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Mini HeHa · Sep 21st, 2005, 09:14 PM

i have a slow puncture on my runflat tyres is it possible to fix these?

Fevs · Sep 21st, 2005, 09:28 PM

yep provinding its not on the shoulder or the side wall of the tyre and its a straight puncture and not a slit more than 5 mm

Mini HeHa · Sep 21st, 2005, 09:44 PM

thanx must check where puncture is.

Mon the fish · Sep 22nd, 2005, 06:55 PM

Had a puncture in one of mine last week, and was told by BMW, Kwik-Fit, ATS etc that runflats shouldn't be fixed, safety issue as stated by BMW.

I think its nonsense, had a puncture fixed on my old Cooper 2 years ago. I don't see the problem, but thats what I was told

Fevs · Sep 22nd, 2005, 06:59 PM

bmw will tell ya that they want a new tyre out of ya

i have had one repaired it had a 6mm drill bit in it they just pulled it out checked the side walls and plugged the hole job done for about 12 quid if i remember

Jim Ray · Sep 22nd, 2005, 07:10 PM

It is your car.

It is a runflat tyre.

Your car is equipped with low tire sensors.

Try it, if it leaks, the alarm will come on. Then buy a tyre.

I had one patched, never had a problem with it for the rest of the time I owned the car.

stephenjc · Sep 22nd, 2005, 07:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mini HeHa

i have a slow puncture on my runflat tyres is it possible to fix these?

My MCS is only 8 months old. Last month I had a puncture in a sidewall and that is apparently never repairable. So I had to get a new tire at the MINI dealer and it was something like $350 - no warranty of any kind.

Fevs · Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:01 PM

anything near to the side wall is a no go as that where the strength is

Mini HeHa · Sep 23rd, 2005, 06:12 PM

thanx for all response over runflats, will go an get repaired tomorrow and let u kno results.could not see the problems myself neway but thanx for ur help.

Jackpot JCW Joe · Sep 24th, 2005, 05:35 PM

runflats cannot be repaired - if anyone tells you that they can - there wrong

MukiMunki · Oct 2nd, 2005, 03:26 AM

I had a nail in a runflat about 10,000 miles ago.

It was patched, it's still fine.

cooper_s_flyer · Oct 2nd, 2005, 04:48 AM

...the puncture is relatively small (generally 2mm maximum) and,

If it is toward the middle (central) 6 inches of the tread patch. It cannot be a severely angled puncture... it should be at less than a 30% 'slant', and in any case the 'travel' of that 'slant' cannot encroach on the tire's sidewall, or even be within an inch or so of the sidewall.

The proper fix is the vulcanized plug/patch... a combination fix that is basically chemically and heat fused -into the puncture- and -onto the inside of the tire carcass- on top of the puncture to absolutely seal it. They hold beautifully and do not compromise the tire in the least.

I speak from direct experience... three repairs - holding without consequence. The tires ride as new and I assure you that such a repair holds under extreme circumstances.

cooper_s_flyer · Oct 2nd, 2005, 04:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by stephenjc

My MCS is only 8 months old. Last month I had a puncture in a sidewall and that is apparently never repairable. So I had to get a new tire at the MINI dealer and it was something like $350 - no warranty of any kind.

...the RSA runflats are $255 each with road hazard certs. from Discount Tire Co.

Dunlops were a bit cheaper last I checked... and the Euforias were comparable in price.

stephenjc · Oct 2nd, 2005, 05:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by cooper_s_flyer

...the RSA runflats are $255 each with road hazard certs. from Discount Tire Co.

Dunlops were a bit cheaper last I checked... and the Euforias were comparable in price.

No one near me seemed to have them in stock and I needed the tire fixed that day. My only option was the BMW/MINI dealer. The $350 included install etc. but no doubt I paid the highest price.

cooper_s_flyer · Oct 2nd, 2005, 05:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by stephenjc

No one near me seemed to have them in stock and I needed the tire fixed that day. My only option was the BMW/MINI dealer. The $350 included install etc. but no doubt I paid the highest price.

...correct Stephen... Sometimes you've just got to do what you got to do...

I have been in that situation as well ...so I know just how you feel. I keep four new RSA's mounted on S-Spokes in the garage... for any {dire} occasion, and ostensibly to avoid total financial misery. I picked up a fifth wheel/tire last week with 5800 miles on them.

Hey... do you know know if we can use 0w-40w Mobil 1 in the S JCW (210) ??? I have 90 or so quarts (Pep Boys half-price coupons) of the stuff stashed away (stockpile from 2 former cars: '88 M6 & '89 M3)...

I have searched the archives with only mixed results... (nothing definitive).

fone · Oct 2nd, 2005, 11:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jackpot JCW Joe

runflats cannot be repaired - if anyone tells you that they can - there wrong

Had the tyre warning flashing yesterday and on closer inspection of the one of rear tyres, after getting home 24km later, there was a nail embedded. Took it to the local shop and the guy pulled out a two inch nail - still baffled how the whole two inches of it went right thru. Because it was in the middle of the thread area, it could be repaired and so far so good. Perhaps a Mini dealer would have made me buy a new tyre !

One good thing it was a rear tyre and also a runflat.

So runflat can be repaired provided the punture is at least 5mm from the sidewalls..

gtshnzr · Oct 3rd, 2005, 02:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Ray

It is your car.

It is a runflat tyre.

Your car is equipped with low tire sensors.

Try it, if it leaks, the alarm will come on. Then buy a tyre.

I had one patched, never had a problem with it for the rest of the time I owned the car.

Same here. Had it patched at about 5,000 miles. Now have 26,000 on the tires. So far so good.

GAM · Oct 3rd, 2005, 11:49 AM

I had my runflat alarm go off yesterday as well. A permanent red light came on in the alarm, and not a flashing light.
Checked my tire pressures, one was a bit low but i don't know if i have a puncture or not.

What does the solid light mean??

kezman50 · Oct 4th, 2005, 12:03 PM

The official standpoint is that a runflat tyre is not meant to be repaired PERIOD! Regardless whether the offending article is in....or out of the danger area!!

However...as many people have already testified. The reality is that they can be repaired, safely just like a normal tyre. It's just (and this is the problem I faced when I picked up a puncture on a RF) that it is increasingly hard to find a tyre shop that will repair them these days!! Their all receiving internal memo's and the like instructing them not to repair Runfats.

In the end , I used a sealant product called "Ultra Seal" Designed for High speed road use, Bikes, Low profile tyres. Results have been outstanding. Fixed the puncture, no high speed imbalance , vibration, anything !

Have no affiliation with the above.

fone · Oct 4th, 2005, 12:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GAM

I had my runflat alarm go off yesterday as well. A permanent red light came on in the alarm, and not a flashing light.
Checked my tire pressures, one was a bit low but i don't know if i have a puncture or not.

What does the solid light mean??

I think the owner's manual says a permanent yellow warning light means system faulty and needs dealer's attention.

After pumping up the tyre and re-setting the sensor, do you still get the yellow warning light on ??

Sep 21st, 2005, 09:14 PM	#1
Mini HeHa MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: northants Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 23 Offline	Can Runflats be fixed? i have a slow puncture on my runflat tyres is it possible to fix these?

Sep 21st, 2005, 09:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fevs heading north !!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on the move Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 8,843 Offline	yep provinding its not on the shoulder or the side wall of the tyre and its a straight puncture and not a slit more than 5 mm Global motivator

Sep 22nd, 2005, 06:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mon the fish Stand Free Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Location, Location Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 136 Offline	Had a puncture in one of mine last week, and was told by BMW, Kwik-Fit, ATS etc that runflats shouldn't be fixed, safety issue as stated by BMW. I think its nonsense, had a puncture fixed on my old Cooper 2 years ago. I don't see the problem, but thats what I was told Statistics are like mini-skirts, they give you a lot of ideas but hide whats important

Sep 22nd, 2005, 06:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fevs heading north !!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on the move Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 8,843 Offline	bmw will tell ya that they want a new tyre out of ya i have had one repaired it had a 6mm drill bit in it they just pulled it out checked the side walls and plugged the hole job done for about 12 quid if i remember Global motivator

Sep 22nd, 2005, 08:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fevs heading north !!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on the move Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 8,843 Offline	anything near to the side wall is a no go as that where the strength is Global motivator

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Sep 21st, 2005, 09:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mini HeHa MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: northants Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 23 Offline	thanx must check where puncture is.

Sep 22nd, 2005, 07:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jim Ray AprilWhine's Fuzzy One Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Local Time: 11:17 PM Posts: 1,541 Offline	It is your car. It is a runflat tyre. Your car is equipped with low tire sensors. Try it, if it leaks, the alarm will come on. Then buy a tyre. I had one patched, never had a problem with it for the rest of the time I owned the car.

Sep 22nd, 2005, 07:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
stephenjc MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Suburb of Chicago Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 752 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Mini HeHa i have a slow puncture on my runflat tyres is it possible to fix these? My MCS is only 8 months old. Last month I had a puncture in a sidewall and that is apparently never repairable. So I had to get a new tire at the MINI dealer and it was something like $350 - no warranty of any kind.

Sep 23rd, 2005, 06:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mini HeHa MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: northants Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 23 Offline	thanx for all response over runflats, will go an get repaired tomorrow and let u kno results.could not see the problems myself neway but thanx for ur help.

Sep 24th, 2005, 05:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jackpot JCW Joe MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 14 Offline	runflats cannot be repaired - if anyone tells you that they can - there wrong

Oct 2nd, 2005, 03:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
MukiMunki MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 337 Offline	I had a nail in a runflat about 10,000 miles ago. It was patched, it's still fine. 54 Plate All Black Cooper S with Chilli, BoostCD, MFSW, Heated bits. http://www.evoposters.net/carsb/album43

Oct 2nd, 2005, 04:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
cooper_s_flyer Carpe Diem Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Local Time: 02:17 AM Posts: 333 Offline	Yes they can be repaired if... ...the puncture is relatively small (generally 2mm maximum) and, If it is toward the middle (central) 6 inches of the tread patch. It cannot be a severely angled puncture... it should be at less than a 30% 'slant', and in any case the 'travel' of that 'slant' cannot encroach on the tire's sidewall, or even be within an inch or so of the sidewall. The proper fix is the vulcanized plug/patch... a combination fix that is basically chemically and heat fused -into the puncture- and -onto the inside of the tire carcass- on top of the puncture to absolutely seal it. They hold beautifully and do not compromise the tire in the least. I speak from direct experience... three repairs - holding without consequence. The tires ride as new and I assure you that such a repair holds under extreme circumstances. *It is not how fast you go, but how* you go.**

Oct 2nd, 2005, 04:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
cooper_s_flyer Carpe Diem Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Local Time: 02:17 AM Posts: 333 Offline	Stephen... Quote: Originally Posted by stephenjc My MCS is only 8 months old. Last month I had a puncture in a sidewall and that is apparently never repairable. So I had to get a new tire at the MINI dealer and it was something like $350 - no warranty of any kind. ...the RSA runflats are $255 each with road hazard certs. from Discount Tire Co. Dunlops were a bit cheaper last I checked... and the Euforias were comparable in price. *It is not how fast you go, but how* you go.**

Oct 2nd, 2005, 05:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
stephenjc MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Suburb of Chicago Local Time: 01:17 AM Posts: 752 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by cooper_s_flyer ...the RSA runflats are $255 each with road hazard certs. from Discount Tire Co. Dunlops were a bit cheaper last I checked... and the Euforias were comparable in price. No one near me seemed to have them in stock and I needed the tire fixed that day. My only option was the BMW/MINI dealer. The $350 included install etc. but no doubt I paid the highest price.

Oct 2nd, 2005, 05:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
cooper_s_flyer Carpe Diem Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Local Time: 02:17 AM Posts: 333 Offline	You are of course... Quote: Originally Posted by stephenjc No one near me seemed to have them in stock and I needed the tire fixed that day. My only option was the BMW/MINI dealer. The $350 included install etc. but no doubt I paid the highest price. ...correct Stephen... Sometimes you've just got to do what you got to do... I have been in that situation as well ...so I know just how you feel. I keep four new RSA's mounted on S-Spokes in the garage... for any {dire} occasion, and ostensibly to avoid total financial misery. I picked up a fifth wheel/tire last week with 5800 miles on them. Hey... do you know know if we can use 0w-40w Mobil 1 in the S JCW (210) ??? I have 90 or so quarts (Pep Boys half-price coupons) of the stuff stashed away (stockpile from 2 former cars: '88 M6 & '89 M3)... I have searched the archives with only mixed results... (nothing definitive). *It is not how fast you go, but how* you go.**

Oct 2nd, 2005, 11:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
fone MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Herts, England Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 126 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jackpot JCW Joe runflats cannot be repaired - if anyone tells you that they can - there wrong Had the tyre warning flashing yesterday and on closer inspection of the one of rear tyres, after getting home 24km later, there was a nail embedded. Took it to the local shop and the guy pulled out a two inch nail - still baffled how the whole two inches of it went right thru. Because it was in the middle of the thread area, it could be repaired and so far so good. Perhaps a Mini dealer would have made me buy a new tyre ! One good thing it was a rear tyre and also a runflat. So runflat can be repaired provided the punture is at least 5mm from the sidewalls..

Oct 3rd, 2005, 02:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
gtshnzr MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: green oaks Local Time: 02:17 AM Posts: 517 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Ray It is your car. It is a runflat tyre. Your car is equipped with low tire sensors. Try it, if it leaks, the alarm will come on. Then buy a tyre. I had one patched, never had a problem with it for the rest of the time I owned the car. Same here. Had it patched at about 5,000 miles. Now have 26,000 on the tires. So far so good. Early is on time; On time is late.

Oct 3rd, 2005, 11:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
GAM MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aberdeen Local Time: 07:17 AM Posts: 61 Offline	I had my runflat alarm go off yesterday as well. A permanent red light came on in the alarm, and not a flashing light. Checked my tire pressures, one was a bit low but i don't know if i have a puncture or not. What does the solid light mean??

Oct 4th, 2005, 12:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
kezman50 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leicester Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 154 Offline	The official standpoint is that a runflat tyre is not meant to be repaired PERIOD! Regardless whether the offending article is in....or out of the danger area!! However...as many people have already testified. The reality is that they can be repaired, safely just like a normal tyre. It's just (and this is the problem I faced when I picked up a puncture on a RF) that it is increasingly hard to find a tyre shop that will repair them these days!! Their all receiving internal memo's and the like instructing them not to repair Runfats. In the end , I used a sealant product called "Ultra Seal" Designed for High speed road use, Bikes, Low profile tyres. Results have been outstanding. Fixed the puncture, no high speed imbalance , vibration, anything ! Have no affiliation with the above.

Oct 4th, 2005, 12:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
fone MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Herts, England Local Time: 08:17 AM Posts: 126 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by GAM I had my runflat alarm go off yesterday as well. A permanent red light came on in the alarm, and not a flashing light. Checked my tire pressures, one was a bit low but i don't know if i have a puncture or not. What does the solid light mean?? I think the owner's manual says a permanent yellow warning light means system faulty and needs dealer's attention. After pumping up the tyre and re-setting the sensor, do you still get the yellow warning light on ??

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