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MarkW19 · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:24 PM

I'd be having aftermarket wheels on my JCW (18" BK299s in black), so I spec'd up the included 16" wheels with my MINI.

BUT, after I added the JCW package, it's told me I need different wheels (presumably because of the JCW brakes?) which are an extra £370!!

Is there any way I can get away from this, ie. a helpful dealer that can specify the normal wheels still and fit my new wheels for me so I don't have to pay the £370?

WhiteNoiseMaker · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:28 PM

Don't see how any dealer can help with that problem. If your having the JCW's kit fitted at the factory, there's no way for them to move the car if the wheels are too small for the breaks.

MarkW19 · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:30 PM

I suppose the bigger wheels will sell for more though.

WhiteNoiseMaker · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:32 PM

How about getting the dealer to fit the JCW after you've run the car in? It will probably end up costing you more than the £370 wheel upgrade though, so your still no better off.

faster,Tobias! · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

I'd be having aftermarket wheels on my JCW (18" BK299s in black), so I spec'd up the included 16" wheels with my MINI.

BUT, after I added the JCW package, it's told me I need different wheels (presumably because of the JCW brakes?) which are an extra £370!!

Is there any way I can get away from this, ie. a helpful dealer that can specify the normal wheels still and fit my new wheels for me so I don't have to pay the £370?

IIRC, there is one type of OEM 16" rim that will go over the JCW brakes. Perhaps you could convince your dealer to do a straight trade, the 17 S-lites that will be on the car for the 16's that fit? Sorry I can't remember the style, but I think I read it on MINI2.

rabbit · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:43 PM

How much did you pay for the JCW brakes to be included in the Works package ?

MarkW19 · Jun 14th, 2006, 04:45 PM

The "JCW Package" in the UK includes the brakes, it's £3600 factory fitted.

rabbit · Jun 14th, 2006, 05:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

The "JCW Package" in the UK includes the brakes, it's £3600 factory fitted.

I got my JCW from Mini Park Lane and was told the brakes were not part of the package !!

Bilbo Baggins · Jun 14th, 2006, 05:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rabbit

I got my JCW from Mini Park Lane and was told the brakes were not part of the package !!

If the JCW kit is factory installed it includes the JC brake kit and LSD. If the JCW kit is dealer installed you can get the parts individually.

That is all OK, as long as you can trust your dealer to do the install without mucking it up.

So, order your MCS with the LSD then have your dealer install the JCW kit and add the JCW brakes if you want.(Some reviews of the JCW brakes do not make you want to run out and spend your money on them) Or, go aftermarket BigBrakeKit and get some excellant aluminium caliper BBK with aluminium hat ventilated disks.

MarkW19 · Jun 14th, 2006, 05:46 PM

Oh I didn't realise the LSD came as part of the JCW package?

WhiteNoiseMaker · Jun 14th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Its not really part of it they make you pay the extra £100 for the LSD, if you've not got the chili package that is.

MarkW19 · Jun 14th, 2006, 06:03 PM

You're right, just discovered that!

Hyper Active · Jun 14th, 2006, 10:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

I'd be having aftermarket wheels on my JCW (18" BK299s in black), so I spec'd up the included 16" wheels with my MINI.

BUT, after I added the JCW package, it's told me I need different wheels (presumably because of the JCW brakes?) which are an extra £370!!

Is there any way I can get away from this, ie. a helpful dealer that can specify the normal wheels still and fit my new wheels for me so I don't have to pay the £370?

As you are a Privilege Member you could sell the 17" wheels on here after you have bought the car. I'm sure you would have no trouble selling brand new unmarked 17" OEM wheels.

minicore · Jun 15th, 2006, 08:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active

As you are a Privilege Member you could sell the 17" wheels on here after you have bought the car. I'm sure you would have no trouble selling brand new unmarked 17" OEM wheels.

I agree, or put them on eBay - you'll easily get £300-400 back for them.

MarkW19 · Jun 15th, 2006, 06:36 PM

Quick question:-

Will the JCW brakes be ok with BK 299 18" (7.5) with no need for spacers etc.? Also is the correct tyre size 215/35/18??

Hyper Active · Jun 15th, 2006, 07:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19

Quick question:-

Will the JCW brakes be ok with BK 299 18" (7.5) with no need for spacers etc.? Also is the correct tyre size 215/35/18??

That is the correct tyre size. Clearance of the brakes depends on the offset on your BK299 wheels. You could try asking the question about clearance in a new thread. After all your public would be disappointed if you stopped asking new questions everyday

.

MarkW19 · Jun 15th, 2006, 07:49 PM

lol, hey I'm nearly there. I believe my questions are running out!!

BTW, isn't "7.5" the offset? Don't know anything about offsets really, but on the BK site you have a choice of the BK299 18" in either 7 or 7.5.

Ferroequine · Jun 15th, 2006, 08:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by faster,Tobias!

IIRC, there is one type of OEM 16" rim that will go over the JCW brakes. Perhaps you could convince your dealer to do a straight trade, the 17 S-lites that will be on the car for the 16's that fit? Sorry I can't remember the style, but I think I read it on MINI2.

You're right, apparently the R87 16" Double Spoke will fit the JCW brakes. Got it from Outmotoring.

Damo · Jun 15th, 2006, 09:34 PM

The BK299's will fit with the JCW brakes.

7.5" is the width of the wheel, not the offset. The offset on these is 45.

But the right offset doesn't mean they'll automaticaly fit as its the clearence created by the design of the wheel..

However 18" BK299's will have loads of clearence for the modest JCW brakes.

MarkW19 · Jun 15th, 2006, 09:36 PM

Nice one

Jun 14th, 2006, 04:24 PM	#1
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	Wheels on a JCW I'd be having aftermarket wheels on my JCW (18" BK299s in black), so I spec'd up the included 16" wheels with my MINI. BUT, after I added the JCW package, it's told me I need different wheels (presumably because of the JCW brakes?) which are an extra £370!! Is there any way I can get away from this, ie. a helpful dealer that can specify the normal wheels still and fit my new wheels for me so I don't have to pay the £370?

Jun 14th, 2006, 05:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 02:24 AM Posts: 8,854 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rabbit I got my JCW from Mini Park Lane and was told the brakes were not part of the package !! If the JCW kit is factory installed it includes the JC brake kit and LSD. If the JCW kit is dealer installed you can get the parts individually. That is all OK, as long as you can trust your dealer to do the install without mucking it up. So, order your MCS with the LSD then have your dealer install the JCW kit and add the JCW brakes if you want.(Some reviews of the JCW brakes do not make you want to run out and spend your money on them) Or, go aftermarket BigBrakeKit and get some excellant aluminium caliper BBK with aluminium hat ventilated disks. Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired)

Jun 15th, 2006, 08:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ferroequine Formerly known as MiniVee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 1,321 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by faster,Tobias! IIRC, there is one type of OEM 16" rim that will go over the JCW brakes. Perhaps you could convince your dealer to do a straight trade, the 17 S-lites that will be on the car for the 16's that fit? Sorry I can't remember the style, but I think I read it on MINI2. You're right, apparently the R87 16" Double Spoke will fit the JCW brakes. Got it from Outmotoring. www.MINICalgary.com

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Jun 14th, 2006, 04:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
WhiteNoiseMaker MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, UK Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 263 Offline	Don't see how any dealer can help with that problem. If your having the JCW's kit fitted at the factory, there's no way for them to move the car if the wheels are too small for the breaks.

Jun 14th, 2006, 04:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	I suppose the bigger wheels will sell for more though.

Jun 14th, 2006, 04:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
WhiteNoiseMaker MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, UK Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 263 Offline	How about getting the dealer to fit the JCW after you've run the car in? It will probably end up costing you more than the £370 wheel upgrade though, so your still no better off.

Jun 14th, 2006, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
faster,Tobias! Fanatically Enthiusiastic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Local Time: 12:24 AM Posts: 1,165 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 I'd be having aftermarket wheels on my JCW (18" BK299s in black), so I spec'd up the included 16" wheels with my MINI. BUT, after I added the JCW package, it's told me I need different wheels (presumably because of the JCW brakes?) which are an extra £370!! Is there any way I can get away from this, ie. a helpful dealer that can specify the normal wheels still and fit my new wheels for me so I don't have to pay the £370? IIRC, there is one type of OEM 16" rim that will go over the JCW brakes. Perhaps you could convince your dealer to do a straight trade, the 17 S-lites that will be on the car for the 16's that fit? Sorry I can't remember the style, but I think I read it on MINI2.

Jun 14th, 2006, 04:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
rabbit MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Woking Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 126 Offline	How much did you pay for the JCW brakes to be included in the Works package ?

Jun 14th, 2006, 04:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	The "JCW Package" in the UK includes the brakes, it's £3600 factory fitted.

Jun 14th, 2006, 05:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
rabbit MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Woking Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 126 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 The "JCW Package" in the UK includes the brakes, it's £3600 factory fitted. I got my JCW from Mini Park Lane and was told the brakes were not part of the package !!

Jun 14th, 2006, 05:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	Oh I didn't realise the LSD came as part of the JCW package?

Jun 14th, 2006, 06:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
WhiteNoiseMaker MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, UK Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 263 Offline	Its not really part of it they make you pay the extra £100 for the LSD, if you've not got the chili package that is.

Jun 14th, 2006, 06:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	You're right, just discovered that!

Jun 14th, 2006, 10:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 2,212 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 I'd be having aftermarket wheels on my JCW (18" BK299s in black), so I spec'd up the included 16" wheels with my MINI. BUT, after I added the JCW package, it's told me I need different wheels (presumably because of the JCW brakes?) which are an extra £370!! Is there any way I can get away from this, ie. a helpful dealer that can specify the normal wheels still and fit my new wheels for me so I don't have to pay the £370? As you are a Privilege Member you could sell the 17" wheels on here after you have bought the car. I'm sure you would have no trouble selling brand new unmarked 17" OEM wheels.

Jun 15th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
minicore Eat my dust. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 2,186 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active As you are a Privilege Member you could sell the 17" wheels on here after you have bought the car. I'm sure you would have no trouble selling brand new unmarked 17" OEM wheels. I agree, or put them on eBay - you'll easily get £300-400 back for them.

Jun 15th, 2006, 06:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	Quick question:- Will the JCW brakes be ok with BK 299 18" (7.5) with no need for spacers etc.? Also is the correct tyre size 215/35/18??

Jun 15th, 2006, 07:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 2,212 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by MarkW19 Quick question:- Will the JCW brakes be ok with BK 299 18" (7.5) with no need for spacers etc.? Also is the correct tyre size 215/35/18?? That is the correct tyre size. Clearance of the brakes depends on the offset on your BK299 wheels. You could try asking the question about clearance in a new thread. After all your public would be disappointed if you stopped asking new questions everyday .

Jun 15th, 2006, 07:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	lol, hey I'm nearly there. I believe my questions are running out!! BTW, isn't "7.5" the offset? Don't know anything about offsets really, but on the BK site you have a choice of the BK299 18" in either 7 or 7.5.

Jun 15th, 2006, 09:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
Damo MINI2fosi My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 10,681 Offline	The BK299's will fit with the JCW brakes. 7.5" is the width of the wheel, not the offset. The offset on these is 45. But the right offset doesn't mean they'll automaticaly fit as its the clearence created by the design of the wheel.. However 18" BK299's will have loads of clearence for the modest JCW brakes.

Jun 15th, 2006, 09:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
MarkW19 Grinning Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 07:24 AM Posts: 3,831 Offline	Nice one

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