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jlove · Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:23 PM

The JCW section of the price list shows JCW 16" Drilled Front Discs for Cooper S Standard Brake. It seems only to be available for the R56 MCS.

Does anyone have any information or opinion on this, which I presume is a dealer-fit option.

In my '04 Cooper on OE, I have experienced brake fade a few times, certainly when working it hard on mountain roads.

MINIAC · Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:34 PM

The front brakes used on the 2nd Gen MCS are the same brakes as in the JCW Brake Kit for the 1st Gen MINI.

You won't be able to fit JCW brakes with the R82 wheels on your MINI.

roland2003 · Dec 7th, 2006, 11:22 AM

....I thought they were, thanks for confirming. That also confirms that our GTT /Porsche brake kit should go straight on too

Best Regards Roland GTT

Lucky Dave · Dec 7th, 2006, 11:50 AM

Just remember the bolts are a bigger thread M14 lust like the french cars!!

roland2003 · Dec 7th, 2006, 12:46 PM

Fair point Dave, we're OK on that score ,our GTT/Porsche kit has 14.7mm holes in the Alloy Bell.
Best Regards Roland GTT

wo53 rks · Dec 7th, 2006, 04:58 PM

So will the "NEW" standard brake set up go straight on to the R53?? As said above it is basically the old JCW set up,but does it have different brackets???
As it doesnt carry a little JCW sticker i bet it doesnt carry the same price tag and could be a worthwhile upgrade.

CC07ERS · Dec 8th, 2006, 07:25 AM

the saleman told me yesterday that it was a dealer fit for £320 drilled & vented with different pads

jlove · Dec 9th, 2006, 10:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original)

the saleman told me yesterday that it was a dealer fit for £320 drilled & vented with different pads

Thanks. The Price List show them as GBP79.95, so I presume the additional GBP240 is to fit them!!! Maybe it will be worth waiting until the car is run in and needs new pads (although I'm on 85k with my Cooper on the same pads...).

Let me rephrase my original question:

Is it worth getting these fitted? I'm about to order a new MCS.

steeve · Dec 14th, 2006, 11:36 AM

Is this an easy fit, its not usually difficult to fit new discs.
Also any one know if the JCW caliper stickers are available?

steeve · Dec 14th, 2006, 11:39 AM

With larger brake discs and callipers at the front and special brake linings on the rear axle, this first-class braking system always provides immediate response with plenty of bite. Available for the new MINI Cooper and the new MINI Cooper S, (Wheel restrictions apply).

This is straight of the Mini web site, it says bigger calipers and bigger discs.....

msh441 · Dec 16th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jlove (original)

Is it worth getting these fitted? I'm about to order a new MCS.

NO!!!

Buy the parts, spend the extra money on a service manual and do it yourself!

Replacing rotors (the disc potion) on a disc braked car is one of the easiest DIY jobs out there. Replacing pads isn't much tougher. If you have a jack, stand, lug nut wrench and a small selection of other sockets (or metric wrenches) this is an EASY job. MAYBE 15-20 minutes per wheel for the fist-timer.

msh441 · Dec 16th, 2006, 10:30 PM

...oh, and not to mention the satisfaction you'll get from learning how to do it yourself from now on.

steeve · Dec 19th, 2006, 05:58 AM

But are the JCW brakes just big discs or is it different calipers as well? Does any one know?

rec · Dec 19th, 2006, 07:09 AM

well, going by the fact that the item states it as just discs, i'd presume it was just discs.

and you certainly wont get calipers, pads and discs for 80 quid !

GTT 280 · Dec 19th, 2006, 08:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

well, going by the fact that the item states it as just discs, i'd presume it was just discs.

and you certainly wont get calipers, pads and discs for 80 quid !

Would you consider an AP kit?

Cheers,
K.

hein · Feb 14th, 2007, 07:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by steeve (original)

But are the JCW brakes just big discs or is it different calipers as well? Does any one know?

ordered the JCW drilled disks today, partnumber : 34116777826, you don't need special calipers, the R56 MCS has already the R53 JCW brake kit from factory, price in holland is 102 euro's excl vat each

Fabio · Feb 14th, 2007, 07:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hein (original)

ordered the JCW drilled disks today, partnumber : 34116777826, you don't need special calipers, the R56 MCS has already the R53 JCW brake kit from factory, price in holland is 102 euro's excl vat each

Can they be fitted to the GP??

hein · Feb 14th, 2007, 08:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio (original)

Can they be fitted to the GP??

they will fit the GP too, the R56 MCS front disks, has the same partnumber as the front disks of the GP, so the r56 JCW drilled disks will fit too on the GP

Fabio · Feb 14th, 2007, 08:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hein (original)

they will fit the GP too, the R56 MCS front disks, has the same partnumber as the front disks of the GP, so the r56 JCW drilled disks will fit too on the GP

gonna order some tomorrow

Olly. · Feb 14th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hein (original)

ordered the JCW drilled disks today, partnumber : 34116777826, you don't need special calipers, the R56 MCS has already the R53 JCW brake kit from factory, price in holland is 102 euro's excl vat each

Be interested to hear your thoughts on these. A couple of pics would be good as well

Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:23 PM	#1
jlove 3 JWL Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salisbury Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 56 Offline	JCW 16" Drilled Front Discs The JCW section of the price list shows JCW 16" Drilled Front Discs for Cooper S Standard Brake. It seems only to be available for the R56 MCS. Does anyone have any information or opinion on this, which I presume is a dealer-fit option. In my '04 Cooper on OE, I have experienced brake fade a few times, certainly when working it hard on mountain roads.

Dec 7th, 2006, 11:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 2,731 Offline	....I thought they were, thanks for confirming. That also confirms that our GTT /Porsche brake kit should go straight on too Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

Dec 7th, 2006, 11:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lucky Dave Thinking Minis My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2005 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 705 Offline	Just remember the bolts are a bigger thread M14 lust like the french cars!! Lucky is a way of life (tm) 243.5 bhp & 205.3 ft lb

Dec 7th, 2006, 12:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 2,731 Offline	Fair point Dave, we're OK on that score ,our GTT/Porsche kit has 14.7mm holes in the Alloy Bell. Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

Dec 7th, 2006, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
wo53 rks MINIMAD My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Location: south wales Local Time: 03:06 AM Posts: 253 Offline	So will the "NEW" standard brake set up go straight on to the R53?? As said above it is basically the old JCW set up,but does it have different brackets??? As it doesnt carry a little JCW sticker i bet it doesnt carry the same price tag and could be a worthwhile upgrade. Taking care of business

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Dec 3rd, 2006, 11:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 08:06 PM Posts: 8,307 Offline	The front brakes used on the 2nd Gen MCS are the same brakes as in the JCW Brake Kit for the 1st Gen MINI. You won't be able to fit JCW brakes with the R82 wheels on your MINI.

Dec 8th, 2006, 07:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 2,721 Offline	the saleman told me yesterday that it was a dealer fit for £320 drilled & vented with different pads

Dec 9th, 2006, 10:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
jlove 3 JWL Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salisbury Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 56 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original) the saleman told me yesterday that it was a dealer fit for £320 drilled & vented with different pads Thanks. The Price List show them as GBP79.95, so I presume the additional GBP240 is to fit them!!! Maybe it will be worth waiting until the car is run in and needs new pads (although I'm on 85k with my Cooper on the same pads...). Let me rephrase my original question: Is it worth getting these fitted? I'm about to order a new MCS.

Dec 14th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
steeve Steeve My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Far Corfe Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 275 Offline	Is this an easy fit, its not usually difficult to fit new discs. Also any one know if the JCW caliper stickers are available?

Dec 14th, 2006, 11:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
steeve Steeve My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Far Corfe Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 275 Offline	With larger brake discs and callipers at the front and special brake linings on the rear axle, this first-class braking system always provides immediate response with plenty of bite. Available for the new MINI Cooper and the new MINI Cooper S, (Wheel restrictions apply). This is straight of the Mini web site, it says bigger calipers and bigger discs.....

Dec 16th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
msh441 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pacific NW Local Time: 08:06 PM Posts: 439 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jlove (original) Is it worth getting these fitted? I'm about to order a new MCS. NO!!! Buy the parts, spend the extra money on a service manual and do it yourself! Replacing rotors (the disc potion) on a disc braked car is one of the easiest DIY jobs out there. Replacing pads isn't much tougher. If you have a jack, stand, lug nut wrench and a small selection of other sockets (or metric wrenches) this is an EASY job. MAYBE 15-20 minutes per wheel for the fist-timer.

Dec 16th, 2006, 10:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
msh441 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pacific NW Local Time: 08:06 PM Posts: 439 Offline	...oh, and not to mention the satisfaction you'll get from learning how to do it yourself from now on.

Dec 19th, 2006, 05:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
steeve Steeve My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Far Corfe Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 275 Offline	But are the JCW brakes just big discs or is it different calipers as well? Does any one know?

Dec 19th, 2006, 07:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 1,217 Offline	well, going by the fact that the item states it as just discs, i'd presume it was just discs. and you certainly wont get calipers, pads and discs for 80 quid ! Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Dec 19th, 2006, 08:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
GTT 280 The Power Cube My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2002 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 2,471 Offline	AP Racing BBK Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original) well, going by the fact that the item states it as just discs, i'd presume it was just discs. and you certainly wont get calipers, pads and discs for 80 quid ! Would you consider an AP kit? Cheers, K. Too many mods to list, PM me if the cat needs killing...

Feb 14th, 2007, 07:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
hein MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sliedrecht Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 145 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by steeve (original) But are the JCW brakes just big discs or is it different calipers as well? Does any one know? ordered the JCW drilled disks today, partnumber : 34116777826, you don't need special calipers, the R56 MCS has already the R53 JCW brake kit from factory, price in holland is 102 euro's excl vat each

Feb 14th, 2007, 07:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Fabio F43i0 My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 3,833 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hein (original) ordered the JCW drilled disks today, partnumber : 34116777826, you don't need special calipers, the R56 MCS has already the R53 JCW brake kit from factory, price in holland is 102 euro's excl vat each Can they be fitted to the GP?? bebo

Feb 14th, 2007, 08:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
hein MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sliedrecht Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 145 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Fabio (original) Can they be fitted to the GP?? they will fit the GP too, the R56 MCS front disks, has the same partnumber as the front disks of the GP, so the r56 JCW drilled disks will fit too on the GP

Feb 14th, 2007, 08:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Fabio F43i0 My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 3,833 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hein (original) they will fit the GP too, the R56 MCS front disks, has the same partnumber as the front disks of the GP, so the r56 JCW drilled disks will fit too on the GP gonna order some tomorrow bebo

Feb 14th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 04:06 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hein (original) ordered the JCW drilled disks today, partnumber : 34116777826, you don't need special calipers, the R56 MCS has already the R53 JCW brake kit from factory, price in holland is 102 euro's excl vat each Be interested to hear your thoughts on these. A couple of pics would be good as well

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