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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 05:25 PM   #1
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30mm lowering on s suspension?

Hi there,

Looking to lower my 54 cooper which is already on s springs i was thinking 35mm would be just nice!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

*or*

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

these say they lower by 30 / 35 mm but with me already haivng ss would i even be able to notice the difference what would i be best with? i take it these will fit a 54mini?

please help :|

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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 06:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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one word......eibachs
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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by RedUn
one word......eibachs

I second that motion, and yes you can tell in every way
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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 08:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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best place to get um????
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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 08:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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best place to get um????

check any of the sponsors on here but I think coolnew is near u

edit-just checked the coolnew web site it's no where near u

i'd be guessing that mini sport or deemon tweeks wud be best for u
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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 08:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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what effect is there when you go for lowering springs when you already have SS on your S? Does it lower it less than if you didn't have SS?
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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 08:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by nylo
what effect is there when you go for lowering springs when you already have SS on your S? Does it lower it less than if you didn't have SS?

i believe that eibachs lower SS and SSP cars 20mm and std cars 30mm
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Old Feb 24th, 2005, 08:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My MCS was specced with SS+ and swapped to Eibachs with tracking done after the lowering (essential IMO) cost me £80 cash and has transformed the car. Looks meaner, handles 100x better and ride is not too bad. Do get more little rattles but the car is small and running 17" alloys so I expected that
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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 10:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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eibachs shouldnt effect tracking i dont think


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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 10:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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My S on eibachs....

ride is a bit harsh on bumpy roads (18" tyres though) but superb on smooth roads and wickedly fast on track....


Cost, including springs, fitting, and check/adjust geometries as necessary £280, West Tunning.

Dont know if the geometry adjustment was necessary, but would rather have it checked by a proffessional tuner rather than just thrown on by an amatuer...
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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 01:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Im in nottingham, getting Eibachs soon. Where do i go? Dont mind a trek there and back.

If you can name a place which involves twistys on the route back that would be nice Hello Mr.Eibach!
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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 05:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Smoked
eibachs shouldnt effect tracking i dont think

Any lowering will effect it. Checking and any alterations afterwards is not essential but IMO is recommended. Would rather they had it an extra 30mins or so and it was perfect when i got it back
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Quote: Originally Posted by LordNikon
Any lowering will effect it. Checking and any alterations afterwards is not essential but IMO is recommended. Would rather they had it an extra 30mins or so and it was perfect when i got it back

i don't see how my self, I've lowered a good 10 minis easily with no tracking problems
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i don't see how my self, I've lowered a good 10 minis easily with no tracking problems

Good on you - do you want a medal ?? Any lowering of suspension components will alter geometry and angles, this can and I re-iterate the CAN alter the tracking and alignment, hence why getting it checked, IN MY OPINION, is worth while.

I am not saying you have to, but for the extra bit of time and no cost it is worth it IN MY OPINION.
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Quote: Originally Posted by LordNikon
Good on you - do you want a medal ?? Any lowering of suspension components will alter geometry and angles, this can and I re-iterate the CAN alter the tracking and alignment, hence why getting it checked, IN MY OPINION, is worth while.

I am not saying you have to, but for the extra bit of time and no cost it is worth it IN MY OPINION.

was just providing u with my experience on the matter and trying to save u some time and money sorry u feel so strong on the matter?!?!?!?!?

in all fariness get it checked if u really want to but there is no need at all
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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 09:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Mut - Lohen in Stone, Staffs do Eibachs I believe..... check them out

I've got eibachs on mine and give it a nice low ride and a good go-kart feel

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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 09:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Good on you - do you want a medal ?? Any lowering of suspension components will alter geometry and angles, this can and I re-iterate the CAN alter the tracking and alignment, hence why getting it checked, IN MY OPINION, is worth while.

I am not saying you have to, but for the extra bit of time and no cost it is worth it IN MY OPINION.

bit cheeky man!! i've also done around 10 minis withou tracking on any, its not necesary, if you wanted the geometry exactly as before you would need camber corrention plates at a cost of about 400 notes, but as the name suggests they only adjustc camber, i've done everything from 11k ones to 26k jcw S's, really think we wuda noticed if the tracking was out on any of them!!

edit: wot the hell mechanics do you know that will do unnecessary tracking setups for free?!?!?!


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Old Feb 25th, 2005, 09:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Lowering a car will actually make it toe out more (front) just very slightly.If it was bang on mid
limit before will ,it will probably still be in- limit. IMO it is 'good practice' to check and adjust if necessary (it may have been already out from a kerbing etc.) ,I suppose you could aliken this 'practice' to the one that also says change the v groove belt when you change the pulley.
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ok then, lets assume that the average person dont judge parking by bouncin ther car off the pavement, and they dont fit there springs using only a lump hammer, the tracking is not going to move!! if the springs are located properly, nothin else can move!! its all bolted into place!! you dont touch the steerin (unless u fancy fittin ur own lok limiter, summut i dont fancy so much!!) so i really dont see who its gonna shift beyond a couple of mill diff in the reassembly!!!


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