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mr.bill · Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:21 PM

For those of you on the left coast, the TV news had a reporter at the LA Auto Show with a red/white Cooper S. They showed a brief clip of the original Mini, plus the usual hype about the MINI having German and British design elements, Italian brakes, some American seating surfaces, "an international car." (Maybe they will try to spread the blame around for the niggles?) The reporter said it is "the hottest car at the show."

BruceK · Jan 4th, 2002, 01:03 AM

Mr. Bill,

Are you going to visit the MINI at the show? If so, any info or pictures you can provide of US-spec models would appreciated.

PigLick · Jan 4th, 2002, 03:20 AM

Yes, apparently the LA auto show is the US debut of the S. I plan on going to the show, probably on the 12th or 13th. I don't know if I'll be able to get any pics or not, but if I leanr anything interesting, I'll be sure to post it =)

Cape Cod MINI · Jan 4th, 2002, 07:24 AM

Someone on the RoadFly MINI forum posted comments about his visit to the LA show. He sat in the S. He may have an email link. Try www.roadfly.com

mr.bill · Jan 4th, 2002, 10:12 AM

Not sure if I will go. I've wanted a MINI for almost four years, when I saw it in a magazine and found out it would be coming here. But the devil is in the details and I am put off by the complex electrical system, pulling left and other problems. I'm not going to spend over twenty thousand dollars for something that is going to frustrate me no end with problems and require weekly trips to the dealer. If I see the car up close, my heart might overrule my head. Then it would be deciding if I want to sacrifice my sanity by buying one and entering into a love/hate relationship with it.

I have written of my concerns to BMW three times. I have yet to receive a proper response. This is poor customer relations. Things better change, and soon.

Paul · Jan 4th, 2002, 10:33 AM

http://autoshow2002.carpoint.msn.com...Home&pos=edit0

http://autoshow2002.carpoint.msn.com/schedule.aspx

http://autoshow2002.carpoint.msn.com/preview.aspx

Live reports on MSN Carpoint (authorised site) starts on Sunday (if I got my dates right).

Paul · Jan 4th, 2002, 10:34 AM

Oh, and we will be getting some reports and photo's of the Cooper and S to publish from the show too...

BruceK · Jan 4th, 2002, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI
Someone on the RoadFly MINI forum posted comments about his visit to the LA show. He sat in the S. He may have an email link. Try www.roadfly.com

That site seems about 6 to 8 months behind this one in general MINI information, doesn't it?

Rick · Jan 4th, 2002, 10:54 AM

why do people even use that site - its so sloppy

TimR · Jan 4th, 2002, 11:34 AM

Even better, the official US pricing will be announced either at this show or at the Detroit (or is it New York?) in two weeks. At least, that's the last I heard.

Or was that just a rumor

R1 · Jan 4th, 2002, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mr.bill
(Maybe they will try to spread the blame around for the niggles?

Sigh .... There's always a downer in your posts isn't there

Cape Cod MINI · Jan 4th, 2002, 01:34 PM

Yeah, the RoadFly forum is somewhat of a waste. Every time I post a link to something good they delete it. Today in my daily newspaper, The Cape Cod Times, is a photo of the Cooper S at the L.A. Auto Show. The hood/bonnet stripes look nasty! Don't know if I should be happy or distressed that the S is finally here. I may need therapy to get over my ambivalent feelings about buying a car I'm not sure will in good working order. Seems like some sort of self abuse!

Paul · Jan 4th, 2002, 04:31 PM

I'm not sure on lots of things on the 's', but I wait to see it in the flesh... and then to drive it!

Jazzy Jase · Jan 4th, 2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI
Today in my daily newspaper, The Cape Cod Times, is a photo of the Cooper S at the L.A. Auto Show. The hood/bonnet stripes look nasty

Can you post the picture??? Pleeeease

PigLick · Jan 4th, 2002, 07:24 PM

Heh, I think I'm in the same boat with Mr. Bill and Cape Cod. After reading all the problems here, I'm seriously rethinking whether I actually want to buy a MINI...except that I really want one. It is basically the only car on the market that has any appeal to me, literally. Even if I had an unlimited budget, MINI would be at the top of my list. Luckily, you need nowhere near an unlimited budget to get ahold of a MINI, but unfortunately it seems you may need unlimited patience =/ Guess I'll just have to wait and see how things go after release here in the US. I'm pretty low down the lists at all my local dealers, so even if I did want to buy one right away, I wouldn't have the opportunity. However now I think that's a good thing, because it means there will be plenty of people ahead of me to test out the product before I have to decide if I want to go ahead and buy one....

PigLick

Cape Cod MINI · Jan 4th, 2002, 07:46 PM

I can't post the pic. because it's in the newspaper and black and white. Would have to scan in on my scanner and it would look bad. I did try a word search for LA auto show, but no good pics. yet. Also tried the Cape Cod Times on line but they didn't have the photo posted.
Maybe this narrative from another forum will help conjure up some mental images at least. I will attempt to enter the url correctly.

S on Autobahn at 137 m.p.h.

Basil · Jan 4th, 2002, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI
I can't post the pic. because it's in the newspaper and black and white. Would have to scan in on my scanner and it would look bad. I did try a word search for LA auto show, but no good pics. yet. Also tried the Cape Cod Times on line but they didn't have the photo posted.
Maybe this narrative from another forum will help conjure up some mental images at least. I will attempt to enter the url correctly.

S on Autobahn at 137 m.p.h.

You did Good. Sounds like it could be an Alpina Mule !!........

SilvyinLA · Jan 6th, 2002, 05:52 AM

I went to the VIP preview of the LA Auto show. I have a deposit for the Mini, but have not been too into it since I have never seen one. Well after Friday night I am INTO THIS CAR!

It is so nice! The stripes on the hood of the S look good in person to me. If I want a sunroof I would prefer black top. A white one there with sunroof did not look as nice as the yellow with black top and sunroof. The sunroof blends in so well with a black top car. I have been wanting a crazy color for this car, but the silver with black top looks very crazy to me!(in a good way!)

I am just worried the NC dealer is going to tell me that living in CA will be a problem and only local customers will get the car at MSRP.

I have my name at 2 CA dealers but I bet they will charge over MSRP. The demand to sit in this car was enourmous and it was not even open to the public.

Pictures at http://silvyinla.homestead.com/laautoshow2002.html

rich · Jan 6th, 2002, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SilvyinLA
Pictures at http://silvyinla.homestead.com/laautoshow2002.html

...Some nice equipment on show

Was the Cooper S orange or red? - the camera sometimes lies & orange is not a current colour AFAIK

Jayomatic · Jan 6th, 2002, 07:53 PM

There are more pictures found here.

http://community.webshots.com/album/28558463NiPCHarLSq

J

Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:21 PM	#1
mr.bill MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 578 Offline	MINI at the LA Auto Show For those of you on the left coast, the TV news had a reporter at the LA Auto Show with a red/white Cooper S. They showed a brief clip of the original Mini, plus the usual hype about the MINI having German and British design elements, Italian brakes, some American seating surfaces, "an international car." (Maybe they will try to spread the blame around for the niggles?) The reporter said it is "the hottest car at the show."

Jan 4th, 2002, 01:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 06:24 PM Posts: 3,852 Offline	Mr. Bill, Are you going to visit the MINI at the show? If so, any info or pictures you can provide of US-spec models would appreciated. + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 4th, 2002, 10:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
BruceK Moderator & Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas Local Time: 06:24 PM Posts: 3,852 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI Someone on the RoadFly MINI forum posted comments about his visit to the LA show. He sat in the S. He may have an email link. Try www.roadfly.com That site seems about 6 to 8 months behind this one in general MINI information, doesn't it? + 2002 MINI Cooper S - Dark Silver / White roof, Sport, Premium, Lapis blue leather + 1965 Mini Traveller - Tartan Red / White roof, 1275, Cooper S discs, fully restored/renewed

Jan 4th, 2002, 11:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
TimR MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: us Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 62 Offline	Even better, the official US pricing will be announced either at this show or at the Detroit (or is it New York?) in two weeks. At least, that's the last I heard. Or was that just a rumor Ride to Live, Live to Ride

Jan 4th, 2002, 11:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 4,972 Offline	Re: MINI at the LA Auto Show Quote: Originally posted by mr.bill (Maybe they will try to spread the blame around for the niggles? Sigh .... There's always a downer in your posts isn't there

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Jan 4th, 2002, 03:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
PigLick MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 04:24 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Yes, apparently the LA auto show is the US debut of the S. I plan on going to the show, probably on the 12th or 13th. I don't know if I'll be able to get any pics or not, but if I leanr anything interesting, I'll be sure to post it =)

Jan 4th, 2002, 07:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 4,503 Offline	Someone on the RoadFly MINI forum posted comments about his visit to the LA show. He sat in the S. He may have an email link. Try www.roadfly.com

Jan 4th, 2002, 10:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
mr.bill MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: USA Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 578 Offline	Not sure if I will go. I've wanted a MINI for almost four years, when I saw it in a magazine and found out it would be coming here. But the devil is in the details and I am put off by the complex electrical system, pulling left and other problems. I'm not going to spend over twenty thousand dollars for something that is going to frustrate me no end with problems and require weekly trips to the dealer. If I see the car up close, my heart might overrule my head. Then it would be deciding if I want to sacrifice my sanity by buying one and entering into a love/hate relationship with it. I have written of my concerns to BMW three times. I have yet to receive a proper response. This is poor customer relations. Things better change, and soon.

Jan 4th, 2002, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 37,538 Offline	http://autoshow2002.carpoint.msn.com...Home&pos=edit0 http://autoshow2002.carpoint.msn.com/schedule.aspx http://autoshow2002.carpoint.msn.com/preview.aspx Live reports on MSN Carpoint (authorised site) starts on Sunday (if I got my dates right).

Jan 4th, 2002, 10:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 37,538 Offline	Oh, and we will be getting some reports and photo's of the Cooper and S to publish from the show too...

Jan 4th, 2002, 10:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rick can i go home yet Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: UK Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 2,593 Offline	why do people even use that site - its so sloppy

Jan 4th, 2002, 01:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 4,503 Offline	Yeah, the RoadFly forum is somewhat of a waste. Every time I post a link to something good they delete it. Today in my daily newspaper, The Cape Cod Times, is a photo of the Cooper S at the L.A. Auto Show. The hood/bonnet stripes look nasty! Don't know if I should be happy or distressed that the S is finally here. I may need therapy to get over my ambivalent feelings about buying a car I'm not sure will in good working order. Seems like some sort of self abuse!

Jan 4th, 2002, 04:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:24 AM Posts: 37,538 Offline	I'm not sure on lots of things on the 's', but I wait to see it in the flesh... and then to drive it!

Jan 4th, 2002, 06:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jazzy Jase Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 443 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI Today in my daily newspaper, The Cape Cod Times, is a photo of the Cooper S at the L.A. Auto Show. The hood/bonnet stripes look nasty Can you post the picture??? Pleeeease

Jan 4th, 2002, 07:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
PigLick MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 04:24 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Heh, I think I'm in the same boat with Mr. Bill and Cape Cod. After reading all the problems here, I'm seriously rethinking whether I actually want to buy a MINI...except that I really want one. It is basically the only car on the market that has any appeal to me, literally. Even if I had an unlimited budget, MINI would be at the top of my list. Luckily, you need nowhere near an unlimited budget to get ahold of a MINI, but unfortunately it seems you may need unlimited patience =/ Guess I'll just have to wait and see how things go after release here in the US. I'm pretty low down the lists at all my local dealers, so even if I did want to buy one right away, I wouldn't have the opportunity. However now I think that's a good thing, because it means there will be plenty of people ahead of me to test out the product before I have to decide if I want to go ahead and buy one.... PigLick

Jan 4th, 2002, 07:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
Cape Cod MINI Exposing the Beast Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cape Cod, MA Local Time: 08:24 PM Posts: 4,503 Offline	I can't post the pic. because it's in the newspaper and black and white. Would have to scan in on my scanner and it would look bad. I did try a word search for LA auto show, but no good pics. yet. Also tried the Cape Cod Times on line but they didn't have the photo posted. Maybe this narrative from another forum will help conjure up some mental images at least. I will attempt to enter the url correctly. S on Autobahn at 137 m.p.h.

Jan 4th, 2002, 09:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
Basil MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 6,259 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Cape Cod MINI I can't post the pic. because it's in the newspaper and black and white. Would have to scan in on my scanner and it would look bad. I did try a word search for LA auto show, but no good pics. yet. Also tried the Cape Cod Times on line but they didn't have the photo posted. Maybe this narrative from another forum will help conjure up some mental images at least. I will attempt to enter the url correctly. S on Autobahn at 137 m.p.h. You did Good. Sounds like it could be an Alpina Mule !!........

Jan 6th, 2002, 05:52 AM	#18 (permalink)
SilvyinLA MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: us Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 8 Offline	Here are my pictures! I went to the VIP preview of the LA Auto show. I have a deposit for the Mini, but have not been too into it since I have never seen one. Well after Friday night I am INTO THIS CAR! It is so nice! The stripes on the hood of the S look good in person to me. If I want a sunroof I would prefer black top. A white one there with sunroof did not look as nice as the yellow with black top and sunroof. The sunroof blends in so well with a black top car. I have been wanting a crazy color for this car, but the silver with black top looks very crazy to me!(in a good way!) I am just worried the NC dealer is going to tell me that living in CA will be a problem and only local customers will get the car at MSRP. I have my name at 2 CA dealers but I bet they will charge over MSRP. The demand to sit in this car was enourmous and it was not even open to the public. Pictures at http://silvyinla.homestead.com/laautoshow2002.html

Jan 6th, 2002, 06:57 AM	#19 (permalink)
rich MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Local Time: 10:24 AM Posts: 1,588 Offline	Re: Here are my pictures! Quote: Originally posted by SilvyinLA Pictures at http://silvyinla.homestead.com/laautoshow2002.html ...Some nice equipment on show Was the Cooper S orange or red? - the camera sometimes lies & orange is not a current colour AFAIK

Jan 6th, 2002, 07:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jayomatic MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Local Time: 07:24 PM Posts: 179 Offline	There are more pictures found here. http://community.webshots.com/album/28558463NiPCHarLSq J Holy Monkey! Indy Blue Cooper / White roof,wheels / Sport Package / Sunroof

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