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Vecchio Engineering · Mar 5th, 2008, 02:01 PM

We will be offering this high performance manifold for a ridiculously low price of £379 (Inc vat). However in order to keep at this low price we need a minimum of 10 people for this to work. If you are interested at all please let me know. This is by far one of the best manifolds out there for the Mini; it has four equal length primaries merging to a large bore section. I’ve attached a pic of the manifold. It is constructed from 304 stainless steel and unlike many other manifold manufactures has a removable cat should you ever have to replace it or substitute a de-cat pipe instead for a track day. The manifold will work for all petrol Gen 1 Mini’s.

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Lucky Dave · Mar 6th, 2008, 08:54 PM

Is that price correct chap?

You must be selling at a loss!

TBH Im tempted to buy all 10 and then sell them at a normal price!

Joking apart, does this major discounting not de-value the product?

Silent1 · Mar 7th, 2008, 05:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)

Is that price correct chap?

You must be selling at a loss!

TBH Im tempted to buy all 10 and then sell them at a normal price!

Joking apart, does this major discounting not de-value the product?

How does a discount de-value a product! It's not like he's saying, buy an exahust and we'll give you a janspeed manifold (because they're cack)

He's just selling them for a price he feels they're valued at, rather than the RRP

sef · Mar 7th, 2008, 08:46 AM

I'd be interested in this but I currently have a Borla Cat back which is quite loud. I'm a little concerned at the noise levels if I have one of these... Can't be scaring the neighbours can I... LOL

Lucky Dave · Mar 7th, 2008, 09:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Silent1 (original)

How does a discount de-value a product! It's not like he's saying, buy an exahust and we'll give you a janspeed manifold (because they're cack)

He's just selling them for a price he feels they're valued at, rather than the RRP

Try telling that tp the folks that have just bought one at the correct price.

I suppose it depends on the size of a business with regard to overheads etc, but we see it all the time with ebay sellers under cutting the proper suppliers. When there are no mini tuners left, im sure will ask why did they all close!

CJB_MCS · Mar 7th, 2008, 11:31 AM

What’s the correct price? An RRP is only suggested by the manufacturer, it is surely up to the retailer to decide what margins they want to make. If we stick to a "correct price" on goods then either the manufacturer is artificially keeping the cost high to maintain brand and typically protect their preferred retailers, or the retailers have got together to fix price......neither great for the customer.

I think the vast majority of Mini2 ers woulfd love to see more of these deals.

Leo - Thanks for the PM, if this goes ahead then please count me in.

Vecchio Engineering · Mar 7th, 2008, 12:42 PM

Thank you for all your interest. However we feel £379 (Inc vat) is a fair price for this manifold. Obviously the group buy offer has helped with the lower pricing.

alski · Mar 7th, 2008, 03:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original)

Is that price correct chap?

You must be selling at a loss!

TBH Im tempted to buy all 10 and then sell them at a normal price!

Joking apart, does this major discounting not de-value the product?

i see the angle your coming from, but i see it this way

1] the fact that a car can be built in the UK and shipped half way across the world and sold at 20% discount has not stopped you buying a mini....

2] compared to Ford, GM, Japanese and even VAG motors mini tuning on the whole does not appear that cheap

3]cheaper parts may lead to a bigger spend overall if mini tuning becomes a bit more accessible

4] gutted as i have one already, but happy for those who haven't

rob'smini · Mar 7th, 2008, 03:47 PM

what sort of gains are to be had from this on a cooper? and will it fit on to oem cat bk zorst? and how much for a de-cat pipe, and gains with that?

and i guess this would make it louder, but by ow much?

sorry for all the qus

red-hotmini · Mar 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM

I hope the price is right as I would like to come down asap and have it fitted, how much is fitting by the way? and what sort off horsepower and torque do you think I will see on my JCW 210?
Sorry for all the questions I’m a bit confused reading other threads on this subject.

Do you have a dyno so I can see the difference on the day?

Many thanks
Red-hotmini

AndyP · Mar 9th, 2008, 03:41 PM

Would be interested in this.

We have a Playmini cat back exhaust, will this fit OK with the Janspeed manifold?

Jaw_F430 · Mar 9th, 2008, 10:41 PM

I have just bought one direct from Janspeed at £380 delivered!!! So the price is right

Regards

James

Vecchio Engineering · Mar 11th, 2008, 08:48 PM

The Janspeed manifold will create more noise regardless of what cat-back system you currently have. Please note the Janspeed system is compatible with all other aftermarket systems including the OEM item. This manifold will work on ALL PETROL 1st GEN MINI's.

AndyP · Mar 27th, 2008, 06:23 PM

Anything happening with this?

Vecchio Engineering · Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:06 AM

AndyP our site will be up and running by late afternoon and you will be able to purchase the Janspeed Manifold for £379(Inc vat) +P&P!

PmP · Apr 4th, 2008, 04:40 PM

How much would P+P be to Northern Ireland? As im sure it isnt light!

Also how hard is it to get the old one off and this back on? As the Mini is quite tight for space!

Vecchio Engineering · Apr 4th, 2008, 07:53 PM

Hello, P&P to Northern Ireland is £18.50(Inc vat) it will take a couple of days. As for fitting it makes life a whole lot easier if you have access to a ramp. It can be done on the drive-way but its awkward.

Hugo · Apr 4th, 2008, 08:14 PM

Thats a good price!!!!!!!!!!

Tempting

PmP · Apr 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Vecchio Engineering (original)

Hello, P&P to Northern Ireland is £18.50(Inc vat) it will take a couple of days. As for fitting it makes life a whole lot easier if you have access to a ramp. It can be done on the drive-way but its awkward.

Thanks brother in law has a car ramp, so wouldnt be an issue. I'm interested but I assume the price is only if you get 10 interested parties.

Vecchio Engineering · Apr 5th, 2008, 05:27 PM

I will have to confirm Monday with Janspeed. If it all goes to plan (heard this cliché too many times before

) it will be on our website late Monday morning for £379(Inc vat) + P&P. I’ll keep you all posted. No minimum number of orders required!

Mar 5th, 2008, 02:01 PM	#1
Vecchio Engineering MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: May 2007 Location: VECCHIO.CO.UK Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 145 Offline	Group Buy: 1st Gen Janspeed Manifold & Cat £379 (Inc vat) We will be offering this high performance manifold for a ridiculously low price of £379 (Inc vat). However in order to keep at this low price we need a minimum of 10 people for this to work. If you are interested at all please let me know. This is by far one of the best manifolds out there for the Mini; it has four equal length primaries merging to a large bore section. I’ve attached a pic of the manifold. It is constructed from 304 stainless steel and unlike many other manifold manufactures has a removable cat should you ever have to replace it or substitute a de-cat pipe instead for a track day. The manifold will work for all petrol Gen 1 Mini’s. Vecchio Engineering - Suppling BMW Mini Spares to the Public and Trade Interest in Janspeed Manifold: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Attached Thumbnails www.vecchio.co.uk

Mar 6th, 2008, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 706 Offline	Is that price correct chap? You must be selling at a loss! TBH Im tempted to buy all 10 and then sell them at a normal price! Joking apart, does this major discounting not de-value the product? Lucky is a way of life (tm) 243.5 bhp & 205.3 ft lb

Mar 7th, 2008, 08:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 674 Offline	I'd be interested in this but I currently have a Borla Cat back which is quite loud. I'm a little concerned at the noise levels if I have one of these... Can't be scaring the neighbours can I... LOL www.miniclubuk.com

Mar 7th, 2008, 09:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 706 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Silent1 (original) How does a discount de-value a product! It's not like he's saying, buy an exahust and we'll give you a janspeed manifold (because they're cack) He's just selling them for a price he feels they're valued at, rather than the RRP Try telling that tp the folks that have just bought one at the correct price. I suppose it depends on the size of a business with regard to overheads etc, but we see it all the time with ebay sellers under cutting the proper suppliers. When there are no mini tuners left, im sure will ask why did they all close! Lucky is a way of life (tm) 243.5 bhp & 205.3 ft lb

Mar 7th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Vecchio Engineering MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: May 2007 Location: VECCHIO.CO.UK Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 145 Offline	Thank you for all your interest. However we feel £379 (Inc vat) is a fair price for this manifold. Obviously the group buy offer has helped with the lower pricing. www.vecchio.co.uk

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Mar 7th, 2008, 05:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
Silent1 Supercharger Noiseaholic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: East Anglia Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 180 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original) Is that price correct chap? You must be selling at a loss! TBH Im tempted to buy all 10 and then sell them at a normal price! Joking apart, does this major discounting not de-value the product? How does a discount de-value a product! It's not like he's saying, buy an exahust and we'll give you a janspeed manifold (because they're cack) He's just selling them for a price he feels they're valued at, rather than the RRP

Mar 7th, 2008, 11:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
CJB_MCS MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 14 Offline	What’s the correct price? An RRP is only suggested by the manufacturer, it is surely up to the retailer to decide what margins they want to make. If we stick to a "correct price" on goods then either the manufacturer is artificially keeping the cost high to maintain brand and typically protect their preferred retailers, or the retailers have got together to fix price......neither great for the customer. I think the vast majority of Mini2 ers woulfd love to see more of these deals. Leo - Thanks for the PM, if this goes ahead then please count me in.

Mar 7th, 2008, 03:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
alski ever been on a dyno Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: banbury Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 917 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Lucky Dave (original) Is that price correct chap? You must be selling at a loss! TBH Im tempted to buy all 10 and then sell them at a normal price! Joking apart, does this major discounting not de-value the product? i see the angle your coming from, but i see it this way 1] the fact that a car can be built in the UK and shipped half way across the world and sold at 20% discount has not stopped you buying a mini.... 2] compared to Ford, GM, Japanese and even VAG motors mini tuning on the whole does not appear that cheap 3]cheaper parts may lead to a bigger spend overall if mini tuning becomes a bit more accessible 4] gutted as i have one already, but happy for those who haven't carefree

Mar 7th, 2008, 03:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
rob'smini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 57 Offline	what sort of gains are to be had from this on a cooper? and will it fit on to oem cat bk zorst? and how much for a de-cat pipe, and gains with that? and i guess this would make it louder, but by ow much? sorry for all the qus

Mar 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
red-hotmini MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Local Time: 07:19 AM Posts: 1 Offline	I hope the price is right as I would like to come down asap and have it fitted, how much is fitting by the way? and what sort off horsepower and torque do you think I will see on my JCW 210? Sorry for all the questions I’m a bit confused reading other threads on this subject. Do you have a dyno so I can see the difference on the day? Many thanks Red-hotmini

Mar 9th, 2008, 03:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
AndyP MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 141 Offline	Would be interested in this. We have a Playmini cat back exhaust, will this fit OK with the Janspeed manifold? R56 JCW Cooper S Auto. Laser Blue, Black Roof, R105's, Sat Nav.... the list goes on. R53 Cooper S Auto. Chilli Red, R95's. Playmini Catback Exhaust.

Mar 9th, 2008, 10:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jaw_F430 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 7600rpm Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 675 Offline	I have just bought one direct from Janspeed at £380 delivered!!! So the price is right Regards James

Mar 11th, 2008, 08:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Vecchio Engineering MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: May 2007 Location: VECCHIO.CO.UK Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 145 Offline	The Janspeed manifold will create more noise regardless of what cat-back system you currently have. Please note the Janspeed system is compatible with all other aftermarket systems including the OEM item. This manifold will work on ALL PETROL 1st GEN MINI's. www.vecchio.co.uk Last edited by Vecchio Engineering : Mar 11th, 2008 at 08:50 PM. Reason: text in bold

Mar 27th, 2008, 06:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
AndyP MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 141 Offline	Anything happening with this? R56 JCW Cooper S Auto. Laser Blue, Black Roof, R105's, Sat Nav.... the list goes on. R53 Cooper S Auto. Chilli Red, R95's. Playmini Catback Exhaust.

Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
Vecchio Engineering MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: May 2007 Location: VECCHIO.CO.UK Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 145 Offline	AndyP our site will be up and running by late afternoon and you will be able to purchase the Janspeed Manifold for £379(Inc vat) +P&P! www.vecchio.co.uk

Apr 4th, 2008, 04:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 2,627 Offline	How much would P+P be to Northern Ireland? As im sure it isnt light! Also how hard is it to get the old one off and this back on? As the Mini is quite tight for space!

Apr 4th, 2008, 07:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
Vecchio Engineering MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: May 2007 Location: VECCHIO.CO.UK Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 145 Offline	Hello, P&P to Northern Ireland is £18.50(Inc vat) it will take a couple of days. As for fitting it makes life a whole lot easier if you have access to a ramp. It can be done on the drive-way but its awkward. www.vecchio.co.uk

Apr 4th, 2008, 08:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norn Iron Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 2,456 Offline	Thats a good price!!!!!!!!!! Tempting

Apr 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 2,627 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Vecchio Engineering (original) Hello, P&P to Northern Ireland is £18.50(Inc vat) it will take a couple of days. As for fitting it makes life a whole lot easier if you have access to a ramp. It can be done on the drive-way but its awkward. Thanks brother in law has a car ramp, so wouldnt be an issue. I'm interested but I assume the price is only if you get 10 interested parties.

Apr 5th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vecchio Engineering MINI2 Sponsor Join Date: May 2007 Location: VECCHIO.CO.UK Local Time: 08:19 AM Posts: 145 Offline	I will have to confirm Monday with Janspeed. If it all goes to plan (heard this cliché too many times before) it will be on our website late Monday morning for £379(Inc vat) + P&P. I’ll keep you all posted. No minimum number of orders required! www.vecchio.co.uk

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