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Old Feb 4th, 2006, 05:39 PM   #1
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Uprated Brakes (changing)

i have just bought the EBC Brake pads, discs and a couple of bottles of AP Racing Brake fluid, oh and goodridge braided brake lines.

I have installed discs and pads couple of times before and bled loads of land rovers brake systems but from what i have read the minis resevoir also feeds the clutch

what is the easiest way of changing out the hoses (drain out the whole system then refill) or (let it go all over the shop while i change the hoses then try to swap out the fluid as i go)

i really don't want to get air into the system but is it possible to do this any other way!!!!

heeeeelp!
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Old Feb 4th, 2006, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackFerret
i have just bought the EBC Brake pads, discs and a couple of bottles of AP Racing Brake fluid, oh and goodridge braided brake lines.

I have installed discs and pads couple of times before and bled loads of land rovers brake systems but from what i have read the minis resevoir also feeds the clutch

what is the easiest way of changing out the hoses (drain out the whole system then refill) or (let it go all over the shop while i change the hoses then try to swap out the fluid as i go)

i really don't want to get air into the system but is it possible to do this any other way!!!!

heeeeelp!

I didn't have much problem when I changed mine out. I just made pluge from vacuum hose to cap the lines while I swapped out the lines. Kept the drip to a minimum. Lost maybe a 1/3rd of a cup.You'll get a drizzle when you take of the lines, that's the worst part and that's just what's in the line.

After that I bled the whole system and forgot about the clutch , did that later.
You should do that first. Ooops on me.
Luckily it didn't make a difference.

I usually get the leaky messy part done first to reduce any chance of getting brake fluid on my new pads or rotors. That's just me though.
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Old Feb 4th, 2006, 06:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ohhh thx i may do this!

still though do you get some poor soul to pour in the juice while you pump the pedal and try to get it through to all the system one-by-one? (as you go around)

surely the brake fluids will mix and make it less effective?

it may not be, correct me if i'm wrong
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Old Feb 5th, 2006, 08:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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anyone?
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Old Feb 5th, 2006, 12:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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From the mini manual ive got it recommends to use a pressure bleeder, not sure if this is actually a requirement though as ive never done it myself.
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From the mini manual ive got it recommends to use a pressure bleeder, not sure if this is actually a requirement though as ive never done it myself.

They're very nice but not cheap. Family labor is cheaper

BlackFerret:
The fluids don't really mix they stack up so the new pushes out the old. It's maybe 2-3 pedal pushes from when you see the old dark fluid leaving until it's all new fluid.

I have a clear drain tube that has a check ball at the end to keep air from being drawn back in.

The wife or daughter does the pedal pumping

Now here's a single guy story for you.
I used to mod Chevy pickup trucks and did most of the work alone. So I built a pedal pusher out of an old truck shock and some blocks of wood.
I'd pump the pedal and then wedge the shock in between my seat and the pedal then go crack the bleed valve,

Mother of invention eh
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ROFL!!!!!

thx for the info mate!

i'll just pour it in then!
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Old Feb 5th, 2006, 08:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hope I am repeating what you already know but keep the brake fluid topped up all the time.
It was never good to get air in by letting the fluid go low in the reservoir but on modern cars
if you get air in the ABS unit it's a specialist job to get it out. I'm sure you won't though .

Some people are like a Slinky ........ not really good for anything, but you still can't help
but smile when you shove them down the stairs
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Old Feb 5th, 2006, 08:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i shall draft in a squad of minions to watch that resevoir with the eyes of eagles.....
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Old Feb 5th, 2006, 08:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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easy bleed

you can buy a cheap easy bleed kit,its a bottle you fill with fluid and connect to the reservoir it has another hose you connect to the spare wheel and this pushes the fluid through making it a one man operation
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i've seen these my mate has one just thinking whether to go borrow it!
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