Cheers,
K.

robbo mcs · Jan 3rd, 2008, 07:11 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original)

My car was corner weight tested and found to be perfect (with me in the car). This was without any weight adjustment.

The suspension should be set up so that each unit is identical to the opposing side. The front and back don't have to be equal obviously... only side to side.

If your handling is no good, i strongly suspect the Bilsteins NOT to be the cause, i'd look more at the chassis, bushes/mounts, and tyres

Bilsteins are THE best product in their class.

Cheers,
K.

Hi,

You are wrong. A properly corner weighted car is set up so the diagonals are equal, ie front left + right rear combined should weigh the same as front right + left rear

Cheers

Robbo

Loui · Jan 3rd, 2008, 07:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs (original)

Hi,

You are wrong. A properly corner weighted car is set up so the diagonals are equal, ie front left + right rear combined should weigh the same as front right + left rear

Cheers

Robbo

Thats interesting to know Robbo, i really need to get mine set up properly

2 much · Jan 3rd, 2008, 09:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original)

Thats interesting to know Robbo, i really need to get mine set up properly

you can only do that by going on a circuit and fully adjustable suspension with camber adjustment.so much more to it than meets the eye unfortuantely

GTT 280 · Jan 3rd, 2008, 11:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs (original)

Hi,

You are wrong. A properly corner weighted car is set up so the diagonals are equal, ie front left + right rear combined should weigh the same as front right + left rear

Cheers

Robbo

....but i was not referring to the weight, i was referring to the suspension height

Cheers,
K.

DSCS · Jan 7th, 2008, 02:43 PM

My car is fitted with H&R sway bar, Bilstein PSS, continental tyres and the bushes and suspension are in good condition but I keep wondering why the back end tramps to one side when I go over a small bump in the road. Can anyone help?

Loui · Jan 7th, 2008, 08:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 2 much (original)

you can only do that by going on a circuit and fully adjustable suspension with camber adjustment.so much more to it than meets the eye unfortuantely

Oh considering i set it up myself it works pretty well just im sure i could get more out of it tbh

GTT 280 · Jan 8th, 2008, 03:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DSCS (original)

My car is fitted with H&R sway bar, Bilstein PSS, continental tyres and the bushes and suspension are in good condition but I keep wondering why the back end tramps to one side when I go over a small bump in the road. Can anyone help?

..perhaps it could be the toe in on your rear wheels (although that is not really adjustable), or it could be tyre pressure (assume not), or it could be a faulty suspension unit (assume not).

Have all 4 wheels been aligned in relation to each other? sometimes you get cars where the rear seems to sit either left or right of the front

Cheers,
K.

Dec 10th, 2007, 11:03 AM	#1
DSCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 12:54 PM Posts: 15 Offline	How to level the PSS? I need some advise on how to level the adjustable Bilstein PSS on my car. Do I need to level the car from the ground or do I need to level each absorber left and right to the exact height? When I look at my absorbers they seem to be adjusted to all different heights already. Maybe that is why my car seems to have a bumpy ride Attached Thumbnails

Jan 2nd, 2008, 02:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
racer53 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 11:54 PM Posts: 2 Offline	PSS9s I have the PSS9s for three years now on my 05 Cooper S. I tried several times to set them up right and they never handled as well as I wanted on the track. I paid a shop in West Chester PA to corner weight the car and that was the best money I had ever spent. If you want to race your Mini and you bought the PSS9s already I would invest another $500 into getting them corner weighted. Right now my car is slightly unleveled but you can only notice with a ruler and it was done on purpose to get better weight distribution for the track.

Jan 2nd, 2008, 04:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 2,503 Offline	My car was corner weight tested and found to be perfect (with me in the car). This was without any weight adjustment. The suspension should be set up so that each unit is identical to the opposing side. The front and back don't have to be equal obviously... only side to side. If your handling is no good, i strongly suspect the Bilsteins NOT to be the cause, i'd look more at the chassis, bushes/mounts, and tyres Bilsteins are THE best product in their class. Cheers, K. Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Jan 3rd, 2008, 07:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
robbo mcs Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Local Time: 03:54 PM Posts: 2,669 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GTT 270 (original) My car was corner weight tested and found to be perfect (with me in the car). This was without any weight adjustment. The suspension should be set up so that each unit is identical to the opposing side. The front and back don't have to be equal obviously... only side to side. If your handling is no good, i strongly suspect the Bilsteins NOT to be the cause, i'd look more at the chassis, bushes/mounts, and tyres Bilsteins are THE best product in their class. Cheers, K. Hi, You are wrong. A properly corner weighted car is set up so the diagonals are equal, ie front left + right rear combined should weigh the same as front right + left rear Cheers Robbo Mods: GO MADDIE and SPARKY!

Jan 3rd, 2008, 07:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 3,155 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs (original) Hi, You are wrong. A properly corner weighted car is set up so the diagonals are equal, ie front left + right rear combined should weigh the same as front right + left rear Cheers Robbo Thats interesting to know Robbo, i really need to get mine set up properly WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

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Jan 3rd, 2008, 09:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
2 much MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 236 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Loui (original) Thats interesting to know Robbo, i really need to get mine set up properly you can only do that by going on a circuit and fully adjustable suspension with camber adjustment.so much more to it than meets the eye unfortuantely

Jan 3rd, 2008, 11:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 2,503 Offline	Correct.... Quote: Originally Posted by robbo mcs (original) Hi, You are wrong. A properly corner weighted car is set up so the diagonals are equal, ie front left + right rear combined should weigh the same as front right + left rear Cheers Robbo ....but i was not referring to the weight, i was referring to the suspension height Cheers, K. Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Jan 7th, 2008, 02:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
DSCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 12:54 PM Posts: 15 Offline	My car is fitted with H&R sway bar, Bilstein PSS, continental tyres and the bushes and suspension are in good condition but I keep wondering why the back end tramps to one side when I go over a small bump in the road. Can anyone help?

Jan 7th, 2008, 08:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Loui 230whp an counting My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mini Addiction Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 3,155 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by 2 much (original) you can only do that by going on a circuit and fully adjustable suspension with camber adjustment.so much more to it than meets the eye unfortuantely Oh considering i set it up myself it works pretty well just im sure i could get more out of it tbh WWW.MINIADDICTION.CO.UK

Jan 8th, 2008, 03:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 2,503 Offline	Hmmmm... Quote: Originally Posted by DSCS (original) My car is fitted with H&R sway bar, Bilstein PSS, continental tyres and the bushes and suspension are in good condition but I keep wondering why the back end tramps to one side when I go over a small bump in the road. Can anyone help? ..perhaps it could be the toe in on your rear wheels (although that is not really adjustable), or it could be tyre pressure (assume not), or it could be a faulty suspension unit (assume not). Have all 4 wheels been aligned in relation to each other? sometimes you get cars where the rear seems to sit either left or right of the front Cheers, K. Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

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