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squid · Apr 11th, 2002, 12:40 AM

miniusa says on a Cooper for $500 you can get
'sport plus suspension with stiffer sway bars'.

Does that mean the only difference between sport
and sport plus is the sway bars ?

squid@panix.com
2002 Cooper

Martin L · Apr 11th, 2002, 03:32 AM

Now that is a bit steep at $500, it's only £100 here in the UK, so that's about $150!
It's all a matter of taste I think, you really need to test drive both before making a commitment. Both cars are very good but most people here end up with SS+ as it comes with the "chilli" pack, which is good value for money.

districtofc · Apr 11th, 2002, 12:29 PM

i think it also has stiffer dampers and higher spring rates.

Martin L · Apr 11th, 2002, 12:38 PM

Oh yeah, in the true American to Engish translation to avoid any confusion, sway bars = anti-roll bars

S2000&CooperS · Apr 11th, 2002, 01:55 PM

In driving the Cooper and Cooper S back to back, I didn't notice much, if any, difference in the handling. Both cars handled extremely well with the Cooper S having a slightly more stiff ride.

districtofc · Apr 11th, 2002, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin L
Oh yeah, in the true American to Engish translation to avoid any confusion, sway bars = anti-roll bars

its interchangeable here in the states...i often find myself saying anti-sway bars.

Garfield · Apr 11th, 2002, 11:02 PM

Officially, the difference between the SSP and SSP+ is stiffer bars AND springs, but NOT shocks/dampers.

squid · Apr 12th, 2002, 12:47 AM

SS = sport suspension
SSP = sport suspension plus
re
Officially, the difference between the SS and SSP+
is stiffer bars AND springs, but NOT shocks/dampers.

Hopefully there will be a bunch of Cooper S buyers who
go to tuners for new suspensions, and I can pick up
their fresh barely used SSP parts.

And hopefully there's no obscure and expensive spring
perch adjusters, bushings, or other fitting hardware
preventing swapping in an SSP for and SS.

When I get a parts CD I will check that the parts for
S's SSP are the same as the Cooper's SSP.

I'd like to change the shocks to something adjustable,
anyways, it's good news that the SSP is just bars and
springs.

squid@panix.com

districtofc · Apr 12th, 2002, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garfield
Officially, the difference between the SSP and SSP+ is stiffer bars AND springs, but NOT shocks/dampers.

poor mini, dont they realize you should up the dampening rate with the spring rate...heres to porpoising at 50k miles.

do you know what the spring rates are by chance? and if theyre progressive or linear springs...im assuming linear?

Garfield · Apr 12th, 2002, 09:13 AM

When I say "officially", that's just the way I've read it several places. It's never said it in any manner that lead me to believe they were changing the shocks.

Apr 11th, 2002, 12:40 AM	#1
squid MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Local Time: 03:06 PM Posts: 330 Offline	sport-plus suspension, what exactly miniusa says on a Cooper for $500 you can get 'sport plus suspension with stiffer sway bars'. Does that mean the only difference between sport and sport plus is the sway bars ? squid@panix.com 2002 Cooper

Apr 11th, 2002, 03:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:06 PM Posts: 13,597 Offline	Now that is a bit steep at $500, it's only £100 here in the UK, so that's about $150! It's all a matter of taste I think, you really need to test drive both before making a commitment. Both cars are very good but most people here end up with SS+ as it comes with the "chilli" pack, which is good value for money. MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

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districtofc MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC Local Time: 02:06 PM Posts: 379 Offline	i think it also has stiffer dampers and higher spring rates. "The best change to your car you can make is adjusting the nut behind the wheel"

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Martin L MINI defector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Harefield Local Time: 08:06 PM Posts: 13,597 Offline	Oh yeah, in the true American to Engish translation to avoid any confusion, sway bars = anti-roll bars MINI, RX8 and MX5 - Done those............. It's now TTime Unofficial MINI2.com bean counter

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Apr 11th, 2002, 02:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
districtofc MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC Local Time: 02:06 PM Posts: 379 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Martin L Oh yeah, in the true American to Engish translation to avoid any confusion, sway bars = anti-roll bars its interchangeable here in the states...i often find myself saying anti-sway bars. "The best change to your car you can make is adjusting the nut behind the wheel"

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Garfield MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mt. Airy, MD USA Local Time: 02:06 PM Posts: 791 Offline	Officially, the difference between the SSP and SSP+ is stiffer bars AND springs, but NOT shocks/dampers. - 2005 G Stock '05 MINI or it's back to a Miata in C Stock - 2004 G Stock 2nd place Pro Solo, 9th Place Solo II - 2003 STX 5th place Pro Solo, 6th Place Solo II - 2002 H Stock Pro Solo National Champion

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squid MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Local Time: 03:06 PM Posts: 330 Offline	SS = sport suspension SSP = sport suspension plus re Officially, the difference between the SS and SSP+ is stiffer bars AND springs, but NOT shocks/dampers. Hopefully there will be a bunch of Cooper S buyers who go to tuners for new suspensions, and I can pick up their fresh barely used SSP parts. And hopefully there's no obscure and expensive spring perch adjusters, bushings, or other fitting hardware preventing swapping in an SSP for and SS. When I get a parts CD I will check that the parts for S's SSP are the same as the Cooper's SSP. I'd like to change the shocks to something adjustable, anyways, it's good news that the SSP is just bars and springs. squid@panix.com Last edited by squid : Apr 12th, 2002 at 12:53 AM.

Apr 12th, 2002, 07:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
districtofc MINI2 Senior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC Local Time: 02:06 PM Posts: 379 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Garfield Officially, the difference between the SSP and SSP+ is stiffer bars AND springs, but NOT shocks/dampers. poor mini, dont they realize you should up the dampening rate with the spring rate...heres to porpoising at 50k miles. do you know what the spring rates are by chance? and if theyre progressive or linear springs...im assuming linear? "The best change to your car you can make is adjusting the nut behind the wheel"

Apr 12th, 2002, 09:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Garfield MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mt. Airy, MD USA Local Time: 02:06 PM Posts: 791 Offline	When I say "officially", that's just the way I've read it several places. It's never said it in any manner that lead me to believe they were changing the shocks. - 2005 G Stock '05 MINI or it's back to a Miata in C Stock - 2004 G Stock 2nd place Pro Solo, 9th Place Solo II - 2003 STX 5th place Pro Solo, 6th Place Solo II - 2002 H Stock Pro Solo National Champion

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