MCS 17" to 15" rims. Experiences needed. - MINI Cooper Forum - MINI2 Mini Cooper Forums
Please Visit our Site Sponsors
» Premium
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   MINI Cooper Forum - MINI2 Mini Cooper Forums > MINI Technical Forums > Wheels, Tyres & Brakes

Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
Find Sponsor products associated with this forum
For (almost) all things alloy, steel and rubber, plus upgrading your MINI's stopping ability

Sponsored by:

Mini2.com is the premier Mini Cooper Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Jun 10th, 2006, 01:16 PM
MarkPe's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View MarkPe's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Thumbs up MCS 17" to 15" rims. Experiences needed.

Am after peoples experiences who are currently driving an MCS on 15" rims but originally started on 17" rims.

What kind of differences can one expect to notice with regards to the following:
- Acceleration
- Handling, corning, ride comfort.
- Braking

I am currently considering changing my 17" S Spokes for some 15x7 rims with some 205/55/15 tyres. The current list consists of
- Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2
- Team Dynamics Pro Race 2
- OZ Ultra Legerra

This should reduce my wheel weight by almost 50%, which is quite a saving.

Any other thoughts and opinions welcome.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Jun 10th, 2006, 01:46 PM
ALD0's Avatar
Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI2 Master
Offline
Send a message via MSN to ALD0 Send a message via Skype™ to ALD0
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chester
Posts: 9,638
Local Time: 07:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View ALD0's Hyper Blue & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View ALD0's Classified Ads
Hello,

My personal expirience is:

Better acceleration
Worse Handling/Cornering
Better ride comfort
Didn't really notice any diff in brakes tbh, you should also get better fuel economy.

Hope that helps

Si
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Jun 10th, 2006, 01:49 PM
MarkPe's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View MarkPe's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Thanks for your comments Si.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Jun 10th, 2006, 08:26 PM
minicore's Avatar
MINI2 Premium Member
Super Moderator
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4,637
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View minicore's Chili Red & Body Color 2nd Gen MINI John Cooper Works Profile
I would agree with Si, and add that the biggest issue is a cosmetic one - I wouldn't swap my 17s for 15s, regardless of the slight performance increases. In fact, I'm considering putting 18s on.

But in summary, you could expect better acceleration and ride, but worse handling... in my experience at least.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Jun 10th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Mini2 Newbie, MGB Oldie
Offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 8
Local Time: 07:49 AM
Germany
You're better half is less likely to scratch your alloys if you have the higher profile tyres...

Might be important!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Jun 10th, 2006, 09:48 PM
MarkPe's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View MarkPe's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Speaking from experience there Mike (think I remember reading something in another thread about that)

Ok so the handling is worse but improvements in the other areas.

Any body out there that was happy with this kind of change?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Jun 11th, 2006, 12:40 AM
PM_'s Avatar
PM_
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 97
Local Time: 05:49 PM
Australia View PM_'s Solid Black & Body Color 1st Gen MINI Cooper Profile
IMHO 16" is a better compromise
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Jun 11th, 2006, 03:12 PM
Humourl3ss's Avatar
Now With More Cowbell
Offline
Send a message via MSN to Humourl3ss
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Canada City
Posts: 1,687
Local Time: 02:49 AM
Canada View Humourl3ss's Chili Red & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
I've run 15, 16 and 17 inch rims. The 15s are for (non-RF) snow tires, so my experience is biased somewhat in that they lacked ultimate grip and were noiser. Offsetting that is the plusher ride and a slightly more lively feel (down likely to reduced weight and narrower 195-series rubber). 17s were on the dreaded S-spokes, and thus had a clunky, crashy, ponderous sensation; albeit one tempered by greater grip. They also look cartoonishly, freakishly large to me (though I'm old enough to remember when a Porsche 911 came standard with 15" wheels).

As others have said, 16" rims and rubber are probably the best compromise.

Global Moderator
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Jun 11th, 2006, 03:46 PM
MarkPe's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View MarkPe's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Thanks PM_ and Humourl3ss, interesting to hear you would both go for 16" rims.

The idea for going for the 205 tyres is to at least give the same width as my current 17x7, so hopefully not comprising the grip to much.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Jun 11th, 2006, 08:27 PM
Alan Wolfe's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Denton, Tx
Posts: 66
Local Time: 12:49 AM
United States Male
I use 15 x 6.5 inch wheels (Flik Blast) for autocross and track days. I don't know where the handling comments come from, but my data says much better handling with the 15 inch wheels. Mostly due to 10 lbs less of unsprung wheight at each corner.

Big wheels are all about bling, unless they facilitate big brakes.

Alan
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Jun 11th, 2006, 08:44 PM
MarkPe's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 95
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View MarkPe's Electric Blue & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
Interesting Alan, can I ask what data you are refering too?

As I currently dont have big brakes that wont be an issue.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Jun 11th, 2006, 09:58 PM
F355GTS's Avatar
MINI2 Newbie
Offline
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Berks, England
Posts: 39
Local Time: 06:49 AM
United Kingdom Male View F355GTS's Classified Ads
I'm a bit confused by the suggestion of better acceleration, 15" with 205/55 is a larger o/a rolling radius than 17" with I assume std 205/40's therefore acceleration will be marginally impaired, I appreciate we are talking negligable amounts!.

I've no doubt ride comfort will be improved

Mark
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Jun 14th, 2006, 06:40 PM
SalemMINIDriver's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Harpswell, ME
Posts: 173
Local Time: 02:49 AM
United States Male View SalemMINIDriver's Pepper White & Black 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile
We go back and forth between R12s with 175/65 R15 and R85s with 205/45 R17 RF summer tires. I don't recall the weight difference, but I've added it up in the past, and the rolling mass reduction is substantial. I notice no difference in acceleration and very little difference, if any, in ride comfort. The only positives in downsizing from my experience are lighter steering and reduced tramlining. They are outweighed by the reduced grip and less crisp handling on turn-in that accompany the skinnier tires. Keep your expectations modest. You're setting yourself up for disapointment if you anticipate the car being transformed.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MCS off to the "Ring" the Nurburgring, any experiences? c5_nun General Discussion 2 Jul 22nd, 2005 12:24 PM
"T" needed for Alta air kit on 2005 MCS? asterix2112 First Generation MINI Tuning 1 May 11th, 2005 09:54 PM
I like wide rims, can 17" or 18"x9" wheels fit? My Mama's Cooper Wheels, Tyres & Brakes 4 Jan 12th, 2004 09:06 PM
Cooper S "Works" kit experiences mhoutman First Generation Works 0 Apr 5th, 2003 11:22 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:49 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2