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Blakeyjp · Apr 21st, 2008, 10:35 AM

Morning folks,

I collected my 2005 's' on thursday and am now looking to lower it as i find it sits slightly too high.

Is my best bet to get a new set of springs or will i need to get new shocks to ??

I don't want to spend massive ammounts of cash. Am i right in thinking that coilovers aren't necessary for everyday driving and generally are of benefit when doing track days etc ?

I'm not bothered about having it slammed to the floor just a nice drop so the wheels sit nicely in the arches, i've got R91 5-spoke bullet alloys by the way.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Blakey

humph · Apr 21st, 2008, 10:39 AM

Most people go for a set of springs and keep the stock dampers. Most common spring is probably the Eibach Pro Street, sold by most MINI tuning specialists, check out the sponsors directory. Lowering with springs only will get you about a 30mm drop.

Blakeyjp · Apr 21st, 2008, 10:55 AM

Do you mean the Eibach Pro Spring kit ? The Pro street ones are coilovers.

Thinking of ordering the springs from GTT Tuning.

humph · Apr 21st, 2008, 10:57 AM

Sorry yes that will be them. Getting myself mixed up after discussing lowering my mates Leon with him.

Blakeyjp · Apr 21st, 2008, 11:06 AM

Ok, thanks for the help.

Am i gonna get any rubbing issues with it being lowered 25-30mm ?

humph · Apr 21st, 2008, 11:11 AM

If you're sticking with the bullets then rubbing shouldn't be an issue at all genrally. Unless of course you drive around with a car full of kids and lugguage, then you may get some problems. Not something I've ever doen so difficult to comment.

Blakeyjp · Apr 21st, 2008, 01:19 PM

Yeh gonna stick with the bullets for now at least.
Cheers for the help.

feenaldo · Apr 21st, 2008, 01:58 PM

Just remember that Eibach springs sink a little further as time goes on. I remember TonyT3 saying about this at Poole Quay like 2 years ago, that his went really low after a while.

Darthbladerni · Apr 21st, 2008, 04:31 PM

I got the eibach springs for upto 40mm drop apparantly and mine dropped about 43mm on 18x7.5 wheels. No rubbing with just me in the car and no rubbing with the car full of people lol it just sits very very low.

Depends on the offset of the wheels, i think mine are et42/43.

I have no regrets and the car is not slammed by any means. Check out my gallery for some pictures if you want.

Hope this helped a bit.

m0edwa · Apr 21st, 2008, 05:43 PM

on the advice on a previous forum, I went for the eibach pro springs £144 and had ATS fit them, £100 cash job. Happy with results and am running standard 17s, see gallery for pics.

captint · Apr 21st, 2008, 07:20 PM

I had Eibach pro's fitted, not problem, have 17" Pro race 1.2s on with 16m spacers on the front to accomodate my BBK and it doesn't rub, but it does tram line on the motorway

Darthbladerni · Apr 21st, 2008, 07:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by captint (original)

I had Eibach pro's fitted, not problem, have 17" Pro race 1.2s on with 16m spacers on the front to accomodate my BBK and it doesn't rub, but it does tram line on the motorway

What does it actually feel like??

Sort of like how it sounds I guess, car on "tramlines"?? lol

I feel it on uneven roads now and again but normally I dont

Blakeyjp · Apr 21st, 2008, 07:31 PM

Looks like my best bet is gonna be to go for the Eibachs then.

Just gotta find a good place to get them fitted now.

Cheers for the help everyone

Darthbladerni · Apr 21st, 2008, 08:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Blakeyjp (original)

Looks like my best bet is gonna be to go for the Eibachs then.

Just gotta find a good place to get them fitted now.

Cheers for the help everyone

Good stuff! When you get them post some pictures up and obviously let us know what you think of them.

Blakeyjp · Apr 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM

Hhhhmmmmm this is dangerous.....................Lohen website and payday coming soon !!!!!!!!

Darthbladerni · Apr 21st, 2008, 08:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Blakeyjp (original)

Hhhhmmmmm this is dangerous.....................Lohen website and payday coming soon !!!!!!!!

lol!! slippery slope this modding business.

captint · Apr 21st, 2008, 09:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original)

What does it actually feel like??

Sort of like how it sounds I guess, car on "tramlines"?? lol

I feel it on uneven roads now and again but normally I dont

Well coz it squats low and wide (it looks really fat), you just have to avoid the slow lane, as otherwise you can't get out it.

It is a harder ride and you do feel the bumps, so much so that i am changing my head unit to the new Alpine IDA 200 to avoid skipping (IPOD Only no CD)

But it looks awesome and handles wickedly. Plus with Toyo Proxie 4's it sticks to the road like toffee

Darthbladerni · Apr 21st, 2008, 10:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by captint (original)

Well coz it squats low and wide (it looks really fat), you just have to avoid the slow lane, as otherwise you can't get out it.

It is a harder ride and you do feel the bumps, so much so that i am changing my head unit to the new Alpine IDA 200 to avoid skipping (IPOD Only no CD)

But it looks awesome and handles wickedly. Plus with Toyo Proxie 4's it sticks to the road like toffee

yeah with mine on 18's and lowered about 43mm it is fairly rough but i think it is better, it is amazing how nippy the car feels now since I lowered it. Love it!

captint · Apr 22nd, 2008, 12:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original)

yeah with mine on 18's and lowered about 43mm it is fairly rough but i think it is better, it is amazing how nippy the car feels now since I lowered it. Love it!

That must be a bone braker on 18's, but it must look the biz

humph · Apr 22nd, 2008, 07:46 AM

Captint, You really shouldn't be getting the problems you describe in my opinion. Ride in my car with Eibachs, 18's and non runflats is easily comparable to when I ran 17s and run flats. It's definately no worse. And this set up has never tramlined once, even under braking.

Apr 21st, 2008, 10:35 AM	#1
Blakeyjp MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jersey, Channel Isla Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Lowering advice........please. Morning folks, I collected my 2005 's' on thursday and am now looking to lower it as i find it sits slightly too high. Is my best bet to get a new set of springs or will i need to get new shocks to ?? I don't want to spend massive ammounts of cash. Am i right in thinking that coilovers aren't necessary for everyday driving and generally are of benefit when doing track days etc ? I'm not bothered about having it slammed to the floor just a nice drop so the wheels sit nicely in the arches, i've got R91 5-spoke bullet alloys by the way. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Blakey

Apr 21st, 2008, 05:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
m0edwa MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: retford, notts, uk Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 26 Offline	I went for eibach pro on the advice on a previous forum, I went for the eibach pro springs £144 and had ATS fit them, £100 cash job. Happy with results and am running standard 17s, see gallery for pics. First Mini for 15 yrs and lovin it

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Apr 21st, 2008, 10:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 2,413 Offline	Most people go for a set of springs and keep the stock dampers. Most common spring is probably the Eibach Pro Street, sold by most MINI tuning specialists, check out the sponsors directory. Lowering with springs only will get you about a 30mm drop.

Apr 21st, 2008, 10:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Blakeyjp MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jersey, Channel Isla Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Do you mean the Eibach Pro Spring kit ? The Pro street ones are coilovers. Thinking of ordering the springs from GTT Tuning.

Apr 21st, 2008, 10:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 2,413 Offline	Sorry yes that will be them. Getting myself mixed up after discussing lowering my mates Leon with him.

Apr 21st, 2008, 11:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
Blakeyjp MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jersey, Channel Isla Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Ok, thanks for the help. Am i gonna get any rubbing issues with it being lowered 25-30mm ?

Apr 21st, 2008, 11:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 2,413 Offline	If you're sticking with the bullets then rubbing shouldn't be an issue at all genrally. Unless of course you drive around with a car full of kids and lugguage, then you may get some problems. Not something I've ever doen so difficult to comment.

Apr 21st, 2008, 01:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Blakeyjp MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jersey, Channel Isla Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Yeh gonna stick with the bullets for now at least. Cheers for the help.

Apr 21st, 2008, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
feenaldo FOM Test Pilot My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast! Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 153 Offline	Just remember that Eibach springs sink a little further as time goes on. I remember TonyT3 saying about this at Poole Quay like 2 years ago, that his went really low after a while.

Apr 21st, 2008, 04:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 1,818 Offline	I got the eibach springs for upto 40mm drop apparantly and mine dropped about 43mm on 18x7.5 wheels. No rubbing with just me in the car and no rubbing with the car full of people lol it just sits very very low. Depends on the offset of the wheels, i think mine are et42/43. I have no regrets and the car is not slammed by any means. Check out my gallery for some pictures if you want. Hope this helped a bit.

Apr 21st, 2008, 07:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
captint MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 165 Offline	I had Eibach pro's fitted, not problem, have 17" Pro race 1.2s on with 16m spacers on the front to accomodate my BBK and it doesn't rub, but it does tram line on the motorway

Apr 21st, 2008, 07:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 1,818 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by captint (original) I had Eibach pro's fitted, not problem, have 17" Pro race 1.2s on with 16m spacers on the front to accomodate my BBK and it doesn't rub, but it does tram line on the motorway What does it actually feel like?? Sort of like how it sounds I guess, car on "tramlines"?? lol I feel it on uneven roads now and again but normally I dont

Apr 21st, 2008, 07:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Blakeyjp MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jersey, Channel Isla Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Looks like my best bet is gonna be to go for the Eibachs then. Just gotta find a good place to get them fitted now. Cheers for the help everyone

Apr 21st, 2008, 08:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 1,818 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Blakeyjp (original) Looks like my best bet is gonna be to go for the Eibachs then. Just gotta find a good place to get them fitted now. Cheers for the help everyone Good stuff! When you get them post some pictures up and obviously let us know what you think of them.

Apr 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Blakeyjp MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jersey, Channel Isla Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Hhhhmmmmm this is dangerous.....................Lohen website and payday coming soon !!!!!!!!

Apr 21st, 2008, 08:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 1,818 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Blakeyjp (original) Hhhhmmmmm this is dangerous.....................Lohen website and payday coming soon !!!!!!!! lol!! slippery slope this modding business.

Apr 21st, 2008, 09:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
captint MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 165 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original) What does it actually feel like?? Sort of like how it sounds I guess, car on "tramlines"?? lol I feel it on uneven roads now and again but normally I dont Well coz it squats low and wide (it looks really fat), you just have to avoid the slow lane, as otherwise you can't get out it. It is a harder ride and you do feel the bumps, so much so that i am changing my head unit to the new Alpine IDA 200 to avoid skipping (IPOD Only no CD) But it looks awesome and handles wickedly. Plus with Toyo Proxie 4's it sticks to the road like toffee

Apr 21st, 2008, 10:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
Darthbladerni Mini Youngster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 1,818 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by captint (original) Well coz it squats low and wide (it looks really fat), you just have to avoid the slow lane, as otherwise you can't get out it. It is a harder ride and you do feel the bumps, so much so that i am changing my head unit to the new Alpine IDA 200 to avoid skipping (IPOD Only no CD) But it looks awesome and handles wickedly. Plus with Toyo Proxie 4's it sticks to the road like toffee yeah with mine on 18's and lowered about 43mm it is fairly rough but i think it is better, it is amazing how nippy the car feels now since I lowered it. Love it!

Apr 22nd, 2008, 12:08 AM	#19 (permalink)
captint MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 165 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Darthbladerni (original) yeah with mine on 18's and lowered about 43mm it is fairly rough but i think it is better, it is amazing how nippy the car feels now since I lowered it. Love it! That must be a bone braker on 18's, but it must look the biz

Apr 22nd, 2008, 07:46 AM	#20 (permalink)
humph Back To My Old Self Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 03:54 AM Posts: 2,413 Offline	Captint, You really shouldn't be getting the problems you describe in my opinion. Ride in my car with Eibachs, 18's and non runflats is easily comparable to when I ran 17s and run flats. It's definately no worse. And this set up has never tramlined once, even under braking.

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